Praising Ole for buying expensive players

[InspiRED]

This isn’t a thread to bash Ole. For the record I’m not black and white on Ole as think he’s done some good things as manager although ultimately I don’t think he’s a good enough manager for us.

One of those things he shouldn’t get so much praise for is buying expensive players though, which is coming up now after fernandes coup and also came up a lot after summer with Maguire and AWB.

Seriously, what kind of dumbass sees someone spend £50 million on a house and concludes ‘ooh that’s a really good house you’ve got there, you must be really good at buying houses’ Instead of ‘that is indeed a fine house, probably because it cost £50 million.‘

Spending a fortune on decent players is something literally any football manager could do if they had funds available. The idea it’s somehow a skill to wind up with fernandes with a £50 million outlay instead of some journeyman from the conference is quite baffling.

 

[MikeKing]

Seriously, what kind of dumbass sees

Not enough to create a thread about it. Seriously, I agree but I think everyone does. Nobody is singing Ole's praises at the moment. Some of the signings being done is promising, nothing more nothing less.

 

[Tarrou]

we've been spending a fortune on complete garbage since Fergie so it can't be that easy

 

[meamth]

Oh you want a fine house, that is it man, you can't get any of the players he bought cheaper.

You want cheaper players? Maybe we should be like Sheffield, Watford, Southampton..

Would you rather see Maguire marauding with Laporte on his side?

 

[The Boy]

To be fair at United’s level 50 million is not an expensive player anymore

 

[ChaddyP]

I thought ole just asked for the players and Matt Judge is the one who negotiates the Fee.

 

[Sky1981]

It's ole. Anything he does is a good credit. If it's bad it's ed.

Ole has to be twice as bad as any other names. And only has to do half as good as any other names.

Because he's ole gunnar solksjaer, the man who scores our winning goal in nou camp 20 years ago

 

[MikeKing]

It's ole. Anything he does is a good credit. If it's bad it's ed.

Ole has to be twice as bad as any other names. And only has to do half as good as any other names.

Because he's ole gunnar solksjaer, the man who scores our winning goal in nou camp 20 years ago

That sort of hyperbole doesn't serve anyone mister.

 

[sourdough satellite]

Ole doesn't decide how much to spend on players, that's Ed Woodward and Matt Judge.

 

[Acheron]

Regardless of how much a player costs criticism should be about developing players and identifying key targets that fit a certain style or system.

 

[Mark Pawelek]

Buying expensive players is the safe option. It was Mourinho who spent £40m on Matic, £52m on Fred and £90m on Pogba, £75m on Lukaku.

 

[InspiRED]

Oh you want a fine house, that is it man, you can't get any of the players he bought cheaper.

You want cheaper players? Maybe we should be like Sheffield, Watford, Southampton..

Would you rather see Maguire marauding with Laporte on his side?

I’m all for maguire and Laporte. Saying you can’t give Ole too much credit for spending £80 million on a player and then they’re good. That doesn’t bring a manager toomuch credit when they turn out to be decent. Yeah of course they’re decent, thats why the selling club demanded £80m.

Lots of good things Ole has done. Young players done well under him. Decent team morale. Cleared out (some!) players that really needed to go. But people should stop counting Buying £50m and £80m players being decent among these reasons.

 

[Varun]

1. It's amazing that United fans can still believe big money = quality given the amount we've spent since Sir Alex vs the quality it has got us.

2. It's amazing that any fan can think that the manager negotiates the price.

 

[Mark Pawelek]

To be fair at United’s level 50 million is not an expensive player anymore

It's still expensive. Youri Tielemans, at £40m looks like Leicester City's most expensive player. They are 14 points ahead of us, and won the League in 2015-16.

​	Million (£)​	From :​
James Maddison​	22.5​	, Norwich, Championship​
Ricardo Pereira​	19.8​	, FC Porto, Liga NOS​
Caglar Söyüncü​	18.99​	, SC Freiburg, Bundesliga​
Wilfred Ndidi​	15.84​	, KRC Genk, Jupiler Pro League​
Harry Maguire​	12.33​	, Hull City, Championship​
N'Golo Kanté​	8.1​	, SM Caen, France Ligue 1​
Jamie Vardy​	1.12​	, Fleetwood Town, League 2​
Riyad Mahrez​	0.45​	, AC Le Havre, France Ligue 2​
​	​	​
Total:​	99.13​	​

Jon Rudkin is Leicester City's Director of Football, as well as Academy Director. Rudkin was appointed the Academy Manager at Leicester City in June 2003. On 14 December 2014, Rudkin replaced the outgoing Terry Robinson as director of football.

 

[InspiRED]

1. It's amazing that United fans can still believe big money = quality given the amount we've spent since Sir Alex vs the quality it has got us.

2. It's amazing that any fan can think that the manager negotiates the price.

Well I don’t think anyone in their right minds could have expected Sanchez to flop the way he did. When we bought him he was probably best player in the league for a couple of seasons and worth every penny of £50m

 

[Varun]

Well I don’t think anyone in their right minds could have expected Sanchez to flop the way he did. When we bought him he was probably best player in the league for a couple of seasons and worth every penny of £50m

So you agree that money doesn't always translate to quality? He's not the only one either mind, we've spent a feck tonne on others.

On a related note, why do you think there's universal praise for Ole regarding this? A casual glance at the 2 threads would tell you that the jury is well and truly out on both Maguire and AWB.

 

[InspiRED]

So you agree that money doesn't always translate to quality? He's not the only one either mind, we've spent a feck tonne on others.

On a related note, why do you think there's universal praise for Ole regarding this? A casual glance at the 2 threads would tell you that the jury is well and truly out on both Maguire and AWB.

Maybe doesn’t always lead to quality but it’s going to be a struggle to make the argument there isn’t a very direct correlating relationship between price and quality....

On your second point, the tides turning now, but mostly everyone was very happy with AWB and maguire in first few months.
I personally think they’re on a hiding to nothing, because lack of a well drilled passing game (despite some evidence of mild improvement), is leading to them being often exposed in matches. Added to pressure of playing for Man Utd and repeated over the course of a season, it’d wear anyone down eventually. Doesn’t mean they’re bad players, means they are not thriving in the system they are in.

 

[M Bison]

It's still expensive. Youri Tielemans, at £40m looks like Leicester City's most expensive player. They are 14 points ahead of us, and won the League in 2015-16.

​	Million (£)​	From :​
James Maddison​	22.5​	, Norwich, Championship​
Ricardo Pereira​	19.8​	, FC Porto, Liga NOS​
Caglar Söyüncü​	18.99​	, SC Freiburg, Bundesliga​
Wilfred Ndidi​	15.84​	, KRC Genk, Jupiler Pro League​
Harry Maguire​	12.33​	, Hull City, Championship​
N'Golo Kanté​	8.1​	, SM Caen, France Ligue 1​
Jamie Vardy​	1.12​	, Fleetwood Town, League 2​
Riyad Mahrez​	0.45​	, AC Le Havre, France Ligue 2​
​	​	​
Total:​	99.13​	​

Jon Rudkin is Leicester City's Director of Football, as well as Academy Director. Rudkin was appointed the Academy Manager at Leicester City in June 2003. On 14 December 2014, Rudkin replaced the outgoing Terry Robinson as director of football.

Never seen that before, bloody good business that, hats off to Leicester for their transfer dealings. The increases in the values of those players is phenomenal, Ndidi id personally break the bank for.

A large part is coaching though too I suppose, no guarantees people progress and develop but good work all round from Leicester

 

[Web of Bissaka]

Ole decided the high prices?

 

[Champ]

Ole doesn't broker the deals.
He merely picks a list of players he'd like.
He doesn't conclude the price.

 

[Hambley]

Better recruitment under Ole is nothing but a myth. We spend much money on players who have great stats and which look good by far (though not all the time). Does it ring a bell? How do we know they really want to play for us? Because Ole told that. Do we know if they go on like that next seasons? Ole said they would. No secret out transfer politics has to do nothing with manager, so that comes we sell and buy the ones who the board and Woodward want. I'm even not sure whether Ole did wanted all these 4 players and whether they all were his 1st choice. We bought promising and top players earlier and almost many of them finally failed or turned down to mediocrity after the 1st season which makes me think it's as minimum before time to make this conclusion.

 

[Adam-Utd]

It's still expensive. Youri Tielemans, at £40m looks like Leicester City's most expensive player. They are 14 points ahead of us, and won the League in 2015-16.

​	Million (£)​	From :​
James Maddison​	22.5​	, Norwich, Championship​
Ricardo Pereira​	19.8​	, FC Porto, Liga NOS​
Caglar Söyüncü​	18.99​	, SC Freiburg, Bundesliga​
Wilfred Ndidi​	15.84​	, KRC Genk, Jupiler Pro League​
Harry Maguire​	12.33​	, Hull City, Championship​
N'Golo Kanté​	8.1​	, SM Caen, France Ligue 1​
Jamie Vardy​	1.12​	, Fleetwood Town, League 2​
Riyad Mahrez​	0.45​	, AC Le Havre, France Ligue 2​
​	​	​
Total:​	99.13​	​

Jon Rudkin is Leicester City's Director of Football, as well as Academy Director. Rudkin was appointed the Academy Manager at Leicester City in June 2003. On 14 December 2014, Rudkin replaced the outgoing Terry Robinson as director of football.

While he's clearly done an amazing job - those prices would be doubled if it was United for a start, but people like Kante/Mahrez/Ndidi/Vardy we'd never take a chance at.