We just needed to beat Basaksehir and blew it. Frustrating. Still think we’ll qualify.
PSG and Leipzig - We’ll never get out of the group!
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Yeah that was moronic I thought chasing the game recklessly like that having this in mind. Doesn’t look good on Ole at all.
Bad decision by Ole to leave Fred on the pitch tonight, think we can all agree on that.
However, we played adecent game and the only people who should be embarrassed tonight are the clowns on this forum imploding and ranting about what a terrible useless manager Ole is.
you can argue that tonights bad decision is proof that Ole ultimately won’t last at United long term. However if you want to retain an ounce of credibility gain some perspective and make a balanced argument rather than these unhinges rants because we lost a game.
TLDR: if you want to spout vehement abuse about Ole on the forum for tonight’s poor decision not to sub Fred... grow up and learn to have an adult discussion.
However, we played adecent game and the only people who should be embarrassed tonight are the clowns on this forum imploding and ranting about what a terrible useless manager Ole is.
you can argue that tonights bad decision is proof that Ole ultimately won’t last at United long term. However if you want to retain an ounce of credibility gain some perspective and make a balanced argument rather than these unhinges rants because we lost a game.
TLDR: if you want to spout vehement abuse about Ole on the forum for tonight’s poor decision not to sub Fred... grow up and learn to have an adult discussion.
The feck up was in Instabul we should have never lost that one.
Still top, goal difference
There are many times I have known second in the group to get the better tie. Do we know who plays who yet?
I said the game in Turkey cost us qualification, doesn't matter what we did tonight it was always going to go PSG's way (they were never going to go out at the group stage)
Not a hope of us avoiding defeat in Germany
Not a hope of us avoiding defeat in Germany
Nah, think it was the right thing to do. We weren’t reckless. It happens. We couldn’t accept the 1-2 loss.
Yep. And this was always going to happen. I think we will lose in Germany after missing a boat load of chances.
Top striker must be priority. No excuses. We should have scored enough to bring this home as well.
Ole also bottled it when he did not substitute Fred. Very poor decision.
If we go through we'll have to play Dortmund, Bayern, or Barcelona
Even a draw and we'd still be in the same position
Better than being in the Europa league.
2 hopes - a win or a draw
Not if we win in Germany!!!
Ehhh I hate to say it but I remember saying after RP win against PSG that the group is open and anyone can pass.
We’d beat Dortmund so hopefully them
Imagine what that Bayern side could do to us
PSG is ahead of us now with that 3rd goal.
It's maddening. I'm pretty much convinced we're out because if we're 2-0 up with 10 minutes to go in Leipzig, we'll proceed to have three players sent off and score four own goals.
Losing tonight means we now need a result in Germany but the result does highlight a couple of things wrong at United. 1, a terrible back four. Lindelof, Maguire, Wan Bisaka and Telles might be good players but they don't make a good defence and definitely not one you can rely on. We looked at six and sevens for the first two goals and nobody seems to be in charge. 2. Ole doesn't protect his players or has a second game plan. It was obvious that PSG where targeting Fred in the first half and he was lucky not to be sent off in the 1st half, but Ole should have replaced him at halftime, we had Matic, Pogba and Van De Beek on the bench. Yes the second yellow was harsh but a good manager protecting his players would have taken Fred out of the firing line. Now we don't have him for the Leipzig game, so Ole is going to have to change tack.
Yeah, I meant we should had won that one. In a group as close as this one you can give yourself that kind of luxury.
feck me some fans are absolutely pathetic
Yes, but strangely, while we go into the final game in 1st, we can win and still drop to 2nd. That's because with a 3 way tie, goal difference is used. With a 2 way tie (if we beat Leipzig & PSG beat Instabul), head to head records are used. Sadly losing 1-3 instead of 1-2 tonight means PSG have the better head to head.
We're still in a decent position to go through though!
Still I'd take it over the Europa League.Imagine what that Bayern side could do to us
We always come up with the goods when under pressure and need to do so again! I have full faith we will.
We're not first. PSG are ahead of us thanks to their result today. The combined results of home and away matches determine who's first, not goal difference in CL.
PSG win their last game and they're guaranteed top spot no matter what.
The defeat in Istanbul will haunt us and bite our ass.
We will have a final to play against Leipzig. Not the picture I've imagined after our first 2 games.
Ah, yes, my mistake. Just need to concentrate on getting through with a result in Germany.
CL is about head to head first. PSG is top now.
Leipzig aren't that good without Werner. They need a win, Utd needs just a draw.
I'm not worried.
I'm not worried.
Yeah it's a similar situation with Shakhtar and Real Madrid isn't it
We are more than capable of beating any of them except Bayern. In fact I'd fancy us against the other two. The main problem is getting qualified which I'm worried about now.
Yes.
Dang. Now it's nervy as feck going to Germany when we have West Ham and City in between.
Would have been more comfortable in CL, to focus on the league if not for that game in Turkey.
This thread has aged like milk
If you’re in a “group of death” and you lose to the whipping boys you’re always going to be in big big trouble.
If you’re in a “group of death” and you lose to the whipping boys you’re always going to be in big big trouble.
I kinda wish we needed a win. It seems we play better going for it rather than trying to be conservative
Saying that, at 1-1 we didn't need to overcommit and could have played it safe by taking off the man on the yellow who goes into tackles and challenges
Saying that, at 1-1 we didn't need to overcommit and could have played it safe by taking off the man on the yellow who goes into tackles and challenges
Also isn't the fact that we are in a position to qualify outdoing most expectations here already? You can't look at the group and say we have no chance and then bitch and moan when it turns out we have a very real chance of qualifying. Either you accept we are shit or else you reassess how you view us as a team.
Dude. Don't put strain on our heart.
We don't need to win in our final game, especially with PSG likely wrap up the top spot...
Yeah bloody frustrating that City have the luxury of resting players before the derby and we don't but that's our own fault