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Poor Ralf. Catching strays cause a manchild was having a tantrum.
 

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It's weird that people have to bring up Rangnick every once in a while to have a dig at him. He was an interim, not very successful and was shown the door by the new manager.

If he has turned down the job, we'd have probably gone for Laurent Blanc.
 
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Ronaldo wasn't wrong about Ralf though.

A nobody who was never a coach to begin with. How he got the job, even on an interim basis, is beyond me.
meh, Avram Grant managed Chelsea, Di Matteo also. Koeman mananged Barca, Queiroz managed Madrid, Ronaldo re-signed when we had Ole fecking Solksjaer managing us before Ralf :lol:

Ronaldo’s attitude towards Ralf was probably one of the reasons he failed so so badly, zero respect, ridicule & refusal to play to his system. Completely undermined him clearly.

Ronaldo’s been a knob however you paint it.
 

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He was a manager for a long time. Perhaps not that famous outside of Germany but hardly a nobody.

A lot of top English managers are probably nobodies in Germany.
Exactly. He is very well known in Germany and has/had a very good reputation here.
 

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He was a manager for a long time. Perhaps not that famous outside of Germany but hardly a nobody.

A lot of top English managers are probably nobodies in Germany.
I’m sure many of these coaches exist in most leagues, you can’t blame Ronaldo or any fan for not knowing who he was. Ronaldo is a man who has played in 4 different leagues, every tournament you can think of. He isn’t just English based
 

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Ronaldo wasn't wrong about Ralf though.

A nobody who was never a coach to begin with. How he got the job, even on an interim basis, is beyond me.
Of course he was wrong. Rangnick is a very good manager. Players need to look in the mirror.
 

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I’m sure many of these coaches exist in most leagues, you can’t blame Ronaldo or any fan for not knowing who he was. Ronaldo is a man who has played in 4 different leagues, every tournament you can think of. He isn’t just English based
But Ronaldo's criticism was he hadn't heard of him and therefore he had no merit being a United manager.

That's not a good enough objection
 

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Only problem is he was a sporting director not a coach/manager.
Still speaks volumes about Ronaldo not knowing him (certainly a lie) than about the credentials of RR. Also it appears that the problem lies within the superficial "Who is he?" rather than "What does he do?" which is also of no surprise. RR actually did win some silverware as a coach too though.
CR7 is on a extra weird mode for quite some time (since he won the CL last time I'd reckon). I'm a bit afraid for him for the time after his career on the pitch.
 

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Ronaldo wasn't wrong about Ralf though.

A nobody who was never a coach to begin with. How he got the job, even on an interim basis, is beyond me.
:houllier: :houllier:

Rangnick had Ronaldo's number from the get-go. He wanted him out immediately and told this to the parasites. The only thing Ronaldo is doing is proving him 100% right. Something that has been happening rather frequently.
 

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:houllier: :houllier:

Rangnick had Ronaldo's number from the get-go. He wanted him out immediately and told this to the parasites. The only thing Ronaldo is doing is proving him 100% right. Something that has been happening rather frequently.
To be fair, Ralf wanted 10 new players so basically he wanted everyone out :lol:

What a fecking disaster of a tenure.
 

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He was a manager for a long time. Perhaps not that famous outside of Germany but hardly a nobody.

A lot of top English managers are probably nobodies in Germany.
Doesn't someone have to exist to be a nobody?
 

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To be fair, Ralf wanted 10 new players so basically he wanted everyone out :lol:

What a fecking disaster of a tenure.
Has been proven right again. We bought 5 new players in the summer and probably need anither 5.
 

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To be fair, Ralf wanted 10 new players so basically he wanted everyone out :lol:

What a fecking disaster of a tenure.
He did, but he didn't say it had to happen over one window. And he was absolutely right. Ten Hag chose to ignore this at first. And it took him two games to reach the same conclusion. We brought five players in. And it's painfully evident we need as much more.
 
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He did, but he didn't say it had to happen over one window. And he was absolutely right. Ten Hag chose to ignore this at first. And it took him two games to reach the same conclusion. We brought five players in. And it's painfully evident we need as much more.
Has been proven right again. We bought 5 new players in the summer and probably need anither 5.
Who you all forgetting, the keeper? We brought in 6.
 

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He never stood a chance at United after only being appointed as Interim with no real sway and now what appears to be Ronaldo being a colossal bellend behind the scenes. It's no wonder he looked like he'd given up towards the end and went searching for another job.
 

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To be fair, Ralf wanted 10 new players so basically he wanted everyone out :lol:

What a fecking disaster of a tenure.
I think this quote has been taken out of context a bit and been sensationalised. He was talking about the amount of players that were leaving due to contracts being up and needing to replace them plus then add quality to other positions. We added five and most of us would probably agree we could have done with a few more
 

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I think this quote has been taken out of context a bit and been sensationalised. He was talking about the amount of players that were leaving due to contracts being up and needing to replace them plus then add quality to other positions. We added five and most of us would probably agree we could have done with a few more
I was simply replying to the last poster who said he wanted Ronaldo out. He wanted everyone out.

I think some of yous really need to read the whole thread before commenting on something.

He was also a fecking disaster of a manager.
 
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He never stood a chance at United after only being appointed as Interim with no real sway and now what appears to be Ronaldo being a colossal bellend behind the scenes. It's no wonder he looked like he'd given up towards the end and went searching for another job.
Feel proper sorry for him after hearing Ronaldo’s comments, clear he was ridiculed and undermined from the get-go. Add that to Carrick, McKenna and co. all deserting him, leaving him desperately grabbing any coaches he could find that would come for a short spell and well, he was on an absolute hiding to nothing.
 

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Feel proper sorry for him after hearing Ronaldo’s comments, clear he was ridiculed and undermined from the get-go. Add that to Carrick, McKenna and co. all deserting him, leaving him desperately grabbing any coaches he could find that would come for a short spell and well, he was on an absolute hiding to nothing.
He wasn't wrong about anything he said about Ralf though. If you actually watched the interview he wasn't trying to riducule Ralf. He was highlighting the fact that the club has gone backwards/stayed the same since 20 years ago.
 

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He wasn't wrong about anything he said about Ralf though. If you actually watched the interview he wasn't trying to riducule Ralf. He was highlighting the fact that the club has gone backwards/stayed the same since 20 years ago.
Yeah right. The guy flew to Portugal because he got benched, he was obviously causing problems for Ralf and now Ten Hag
 

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Yes but again, that doesn't mean what he said isn't true...

Not sure how the two are correlated.
The two are correlated because hes making excuses for his shitty behaviour. Rangnick was an interim not the full time manager.
 

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Feel proper sorry for him after hearing Ronaldo’s comments, clear he was ridiculed and undermined from the get-go. Add that to Carrick, McKenna and co. all deserting him, leaving him desperately grabbing any coaches he could find that would come for a short spell and well, he was on an absolute hiding to nothing.
feck him. Blamed everybody but himself and got himself a cushy wee job off the back of it.
 
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He wasn't wrong about anything he said about Ralf though. If you actually watched the interview he wasn't trying to riducule Ralf. He was highlighting the fact that the club has gone backwards/stayed the same since 20 years ago.
They haven’t stayed the same though, they’ve jumped to crazy LvG, to super serious pragmatic Mourinho, to nostalgia Ole, to nostalgia signings, to serious Ten Hag and a new philosophy.

Staying the same doesn’t make any sense, the club even started updating Carrington last Summer. One of the dickheads gripes was that a couple of chefs still work there, wtf?

He said something about “the best players in the World” and well, we signed Varane last season and Casemiro this summer. The guy’s acting like a self serving dickhead.

He didn’t like Ralf, like he doesn’t like Ten Hag, like he didn’t like Allegri, because he thinks systems are shit and that anything other than building around him is “disrespectful”.
 

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He wasn't wrong about anything he said about Ralf though. If you actually watched the interview he wasn't trying to riducule Ralf. He was highlighting the fact that the club has gone backwards/stayed the same since 20 years ago.
The interviews not been aired yet.
 

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feck him. Blamed everybody but himself and got himself a cushy wee job off the back of it.
Biggest fraud to step foot at this club.

And there have been quite a few since SAF retired.

Murtough got it very wrong at the time, as most of us predicted, but he made amends for the ETH hire.

In hindsight it was only temporary, but we lost out on a fourth place spot which was very gettable if we had hired a manager who could just get the team playing half decently instead of completely imploding.
 

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I feel bad for Ralph. Last year's locker room was full of absolute cancers - Ronaldo, Pogba, Lingard, Henderson, even Cavani with his AWOL antics. He never had a chance to stamp his authority.
 

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I was simply replying to the last poster who said he wanted Ronaldo out. He wanted everyone out.

I think some of yous really need to read the whole thread before commenting on something.

He was also a fecking disaster of a manager.
to be honest i was only commenting on the "ten new players" bit that always gets thrown about when taking shots at Ragnick. F.W.I.W. i also think he was a disaster of a manager and in hindsight should never had been brought in
 

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Brave of Ronaldo to go at Rangnick…

Punching down is pathetic.
And in doing so he has vindicated RR, he never stood a chance when probably the greatest player ever didn't respect him or even attempt to work in his system. Given everything else that was going against him like having no preseason, no winter signings and a broken, treacherous dressing room - Ronaldo flatly refusing to give him a chance was the killer. Basically by undermining the manager Ronaldo killed whatever chance we had to salvage the season.
 

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Biggest fraud to step foot at this club.

And there have been quite a few since SAF retired.

Murtough got it very wrong at the time, as most of us predicted, but he made amends for the ETH hire.

In hindsight it was only temporary, but we lost out on a fourth place spot which was very gettable if we had hired a manager who could just get the team playing half decently instead of completely imploding.
He was the worst manager we have had.
He was also not the biggest fraud when we have had Woodward who has done far more damage to us.
Also Rangnick was a manager in Germany and anyone siding with Ronaldo in this is either driven by agenda or as clueless as Ronaldo.
 

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Ronaldo wasn't wrong about Ralf though.

A nobody who was never a coach to begin with. How he got the job, even on an interim basis, is beyond me.
Rangnick was a failed experiment but it's easy to see why it happened. We didn't have any viable replacement, the club chose not to go for Conte and there were no other coaches with any pedigree available at the time. It's the same reason why Solskjaer didn't go until we got several pastings in quick succession.

Rangnick was a placeholder until we could get the new guy (ten Hag) in and now we've managed to do that. Everyone accepts Rangnick's stint went badly but Ronaldo firing shots at him is just underlining how much of an arsehole he is.
 

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Also Rangnick was a manager in Germany and anyone siding with Ronaldo in this is either driven by agenda or as clueless as Ronaldo.
Siding with Ronaldo how?

Was Rangnick a trainwreck better suited to building a club's structure than to coaching a football team? Yes.

Did it make sense hiring a guy who hadn't coached in years to coach a badly coached side? No. Furthermore, we failed to even secure him adequate coaches to implement his style, ending up with some MLS coaches who seemed 'surprised by the speed of the game in the Premiership' (I mean WTAF?)

These are the point Ronaldo (self-serving or not) raised, and which I wholeheartedly agree with.
 

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Siding with Ronaldo how?

Was Rangnick a trainwreck better suited to building a club's structure than to coaching a football team? Yes.

Did it make sense hiring a guy who hadn't coached in years to coach a badly coached side? No. Furthermore, we failed to even secure him adequate coaches to implement his style, ending up with some MLS coaches who seemed 'surprised by the speed of the game in the Premiership' (I mean WTAF?)

These are the point Ronaldo (self-serving or not) raised, and which I wholeheartedly agree with.
Nah he also claimed Rangnick wasnt ever a coach and that he didnt know who he was. that makes him sound like a clueless git. If you are supposed to be a professional football player you should educate yourself on who your interim manager is.

Who would you have signed instead for the interim? Carrick didnt want to stay.
Rangnick turned out to be terrible. But we where not exactly swimming in options.

Ronaldo is just shitting on Rangnick and the Glazers to try to get the fans on his side. If you think he gives an iota about what happens to anyone or anything other than himself you are, quite frankly, naive.
 

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Nah he also claimed Rangnick wasnt ever a coach and that he didnt know who he was. that makes him sound like a clueless git. If you are supposed to be a professional football player you should educate yourself on who your interim manager is.
Ronaldo was basically right, though. Rangnick wasn't really a manager anymore, he was a DoF. That Rangnick had barely managed over the last decade was a point against him that was mentioned many times.
 

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Rangnick made sense as an interim, we were/are just too broken a football club for it to actually work. He's a smart football man and at least a Red Bull coach addresses the fitness/running issues we clearly had. In hindsight, probably the move was McLaren even though it would have been the peak of being banter FC, but also if Ten Hag hadn't come it would have been a disaster.

The other option that comes to mind that might have worked as an interim is if we'd gone for Eddie Howe after the 5-0 Liverpool loss, just pipping Newcastle to him by 3 weeks, then not renewed him no matter the results really.