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They wouldn't get visa's.Why can’t South Asians simple travel to wherever the WC is held ?
They wouldn't get visa's.Why can’t South Asians simple travel to wherever the WC is held ?
Any particular reason why?They wouldn't get visa's.
Because their teams never qualify. Plus they are poor countries, I don't think some westerners realise how good they have it economically/politically which allows them to travel freely.Any particular reason why?
Is having your nation qualify a prerequisite of obtaining a tourist visa ?Because their teams never qualify.
Qatar has a huge Indian population, many of them from Indian state of Kerala, where there are are crazy football fans of every major team. If you have seen the pic with huge cutouts of Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar on a river, that pic is from Kerala.Are these locals dressed up?
Paid actors, all of them. Paid to watch football.None of those are real fans.
Seems a bit set up to me mate, not buying it at all. No doubt Kerala people love football but this is obviously some kind of staged celebration to start the World Cup.Qatar has a huge Indian population, many of them from Indian state of Kerala, where there are are crazy football fans of every major team. If you have seen the pic with huge cutouts of Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar on a river, that pic is from Kerala.
WC is one of the ridiculously followed tournament of Kerala. Brazil and Argentina fans would go for war over it
Are you referring to Brazil and Argentina fans from Kerela ?Qatar has a huge Indian population, many of them from Indian state of Kerala, where there are are crazy football fans of every major team. If you have seen the pic with huge cutouts of Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar on a river, that pic is from Kerala.
WC is one of the ridiculously followed tournament of Kerala. Brazil and Argentina fans would go for war over it
Yes.Are you referring to Brazil and Argentina fans from Kerela ?
Its truly bizarre. Why not have actual fans from countries with teams at the WC show up and film them instead of renting a battalion of south asians with no connection to any of the tournament's actual participant nations ?Paid actors, all of them. Paid to watch football.
A bit setup maybe, but may not be totally fake. But that is not something new for big tournaments. There will be fan clubs encouraged to come out in numbers and paid for to make sure there is festivities all around.Seems a bit set up to me mate, not buying it at all. No doubt Kerala people love football but this is obviously some kind of staged celebration to start the World Cup.
Your assumption that traditional WC nations have fans only in their countries is bizarre or naive. A south Asian German NT fans celebrating is as valid as Germans celebrating.Its truly bizarre. Why not have actual fans from countries with teams at the WC show up and film them instead of renting a battalion of south asians with no connection to any of the tournament's actual participant nations ?
They likely can, but financially speaking, this one's going to be the cheapest and easiest to make it toWhy can’t South Asians simply travel to wherever the WC is held ?
I suppose you could make that point at the club level, but it strikes me as a bit odd to make it at the national level, given that the purpose of the WC is for rival football nations to compete with one another with the support of fans from their respective nations.Your assumption that traditional WC nations have fans only in their countries is bizarre or naive. A south Asian German NT fans celebrating is as valid as Germans celebrating.
For me it was about racism. For some it's about where it is in terms of ease of travel.Why can’t South Asians simply travel to wherever the WC is held ?
I cant believe people still ask this question. Europeans and Americans does not understand the severity to obtain a visa from 3rd world countries.Why can’t South Asians simply travel to wherever the WC is held ?
Or we can just see it for what it is.Reading some posts here you can see many in this thread have never travelled outside their own countries. Zero interest in other cultures.
This is not club football. It is about nations. Those people you call fans are usually fans of a certain player and can support players country. We can all do that. Support someone for fun. It is normal. But supporting other country for real? I find it strange. Question woud be if their own country played against country they "support". Who would they actually support?Your assumption that traditional WC nations have fans only in their countries is bizarre or naive. A south Asian German NT fans celebrating is as valid as Germans celebrating.
Jeez. Some of you lot are so convinced that there is only one way of being a football fan. While there are a hundred reasons you would follow a team and be passionate about it. I am curious to know what makes club football that unique to have overseas fans, but not national teams. Do you think the United fans in India were approached by marketing teams from Manchester for support. People became United supporters by watching United on TV. Reading about United history. Following their favorite players, and so many other reasons. Everyone has their ownThis is not club football. It is about nations. Those people you call fans are usually fans of a certain player and can support players country. We can all do that. Support someone for fun. It is normal. But supporting other country for real? I find it strange. Question woud be if their own country played against country they "support". Who would they actually support?
Something I haven't considered yet, but with the tournament being in Qatar, will there be a babe watch thread ?
I was wondering about this. If female fans showed up clad in the outfits they did at Brazil, for instance, would anything be done? Is there some kind of "dress code" for fans at the stadiums?Babe watch threads require babes, which isn’t likely in a place like Qatar.
Tourist visas for people from poorer countries are really hard to get. I hate the Qatar WC but it will be much better for Indians, Asians and Africans to attend. Europe, North America and weirdly South America are really hard for most of the world.Is having your nation qualify a prerequisite of obtaining a tourist visa ?
Given all the talk of respecting Qatari customs, I wouldn’t think many visiting females from the west would wear bikini tops or the like.I was wondering about this. If female fans showed up clad in the outfits they did at Brazil, for instance, would anything be done? Is there some kind of "dress code" for fans at the stadiums?
They need to make this WC to look as good as possible considering how controversial it is. And propaganda is the only thing they know and are used to. The other problem might be, if they actively approach and film actual fans the fans will run back to their country due to fear of spies.Its truly bizarre. Why not have actual fans from countries with teams at the WC show up and film them instead of renting a battalion of south asians with no connection to any of the tournament's actual participant nations ?
Idk, but i think is kinda weird to be a fan for other NT that isn't yours.Jeez. Some of you lot are so convinced that there is only one way of being a football fan. While there are a hundred reasons you would follow a team and be passionate about it. I am curious to know what makes club football that unique to have overseas fans, but not national teams. Do you think the United fans in India were approached by marketing teams from Manchester for support. People became United supporters by watching United on TV. Reading about United history. Following their favorite players, and so many other reasons. Everyone has their own
Yeah, i can get wearing a t-shirt from other NT, i have done it.I suppose you could make that point at the club level, but it strikes me as a bit odd to make it at the national level, given that the purpose of the WC is for rival football nations to compete with one another with the support of fans from their respective nations.
Nothing like real England fans… no bellies out, no sun burned faces, no fighting, none of them are being sick in the street.
But many south Asian countries never had a chance to see their home nations compete on a big stage like the WC. Their only access to the outside footballing world was through radio and television. People literally grew up idolizing the big teams from Brazil, Argentina, Netherlands, Germany, Italy etc. People look up to the likes of Pele, Maradona as footballing gods.Idk, but i think is kinda weird to be a fan for other NT that isn't yours.
To the point of organizing a musical parade, i can understand wearing the shirt of other NT for fun, cause i have done it....but organizing a parade with chants for other NT it's kinda too much for my taste.
I remember a chinese friend told me that one if the reasons (not the only one) Football is struggling to become popular in China, it's cause there aren't Chinese top players, and most chinese don't care about sports where there isn't any chinese between the top performers and they would feel weird watching a game with a full set of players that look completely different to them.
You can see that some top players have fans in China, but Football as a sports in China is still minuscule in popularity.
Anyways to each it's own, but I'm not a fan of organizing parades and doing chants for other NTs that aren't mine.
I think the situation with clubs is different, as clubs aren't a full set of national players anymore like in the 70s and 80s.