[windycityfan]

This team doesn’t do anything particularly well, except the long pass to the wingers that do nothing with it. Without ever controlling the ball through a progressing midfield, I don’t see how this system is sustainable. It’s not like we’ve got good goal scorers to put away the rare chances we get.

Either Mount plays more in the Eriksen mold, alongside Casemiro, or get Amrabat and sit Mount behind Bruno. Put Rashford back where he belongs, and start Martial, Sancho or Hojlund as 9. As for Antony, I’m at a loss as to what to do with him except try a different player.

‘Back to basics ETH- you waste preseason on a round peg square hole system, and your players are out of sync and out of clues.

 

[zakmanutd]

rashford is a joke get him out the club

 

[Rightnr]

I saw Spurs hit the woodwork twice and have 2 more sitters in the 1st half but tame finishes. Must have been the first 15 mins

Does that include the Son mishit off a cross. Because that could easily been much worse, much earlier.

 

[mitChley]

rashford is a joke get him out the club

First post, starting off strong

 

[r0663664]

The only positive thing is Glazers might decide it is time to sell. Let's get it done today and 300 million funds made available immediately to ETH to buy. Maybe we can get a injury free striker, a 2 footer RW, one MF that can actually pass and dribble.

 

[Big Ben Foster]

The only positive thing is Glazers might decide it is time to sell. Let's get it done today and 300 million funds made available immediately to ETH to buy. Maybe we can get a injury free striker, a 2 footer RW, one MF that can actually pass and dribble.

Need to sell first, we're severely constrained by FFP / FSR.

And the last thing I would want to do is give the manager another blank check (regardless of whether it's ETH or someone else). That approach is how we got into this mess in the first place.

 

[Hugh Jass]

rashford is a joke get him out the club

Not a good start for you.

 

[Cantonagotmehere]

The only positive thing is Glazers might decide it is time to sell. Let's get it done today and 300 million funds made available immediately to ETH to buy. Maybe we can get a injury free striker, a 2 footer RW, one MF that can actually pass and dribble.

Yep mate, if they don't sell it sure feels like Roy Keane is right, we will become Spurs.

 

[NewGlory]

I see the side we struggled against at home and scraped a 1-0 got stuffed at home by Brighton.

You mean the same Brighton that beat us last three times we played them in EPL?

 

[tentan]

Pathetic and spineless once more

 

[Stacks]

Does that include the Son mishit off a cross. Because that could easily been much worse, much earlier.

nah. I started watching about 13-15 mins in so I saw a different game

 

[Woziak]

You mean the same Brighton that beat us last three times we played them in EPL?

Brighton for me are dead certs for top 6 unless they lose the second best manager in the EPL, I could easily see new owners quickly becoming frustrated with ETH and his stubbornness ?

 

[Stacks]

I see the side we struggled against at home and scraped a 1-0 got stuffed at home by Brighton.

Talking like Brighton don't cause us a lot of problems. pretty good side. Their players seem to going for decent money too

 

[Gazautd18]

I know I'm not the only one thinking we ain't going on another run like we did after bad start to last season?
Mount is not working in this system.
Garnacho Antony Rashford and Bruno, the less said the better.
Casemeiro looked jaded and as soon as the back 4 got pressured panic set in.
As many have said, what De Zerbi is doing at Brighton compared to the shitshow going on here is telling.

 

[Hauxi]

rashford is a joke get him out the club

You'll fit right in here...

 

[Big Ben Foster]

I know I'm not the only one thinking we ain't going on another run like we did after bad start to last season?
Mount is not working in this system.
Garnacho Antony Rashford and Bruno, the less said the better.
Casemeiro looked jaded and as soon as the back 4 got pressured panic set in.
As many have said, what De Zerbi is doing at Brighton compared to the shitshow going on here is telling.

De Zerbi is at arguably the best-run club in Europe, with the best possible supporting structure around him. If he joined us, he would struggle as all our managers post-SAF have.

 

[UnofficialDevil]

Good thing Harry Kane wasn't playing.

 

[UnrelatedPsuedo]

De Zerbi is at arguably the best-run club in Europe, with the best possible supporting structure around him. If he joined us, he would struggle as all our managers post-SAF have.

Aye. We’d do better to sign Brightons entire management and scouting structure than their manager. It’s ridiculous.

 

[McTerminator]

De Zerbi is at arguably the best-run club in Europe, with the best possible supporting structure around him. If he joined us, he would struggle as all our managers post-SAF have.

100%

At this point it should be obvious that the number one thing wrong with the club is the Glazers.

So many different debates about players, managers and other factors over the years, but the two constants are the Glazers and perpetual Failure.

Look at the teams doing well right now, Brighton, Brentford, City, Newcastle… the owners aren’t reminiscent of bono the clown’s less attractive cousin! Even Leicester seemed to experience most of their success before their owner sadly passed.

Owners make or break clubs and ours are the worst of the worst. No amount of money spent can change that.

Nothing will ever change while the Glazers are still at the club. Glazers Out

 

[Sky1981]

The only positive thing is Glazers might decide it is time to sell. Let's get it done today and 300 million funds made available immediately to ETH to buy. Maybe we can get a injury free striker, a 2 footer RW, one MF that can actually pass and dribble.

We need 500M to win the league. But 400M and 1 year should be more than enough to get some coherent play style.

At this rate giving him another billion wont solve the big problem. I dont believe our squad is so bad we cant ping 3 pass without resorting to long balls

To be fair to ETH all post Fergie managers seems to be reduced to a clown after 2 years managing us I dont know what's wrong with us. Maybe it's a curse

 

[NinjaZombie]

It's just so predictable. We played well in the first half and should have been 3-0 at half time. Shocking misses by Antony and Fernandes and the usual corruption by Oliver and Pawson in not awarding a blatant penalty for handball. But, as usual, we fail to kill a game off when on top and then collapsed in the second half. A few players need to be dropped. Play a front three of Pellistri - Hojlund - Amad when all three are fit.

I'm sick of Sancho being a timid waster, Rashford sulking and acting like putting an effort is beneath him. My patience with Antony has run out as well. The most inefficient footballer I've ever seen.

 

[croadyman]

We need 500M to win the league. But 400M and 1 year should be more than enough to get some coherent play style.

At this rate giving him another billion wont solve the big problem. I dont believe our squad is so bad we cant ping 3 pass without resorting to long balls

To be fair to ETH all post Fergie managers seems to be reduced to a clown after 2 years managing us I dont know what's wrong with us. Maybe it's a curse

£400m should have been enough,however he didn't help his cause by wasting around £145m on a winger who can't beat a player,lacks pace and too lazy to use right foot and a 10 who has Chelsea laughing all the way to the bank

 

[NewGlory]

Brighton for me are dead certs for top 6 unless they lose the second best manager in the EPL, I could easily see new owners quickly becoming frustrated with ETH and his stubbornness ?

Only time will tell whether ETH is stubborn or thoughtful. Clearly he is implementing a new system. That always takes time, so he may be sticking with the same players because changing players around in the middle of the transformation will only delay said transformation. Or that may be his take on the situation. We know he is not sentimental and never shy to bench anybody.

The question is - why are our forwards missing chances they should be seizing? There is no direct causation between us adapting to a new system and Bruno, Rashford, etc. being unable to hit the target. We would still be shaky, because of the transformation, but if our forwards were firing goals on chances we do create, mood would be very different.

 

[r0663664]

I hope ETH learns something soon. English football is physical and fast. Antony is a failed project, he is just unsuitable for PL. He might be successful elsewhere but not here. As soon as he realise this, he would improve this team alot. I am starting to think Poch should have been hired. 1 thing for sure, he won't buy Antony and Casemiro. If ETH doesn't win the next game, he will be under alot of pressure. United won't sack him as there is no manager available to take on this lot. We would like finish near Brighton and Spurs, that's mean bye bye top 4.

 

[Levi1]

Much better than the first game, especially the first half. Mount played very well too. Then it all fell apart. I don't know why, though I did expect it. Hard to say if the manager was out thought on tactics or whether the players buckled.

Couldn't believe that we started with the same 11, but wouldn't be as upset if we keep the same midfield next game, but what's clear is that Anthony needs to be dropped and that the players need to practice heading.

Some good signs of progress for sure. Would be nice if we could make quicker progress for once. Any potential title run is now out the door unless Hojlund hits the ground running.

 

[meamth]

Same old kryptonite of United post Fergie.

Couldn't finish chances. I swear if City players got those chances they buried it. Doesn't matter who it is, Nathan Ake would've finish those chances.

 

[croadyman]

I hope ETH learns something soon. English football is physical and fast. Antony is a failed project, he is just unsuitable for PL. He might be successful elsewhere but not here. As soon as he realise this, he would improve this team alot. I am starting to think Poch should have been hired. 1 thing for sure, he won't buy Antony and Casemiro. If ETH doesn't win the next game, he will be under alot of pressure. United won't sack him as there is no manager available to take on this lot. We would like finish near Brighton and Spurs, that's mean bye bye top 4.

Yeah there definitely needs to be more focus on signing mobile players who are both quick and physical. Failure to do this will see us constantly bullied in the majority of games

 

[Velvet Revolver]

We seem like a team that is carrying fatigue from last season. Everyone is slow on their feet and brain!

 

[fallengt]

Second goal is embarassing, own goal or not. It's like United knew they wouldn't never win so defense just go "feck it" mode

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

I think you are being very hard on yourself, first half the game was very open, second half you looked very tired and our midfield 2 just had more energy. I have no idea why you signed Mount though he is just so average. You lack a box to box midfielder.

 

[Melvin Udall]

rashford is a joke get him out the club

This is an awful take, but Rashford really isn’t very good as a center forward. Playing him there instead of left wing is a terrible idea, regardless of what other options are available at center forward.

 

[fallengt]

You mean the same Brighton that beat us last three times we played them in EPL?

Technically not the same. Sold their best players and got new manager ( who is even better than Potter )

 

[croadyman]

I think you are being very hard on yourself, first half the game was very open, second half you looked very tired and our midfield 2 just had more energy. I have no idea why you signed Mount though he is just so average. You lack a box to box midfielder.

We also lack someone who has that control

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

We also lack someone who has that control

Why is Eriksen not starting?

 

[croadyman]

Why is Eriksen not starting?

Hasn't got the legs in these big 6 games,also been affected by that injury suffered last season

 

[NoPace]

I think you are being very hard on yourself, first half the game was very open, second half you looked very tired and our midfield 2 just had more energy. I have no idea why you signed Mount though he is just so average. You lack a box to box midfielder.

I dunno, we were shocking for the first few minutes of the 2nd half and that shouldn't really be fitness-based. Seemed more like Ten Hag man marking Spurs to start worked well and then Ange came out with tweaks in the 2nd half because it didn't seem like the matchups were as clear (though I didn't watch the match super closely in a tactical nerd way as I often do, but with my GF like a normal person); I didn't notice Bruno tight on Bissouma (or handing him off to Rashford like in the first few minutes which seemed very clearly ordered by Ten Hag) or Casemiro following Maddison everywhere like in the first half.

First half was fine, coulda gone either way, but we looked devoid of ideas in possession and the same was true last week until Bruno made a great pass. Rashford will play better as an LW, but Mount, Antony, Garnacho (obviously he should improve over time at his age) and Sancho may just not be up to it.

If we have the same GD as last year we won't finish in the top 5 and right now our midfield looks a fair bit worse than the Bruno-Eriksen-Casemiro trio was last year when healthy. Enjoying Onana though, and the strikers can't be any worse than last year overall, so yeah I'm worried already.

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

Hasn't got the legs in these big 6 games,also been affected by that injury last year

I haven’t seen enough of him with United, he used to be a controller of a game but you would know better than me, for me Mount is one of those players that you really don’t know what his position is. The same as Deli Ali when we had him. You need to build the team around him to get the best out of him.

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

I dunno, we were shocking for the first few minutes of the 2nd half and that shouldn't really be fitness-based. Seemed more like Ten Hag man marking Spurs to start worked well and then Ange came out with tweaks in the 2nd half because it didn't seem like the matchups were as clear (though I didn't watch the match super closely in a tactical nerd way as I often do, but with my GF like a normal person); I didn't notice Bruno tight on Bissouma (or handing him off to Rashford like in the first few minutes which seemed very clearly ordered by Ten Hag) or Casemiro following Maddison everywhere like in the first half.

First half was fine, coulda gone either way, but we looked devoid of ideas in possession and the same was true last week until Bruno made a great pass. Rashford will play better as an LW, but Mount, Antony, Garnacho (obviously he should improve over time at his age) and Sancho may just not be up to it.

If we have the same GD as last year we won't finish in the top 5 and right now our midfield looks a fair bit worse than the Bruno-Eriksen-Casemiro trio was last year when healthy. Enjoying Onana though, and the strikers can't be any worse than last year overall, so yeah I'm worried already.

Good post, it’s funny hearing another fans perspective, I watched the game and for the first 20-30mins I was panicking, you were the better side. If Rashford or Bruno had scored, basic sitters, you would have went on to win, we both lack an out and out striker. Hopefully we get one in before the window closes.

 

[OleTheGreat]

Rubbish!

 

[croadyman]

Good post, it’s funny hearing another fans perspective, I watched the game and for the first 20-30mins I was panicking, you were the better side. If Rashford or Bruno had scored, basic sitters, you would have went on to win, we both lack an out and out striker. Hopefully we get one in before the window closes.

Fancy you to get Gift Orban over us mainly because you actually have the money to sign him