I think the formation could be successful if he actually played with two No.10s behind the forwards and played mobile strikers up top. I think Cavani/Martial and Greenwood/Rashford could work but we don't have the fullbacks for it. In reality we aren't built to play that way at all maybe when Pogba returns but still the FB issues will persist.Need to go away from the 4-2-2-2. We just don't have the midfield players to make it successful. Seems like it's too much change too soon.
Agreed, 1 shot on target between them after playing 2 back to back gamesI'm not turning on him, but for someone who speaks so much of control of the game, there is no way you can start both Cavani and Ronaldo.
Surely illegal to employ a 5 year old, even back then.Apparently Wolves haven't won here in 40 years and their manager was five years old or something.
Record breaker.
Where was this? Sky coverage ended with no interview from Ralph.Post-match was asked what he thought about the pressing, especially in the first half. Said that there wasn't any because we didn't get into the pressing situations and lacked control because Wolves was overloading the midfield. Then got asked about tactics in general, if the same issues we had tonight we also had during the previous matches, Ralf replied that to this extent but Wolves are also the best side he faced up until now. Pretty damning all this.
Starts at about 1:30 hereWhere was this? Sky coverage ended with no interview from Ralph.
Extremely important! Key ingredient watching both Arse-city and Liverpool- Chelsea. Intensity, tempo and sacrifice. Playing and working as a team wanting it more. Still need to work on that. A bit. But to put this on Ralf? Not fair.But what about passion? And wanting it more?
Who can he pick to help control the midfield though? Not happened in years.I’m not sure what he’s trying to do to be honest, he keeps picking a formation that isn’t working, playing players in positions that don’t suit them and not picking a midfield that has a chance of getting control on the game. He talks of pressing but isn’t demanding it or picking players who can do it. Just a bit of a mess really.
Hopefully he either gets well drilled in this formation or changes it to one that suits us more.
I’ll keeping sticking to it, we need to play a midfield three not two. That would at least give us a chance.Who can he pick to help control the midfield though? Not happened in years.
This for me is key as much as the central midfieldYou cannot play any type of pressing game with Ronaldo in the team. Either you play a differnt system or you drop Ronaldo against the better sides. He needs to decide and quick.
Yeah possibly. Part of the issue is that McTominay doesn’t have the qualities to be a holding midfielder. Gives too many fouls away needlessly, struggles to play good, decent passes to those in front of him constantly. Maybe in a three he can be the one to use his physical attributes more.I’ll keeping sticking to it, we need to play a midfield three not two. That would at least give us a chance.
Notice at around 5:15 he says I thought should I take out Edi or Mason , very honest bit there, didn't even contemplate taking Ronnie off despite him playing every game.Starts at about 1:30 here
That and any of our players even at their best like Shaw, Pogba and Bruno are hardly press resistant either. I don't care too much about pressing the other team. I care that our biggest problem is that we have no idea how to play with getting pressed. Losing all 50 - 50 balls and second balls all day long makes us a Sunday league team.You cannot play any type of pressing game with Ronaldo in the team. Either you play a differnt system or you drop Ronaldo against the better sides. He needs to decide and quick.
Ole was playing to the strengths to the players. Face it, he can use any formation or tactics and that would still fall short if the players dont give a shit and cant complete simple passes.Not Ralf's most impressive performance as United manager. The 4222 hasn't worked at all for us -- improved 1v1 defending (although Maguire is still a shambles) and outrageous goalkeeping have kept us in matches we've been outplayed in -- and deprives us our using our our width. Rashford has been horrifying since the arrival of Ralf, but of course he's been horrifying since he picked up the injuries over a year ago and delayed getting surgery for, and Sancho hasn't gotten off the blocks either.
Ralf needs to forget about his 4222 and play to the strength of our players, which is to create more width in a 352 setup. But before even going there, someone needs to have a word with whoever is making the big decisions to bring in a proper midfielder in January. A proper midfielder won't solve everything, but doing so will allow us to take two of Matic, Fred and McTominay off the pitch and allow us more attacking freedom. With Dave having returned to top form we can afford the luxury of not stacking defenders in front of him and allow players who want to express themselves in attacking situations to actually do that. Right now, we're far too rigid, no chances are being created and we're sitting ducks for the smash and grab goal for the win.
We should at least try it, I’d like to see a 3 of say Matic (as we don’t have another CDM), Fred/McT and Bruno/DVB, that way we have a sitter, a box to box and a passer. We could then have a front 3 of Sancho, Ronaldo and Greenwood.Yeah possibly. Part of the issue is that McTominay doesn’t have the qualities to be a holding midfielder. Gives too many fouls away needlessly, struggles to play good, decent passes to those in front of him constantly. Maybe in a three he can be the one to use his physical attributes more.
Matic playing most of the games will not end well. That's why we have been using McFred. A great midfielder would solve at least half of our problems.We should at least try it, I’d like to see a 3 of say Matic (as we don’t have another CDM), Fred/McT and Bruno/DVB, that way we have a sitter, a box to box and a passer. We could then have a front 3 of Sancho, Ronaldo and Greenwood.
I’d prefer to try that than what he is atm.
I strongly disagree.This for me is key as much as the central midfield
I know but we know howMcFred usually ends as well. Just goes to show how long We’ve neglected the CDM position that Matic is our only real one.Matic playing most of the games will not end well. That's why we have been using McFred. A great midfielder would solve at least half of our problems.
I agree to an extent but days like today we really need that extra body pulling his weight too and he can’t. It’s like ibra all over againI strongly disagree.
If you've got an aggressive high press, the backline can move up, the midfield with it, and the forwards don't really have to run that much, other than maybe shift and close passing lanes. You don't need Ronaldo to run too much for that to work.
If you have the half-hearted press we see today, where sometimes the front three or four press, the mids drop off, and the backline as well, you get the gaps we see, where Wolves basically play around it, find the space between the back and mid, and are at our back four.
The problem is how we set up, with a sort of mid-to-low block, and people not really committed, or mobile in central mid. Matic has no legs, and basically drops sometimes to centre back, McTomminay is average against any technical midfield that doesn't give him space, and the fullbacks are woeful so there's no width there.
