Is it legal to bribe?
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Not with US currency, or using a US institution, or bank, or corporation.
thats called lobbying.
Im quite certain that virtually every nation who has hosted the world cup made a similar mockery of the process.Cal? post: 21574010 said:
The legal basis for revoking it would be evidence that it was done via corruption and bribery, thereby defaming the credibility of football. Corruption and bribery are generally illegal in most developed legal systems so it shouldn't be that difficult to build a case against them. Fifa could also just take the bid away from them and give it to another nation then deal with the legal issues as they arise.
It will never be held in Qatar, nor should it be.
What will make it perfect is if Blatter is lynched as part of the opening ceremony in the US.
What will make it perfect is if Blatter is lynched as part of the opening ceremony in the US.
They could have the event around several axes:If there's supposed to be economic benefits to hosting it, surely it magnifies the benefits the more games any country gets?
I do realise that it's closer from NY to Toronto, but are they going to make it a East Coast WC?
NE: New York, Boston, Montreal, Toronto
West Coast: LA, the bay, Seattle, Vancouver
South: Houston, Dallas, Mexico City
Midwest: Indianapolis, Chicago, Detroit, Columbus
My guess would be Mexico City hosts whatever group Mexico is in same with Toronto/Montreal and Canada then Split a group between say New York City and Washington DC or even Boston. Then split a group between Seattle and Vancouver. Then Los Angeles and Miami.If there's supposed to be economic benefits to hosting it, surely it magnifies the benefits the more games any country gets?
I do realise that it's closer from NY to Toronto, but are they going to make it a East Coast WC?
Maybe Kansas City since the have a rabid following of the sport there.
Done right it could work really well. 3 teams could get a home pitch advantage in the group stages.
I don't understand, everyone knows the bid was corrupt, so why haven't any of the National FAs come out and said that they are boycotting this tournament?
It wouldn't matter where the tournament is being held if the best teams refuse to play in it. That alone would force FIFA to change the location as no one would want to watch a WC without the likes of Germany, England, Brazil, USA or Spain.
UEFA should be at the front of any boycott, seeing as a winter world cup would hit them hardest in terms of rescheduling the domestic and European fixture list for around two-three years.
Or am I missing some law that requires national teams to play in the world cup or face sanctions if they refuse?
It wouldn't matter where the tournament is being held if the best teams refuse to play in it. That alone would force FIFA to change the location as no one would want to watch a WC without the likes of Germany, England, Brazil, USA or Spain.
UEFA should be at the front of any boycott, seeing as a winter world cup would hit them hardest in terms of rescheduling the domestic and European fixture list for around two-three years.
Or am I missing some law that requires national teams to play in the world cup or face sanctions if they refuse?
They are letting the legal isssues take its course.
I assume Qatar will be made an offer they cannot refuse.
Did you watch England's last game?
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Man, what would we do with WC without England. Without USA...
Can't bear to imagine that.
Can't bear to imagine that.
Just cancel the shite.
What I've been wondering too. Get all the big boys to boycott and Fifa would have no choice but to move it from Qatar.
Would that mean three places for the hosts though... Seems a lot
I was more referring to the fans rather than the quality of any of the teams in particular. FIFA would not want a world cup without those travelling fans, not to mention loss of viewership from a boycott.
Any boycott wouldn't have to be limited to just the teams, if sponsors started pulling out on grounds of human rights violations, then FIFA would have to take notice. If all they care about is money, then talk to them in a language they understand.
Fifa should probably consider not allowing authoritarian states to host the tournament at all since they are ripe with corruption.
Give it to a country that doesn't even believe in the game & had it last in 1994, yet ignore the home of football who last hosted it in 1966.
There are plenty of Americans that like football, its one of the biggest and diverse countries in the world. Just because it's not their most popular sport doesn't mean there isn't appetite for the game in America.
England will have a very good shout if they do take it from Qatar.
England could have everything ready in a matter of months, if not weeks.
Every match sold out.
Would be a superb tournament.
England could have everything ready in a matter of months, if not weeks.
Every match sold out.
Would be a superb tournament.
Yes we are. I live in Shanghai and July - September was rarely below 35C and up to 43C. There is also very little difference between night and daytime temperatures compared to some countries (usually only ca. 5C and humidity is at it's highest).
Spring (March - April) or Autumn (October - November) would be perfect but Summer is hot (didn't stop the Olympics in Beijing though).
Northern China (Beijing) is also very hot in Summer but temperatures cool quicker as the seasons change. Southern China is usually even hotter than Shanghai (East Central on the coast).
Cal is right. You are wrong I'm afraid. Where temperatures are concerned. Many games are played in the evening.
A further disgrace is that it was bid as a summer tournament with "air conditioned stadia" and then as soon as they won, they said it would have to be in winter.
Utterly scandalous.
So the entire football calendar needs to be upended so the WC can be hosted in a micro country that is a desert.
I think you will see BIG pressure from the premier league and UEFA over this issue.
The PL is a multi-billion dollar industry. The idea it should cancel the schedule it has had for over a hundred years to accommodate his shambles is ridiculous.
Utterly scandalous.
So the entire football calendar needs to be upended so the WC can be hosted in a micro country that is a desert.
I think you will see BIG pressure from the premier league and UEFA over this issue.
The PL is a multi-billion dollar industry. The idea it should cancel the schedule it has had for over a hundred years to accommodate his shambles is ridiculous.
How late are you thinking ?! Because there is a +7 hours difference
I'm not sure about the attacks (at least not as reprisal). Qatar are not well liked amongst Arab nations who might enjoy seeing their loss of face.
Of course it is. The world's politics are built upon it. Whether overt or covert.
Lots of "England/USA/etc can easily host it at short notice"
I'm not so sure. Stadia might ready but there's a considerable financial implication too, which the governments in question may or may not be willing to allow.
A WC in England should be cracking though.
I'm not so sure. Stadia might ready but there's a considerable financial implication too, which the governments in question may or may not be willing to allow.
A WC in England should be cracking though.
Bribery is illegal in most countries, unless of course you don't like an a democratic state in which case its more common and legally "overlooked".
It would indeed, especially since England got screwed by this whole Russia/Qatar thing.
Just take it off them already, the corruption and bungs aside. It makes zero sense to hold a football tournament in a desert!!
We don't want a winter world cup and we don't want players being pushed to the extreme in insane conditions. What will happen is the football will turn pedestrian and boring.
We don't want a winter world cup and we don't want players being pushed to the extreme in insane conditions. What will happen is the football will turn pedestrian and boring.
You could say the same about quite a few countries. England, Germany, France, Spain, USA, Japan...
I'm not sure FIFA could even give it to a combined bid from 3 CONCACAF countries all of whom would require byes into the finals .. and what about the other CONCACAF countries ? They would need to be given a chance to qualify too. So FOUR CONCACAF countries ? Unless they expand the number of countries (as has been mooted) then this would surely be a non-starter.
Shame they won't just cancel the 2022 world cup entirely, would be well deserved from Fifa's point of view, and Qatar obviously deserves being left high and dry with half built stadia to demolish.
I still don't understand why Qatar couldn't have the tournament during the summer, but at night when it's cooler.
If you don't believe that MNCs run virtually all of the Western world then, IMHO, that's naive. Money runs power and MNCs have it and utilise it, politicians are merely puppets, whether they like and agree to it or not.