Commentator says Welsh fans with rainbow colored hats not let in the ground.
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Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) discuss United's fantastic win away against Athletic Club in the semi-final of the Europa League.
They also pick out the positives of United's 4-3 loss away at Brentford, and Nik reviews a day out at Old Trafford watching Manchester United Women qualify for the Champions League.
Apparently told it was a banned symbol.
Ah yes it's like a swastika innit
Hahaha he's been itching for this
Wales with the first bit of actual atmosphere, well done.
Well made points.
There's a temptation to think everyone shares the sensibilities of the urban North Atlantic.
The flip side of that is the number of people going to the World Cup, many of them from those places, show these issues aren't as important to a lot of people as social media may make us think.
In places where these issues are not even highly topical, the stadiums, the infrastructure, the atmosphere are likely to be the big takeaways. Qatar proving it can put on events that compare or outstrip the Abu Dhabi grand Prix or Dubai's NYE celebrations.
We can debate the rights or wrongs but Qatar is on the map because of this World Cup, in a way it wasn't before.
Well English fans 1 - Iran 0 already
This attitude may easily turn WC into a Borat-revisiting-Qatar spoof, then…
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Ah this criticism is part of the wave that brings us to tipping points. Change and progress is rarely linear or even integrally logical. It's often a vague zeitgeist, and that being non ideological finds its voice in many ways.
Why does the criticism bother you so much?
Wembley a perfect example of this ! Really screws up the atmosphere as well by having massive gaps in the stands.
Exactly.
I was a bit skeptical when I heard that, it was reported initially in the Jerusalem Post which I wouldn’t really trust not to spin it in a certain way. But Middle East Eye which is regularly accused of being sympathetic to Qatar (and rumored to be directly funded by Qatar) is also reporting on it now - https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/qatar-world-cup-report-kosher-food-jewish-prayer
Let’s see what the response from the Qatari authorities is.
That's mad. I'd be genuinely flabbergasted if they banned kosher food.
Of course
Isn't kosher pretty much the same as halal?
Havn't seen a single hot babe in the stands yet?
The USA/Wales game had a really good atmosphere (the fans from both nations represented well).
I believe that while most if not all Kosher food would be considered Halal, the opposite is not true as there are more regulations concerning the production of Kosher food.
First game that felt like the World Cup.
Yes
That's something I've been wondering about for some time now.
It's quite unusual. As I said in another post, I've been involved in protest and strikes for almost 3 decades now and I've seen lots of indifference but never this level of pushback and attempts to undermine or discredit.
Anti-West sentiment is strong.
Maybe, but lots of pushback from the west too though.
It seems to get more obvious with every passing big event, too. It's just disgusting how many tickets are given to corporate wankers vs actual fans.
It's in the general. That guy can't complain, 10 years on here and still a newbie.
Plenty of people in the West who dislike Western "moral lecturing" or dislike progressive ideas.
So the actual issue is just part of a culture war of sorts?
That and we might not actually care about it?
I know. You’re doing Gods work. Just bringing it to your attention.
I wonder if this guy had any problems getting in to the stadiumBut even that is only strong online, just like the worry about LGBT or migrant workers rights in Qatar (a bunch of famous people and journalists complaining about on Twitter and other social media mostly).
Social media is really a distortion from reality, cause not even 10% of people use it.
There's definitely a culture war element to all the pushback IMO.
Not sure I agree, many companies in the West seem to have toned down or avoided association with this World Cup.
Maybe Qatar isn't so bad after all
It doesn't matter, most western countries will still do business with Qatar.
Qatar does businesses with most countries in the world, it's easier to name the countries they don't do businesses with.
No relevant western politician have said anything about Qatar, and they won't either.
Russia has been more cancelled than Qatar by western companies and politicians.
I already told you why - because most of it is utter nonsense
And remember what this thread subject is, I'm not refering to anything apart from that here
You'll be a busy man opposing the nonsense on redcafe!
You are a constant voice in a few of the threads, and usually playing down opposition. And while the title of this thread does look like nonsense I don't think the overall fact that people have issues is, and even in this thread there are valid issues.
I'm in those threads too but because I feel very strongly about the issue.
That dress needed a red cross in the middle.
I read Spanish press primarily and the coverage about the World Cup is not particularly positive.
The mistake you are making is assuming that particular concerns (such as workers' rights or gay rights) are going to be more important to people than broader concerns (not liking Qatar and Middle Eastern culture in general).