Last season there issue was there defense so far that has been decent this season outside the Leicester game, but now there offense has gone down there last 5 PL gamesCity are 18 goals worse off after 7 games than last season
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Last season there issue was there defense so far that has been decent this season outside the Leicester game, but now there offense has gone down there last 5 PL gamesCity are 18 goals worse off after 7 games than last season
FixedI'm sureGundoganKDB had a huge bet on City not winning this game.
Wow! Terrible. With KdB and Sterling both off the boil they look a bit toothless.Last season there issue was there defense so far that has been decent this season outside the Leicester game, but now there offense has gone down there last 5 PL games
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I think the point is to sew doubt in the refs mind about the decision so that he either feels bad about giving the decision or make him feel wrong, and he’ll give a decision to the complaining team to make up for itDo players still think those way over the top reactions to having the ref call a foul on you will change the refs mind? You clearly fouled a player, the ref calls a foul and you put in a high school level performance of shock and dismay over the idea that the ref could possibly call it a foul. It's like watching 3 year olds lying to their parents thinking they're in any way clever about it.
If we win our game in hand we're only 3 points off top 4, look at it that way, it makes it easier to swallow. Last season was our worst ever start I believe.So, even if we win our next game there is no guarantee we will be out of the bottom half. Outrageous league position after 7 games. Don't know about you guys, but I don't remember we fail this low ever. Is this our worst start in last 20 years?
I said a few games back that too much goes through Sterling imo.Last season there issue was there defense so far that has been decent this season outside the Leicester game, but now there offense has gone down there last 5 PL games
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Absolutely, we've been different since the Leicester trashing. I think Pep realized this is not the season for gung ho football and crazy pressing. The way you guys wilted last 20 minutes today shows just how tough the going is. You were phenomenal first half an hour, bullying us. Probably unlucky not to be ahead at half time even though we had the peno miss. 2nd half I think we controlled you guys and looked the more likely as you tired.Pretty much, a race of attrition and squad depth. City look far more defensive this season whether it’s intentional or not I have no idea.
I didn't say he was a bad striker or couldn't score. I said that he won't get the numbers that they need. Over the whole season, he won't score the 20+ league goals that Aguero scored. Plus, it's unfair on him to make him do it all by himself.He has 3 goals in 130 minutes this season....
Their football has gotten a bit stale...People on Bluemoon seem to have given up on Pep.
How many goals was Jesus supposed to score this game?That's insane. They badly need a stronger presence up front. Jesus won't get the numbers that they need.
Don't think that's the point to reverse the current challenge but you're rather trying to put doubt inside the head of the ref that if he's calling a foul and every time you're in complete shock he might doubt it the next time there's a close call and give it in your favor. Probably works in some degree on inexperienced refs but these refs just ignore it.Has there ever been any single instance where a Daniel-Day Lewis dramatic ever reversed a referees decision on the spot?
Neville talking nonsense. As usual. The first half wasn’t even exciting, yet he was trying to overhype it.Despite Neville wanking himself into a lather in the first half it descended into a low quality affair. Ped channelling his inner Mourinho.
Great game. Always enjoy the matchups between Pep and Klopp. Both teams started to respect each other the longer the game went.
City will be disappointed to not leave this with a win, should have put away the penalty. Thought their selection was perfect barring Gundogan, would have started B Silva instead. Their defense is much better now, they need to put more chances away in games like this.
Firmino... What's up with him? Liverpool miss Thiago (not that they've used him much but their final ball was lacking so many times especially from the flanks). Gomez and Matip did well in defense, the goal was more on TAA.
How was it not a foul/penalty on Sterling but a penalty on Mane?
Yeah I know, I just don't believe that a ref like that is affected by it at all. As I said, the reaction isn't believable from someone like Diaz. Poor acting is poor acting.I think the point is to sew doubt in the refs mind about the decision so that he either feels bad about giving the decision or make him feel wrong, and he’ll give a decision to the complaining team to make up for it
I'm not on about one game. I'm on about the whole season. Over the whole season, he won't get the numbers that they need, if we're to assume that he will be leading the line for the majority of the season.How many goals was Jesus supposed to score this game?
This is his first game back. City were playing without a striker for a month. Once he and Aguero are back, if City aren't scoring still then they have a problem.
Complete bullshitHe was arguably worse against Everton.
Hoho.It’s called the handball rule. I think it was implemented around 150 years ago but don’t quote me. I think the reason is because it’s called football
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Eh I think he's a very good player and will get goals in this team. Only time will tell. Regardless, he can't do it on his own, they need Aguero back.I'm not on about one game. I'm on about the whole season. Over the whole season, he won't get the numbers that they need, if we're to assume that he will be leading the line for the majority of the season.
I think it goes without saying that City should have invested in a new striker in the Summer window. I'm not sure how there can be an argument against that.
Er... Not sure how anyone not an idiot would interpret that post as me being up Guardiola (or Klopp)'s backside, but whatever works for you fantasy wise, I guess.
If ‘it‘ is disappearing so far up Guardiola‘s backside that you live in an alternative reality - then yes you’re the GOAT!
Would completely agree with that, this is our toughest away game of the season, always fascinating to watch. Either way I think we’ll both end up being the top 2 one way or another.Absolutely, we've been different since the Leicester trashing. I think Pep realized this is not the season for gung ho football and crazy pressing. The way you guys wilted last 20 minutes today shows just how tough the going is. You were phenomenal first half an hour, bullying us. Probably unlucky not to be ahead at half time even though we had the peno miss. 2nd half I think we controlled you guys and looked the more likely as you tired.
I don't think either team has much reason for concern. Had we won, worst case scenario you'd be a point behind (given we won the game in hand), draw means nothing. I think of all the results City couldn't afford to lose today. That would have made a big gap.
blumoon:People on Bluemoon seem to have given up on Pep.
Which imo is 100x better than his previous "we're too good to get beat so I'm not changing anything".
He's learning and that's a great sign.
Peps learning? For 20m a year I hoped he already knew what he is doing
I think he will, his goals per minute is pretty good. Of course he's no Aguero but he's never had a full season up top. At City he has 70 goals in 155 games. 42 in 103 in the premier league and a lot of those appearances are as a sub. I don't think he'll ever be a Kun standard striker but I think he'll bag 18 or so goals a season in the league playing a full season. I think midfield and left back are much bigger problems for us. Midfield in particular for us going forward (if Pep insists on Guno and Rodri)I didn't say he was a bad striker or couldn't score. I said that he won't get the numbers that they need. Over the whole season, he won't score the 20+ league goals that Aguero scored. Plus, it's unfair on him to make him do it all by himself.
Like thisDid Jesus just say "we have to attack like we have a gun in out pants"?
Liverpool are not the same force they were last season.City are not finishing second. Liverpool look favourites for the title but I don't agree with others that Chelsea and Spurs can't challenge, especially if the latter bin off the Europa. Anyone who thinks Pool will still walk it are dreaming.
That's hardly surprising considering the media is very much Liverpool-led.fecking hell, still crying about the man city penalty that missed anyway on sky sports.
It was more a penalty than half of them Liverpool get.
Every media outlet is in love with Liverpool and they can do no wrong.
Or it could have the reverse effect where the completely impartial referee feels irritated by one team's constant histrionics and therefore subconsciously gives favourable decisions to the other team in close calls.Don't think that's the point to reverse the current challenge but you're rather trying to put doubt inside the head of the ref that if he's calling a foul and every time you're in complete shock he might doubt it the next time there's a close call and give it in your favor. Probably works in some degree on inexperienced refs but these refs just ignore it.
Why?Good result for us.
We're closer to both of you than we would have been, and we hate the pair of you too.Why?