Yes was surprised with them agreeing to be a co-host.Why are USA willing to share? They can more than hold it on their own.
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Bejing around 27 in July.. . Plus games likely to kick off very late to accommodate European viewing times
Probably because it increases the attractiveness of the bid to allow others to participate and allow an entire continent to be involved.Why are USA willing to share? They can more than hold it on their own.
Why not?Why are USA willing to share? They can more than hold it on their own.
What is the benefit to hosting it on your own really?
As long as FIFA arrange a co-hosted tournament properly, each of the USA, Canada and Mexico could play their first 4 or 5 games (assuming they get that far) in their respective countries.
It's also easier to travel from New York to Toronto than it is from New York to LA.
Agreed. Fifa should send a strong message that it has cleaned up shop and will not tolerate this sort of rampant corruption.
Would love to see Australia given hosting rights if they're taken away from Qatar.
I hope both of you are being sarcastic, because neither of that is likely to happen.
You think there won't be drunk fans... and you think the fans won't be seen as a huge terrorist target for whatever version of al-Qaeda or Isis around at the time...
In a country that is widely reported to be one of the main funders of as Donald trump may say radical Islamic terrorism.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar_and_state-sponsored_terrorism
I think your being naive if you think there isn't a very high possibility of something happening
Qatari nationals fund and harbour terrorist cells.
Is there terrorism in Qatar?
Won't watch one second of that tournament. Thankfully I've got other sporting interests to keep me busy during 30 days. The corruption part is bad enough, but what really ticks me off is moving it to December. FFS if it's too hot during the summer, then don't arrange it there at all! I don't remember Greenland applying to host a World Cup.
Denmark could, and have a game there. Heated stadium will be made this time.
Qatar undoubtedly supports and funds terrorists. Which ironically makes it one of safest places to avoid being targeted by terrorists.
I would be interested to see how they played that. I can't picture them being very eager to put any more light on the whole debacle in front of the courts with the human rights violations that have been highlighted.
No, and that's what makes me suspicious of the emirate countries. If you're a radical Muslim looking to lash out at western culture and values, where better to target than the plastic, consumer central, gaudy, blingy, cities like Dubai and Abu Dhabi. Muslim territory with the flagrant, materialistic westernised culture seeping out of every pore. It's right on the doorstep and a terrorist attack at say, a bar or club popular with tourists, businessmen and expats would score a huge bodycount of 'infidels'.
So why are there never even attempted attacks in these places?
I'm not saying these countries are directly behind terrorism, what I'm saying is they know who these people are and how to find them with the click of their fingers. And these terrorists know better than to cross them, because they know they'll be hunted down and dealt with quickly if they bring trouble to these countries.
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Was about to make this very point. You're probably just as likely to get attacked in Europe.
What's the plan for the stadium after the tournament. Decay I suppose.
I believe it's been designed to drop down to something like a 30k capacity venue (presumably music and / smaller sporting events)?
I would LOVE for it to be moved.
It's a fecking disgrace.
I won't even watch it if it goes ahead there.
It's a fecking disgrace.
I won't even watch it if it goes ahead there.
Terrorism is probably lower on the list of objectionable things about the WC going there. The fact that they are a country of 200,000 people who have feck all to do with football and bribed their way into getting the tournament, all the while compelling the rest of the world to disrupt their league and CL calendars to accommodate their corrupt self-esteem campaign of hosting an important global event is probably close to the top.
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I hope so. A concrete plan for new infrastructure and stadia after a tournament should be just as important when bidding for something like the WC.
And we get thoroughly pissed off with just the current international breaks, that’s going to be fecking garbage.
I was saying they'd retaliate if it's pulled away from them. Both financially and with attacks, it fits the narrative.
Other poster was talking about domestic terrorism in Qatar.
I was thinking attacks against the host nation that replaces them.
England would be great as well. Basically any previous host with the infrastructure already in place would be far better than Qatar.
When Blatter announced, didnt he say the decison was irrefutable and unchangeable?
Even if FIFA did manage to find a way out of its legal bind, surely the compensation demands would make such a decison impossible?
Even if FIFA did manage to find a way out of its legal bind, surely the compensation demands would make such a decison impossible?
Qatar shouldn't have never been awarded this world cup and nor should have been Russia in 2018. This smells of corruption and bribery to win votes in both the bids.
Since there was obvious corruption the Qataris should be made to take the loss since the entire bid was built and marketed atop a mountain of bribery.
Yeah, the problem now is that things are too far along IMO for FIFA to just take away the rights. They would've needed to do that a short time after the selection was made, before the developers actually started breaking ground. The situation is too complicated now to back out.Sure, here are the most recent photos.. http://stadiumdb.com/constructions/qat/al_bayt_stadium
And here is what it will look like when finished..
I think the tournament will happen as planned but FIFA should allow countries to just not compete for 2022 if they decide to, with assurance that there won't be any penalties. If a country decides to play in the qualifiers and then go to the tournament, they can go, and if they don't, then they don't, and that's fine.
I highly doubt the tournament will be in Qatar. It will probabaly go to the US who are willing to share it And it will be in summer.
The corruption was shared/led with FIFA.
Just because FIFA has new management does not exonerate them.
So I cant see how FIFA can implement what you suggest.
I live in Asia, I understand you "can" play football in 30C and humid conditions, just doesn't make for good football.
Also, are China allowed to bid for 2026 unless Qatar loses 2022?
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If there's supposed to be economic benefits to hosting it, surely it magnifies the benefits the more games any country gets?
I do realise that it's closer from NY to Toronto, but are they going to make it a East Coast WC?
It was done with individual members of FIFA who I'm guessing have all been sacked by now (if they haven't, they should be). Qatar's role is the bigger crime since it was they who initiated the process, and in so doing, prevented other countries who spent considerable sums in their own bids, from being successful. Therefore the Qataris should not only have the WC revoked, they should also eat any financial investment they made and should be publicly humiliated as having bribed their way to the winning bid. That way future countries who may think they can follow suit will be given a glimpse of what could happen if they cheat.
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This, letting Qatar keep it just makes a mockery of the whole process.
oh btw FIFA is supposed to be non-profit...except for those who run the organization and those who bribe them.
Perhaps you are morally correct, but I'd like how Qaters right to host the tournament can be legally revoked. As I said before it was stated that is would be legally impossible to revoke the bid, so I imagine the legal paperwork is watertight. Anyone ever seen it?
And so, practically speaking, which body or court is required to make such a decision and how long would such process take? Given the people and sensitivities involved, can one be certain this process would be immune from nefarious lobbying and influences? FIFA would also have to be punished, no matter that employee's involved no longer work there.
You will know better than me how massive can of worms it is, involving many very powerful people, whose interest far exceed the game of football, and so the politics involved are very complex and would trigger off another whole round of unintended consequences.