Robbie Boy
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Jose was the best and Moyes was the worst. The rest can go anywhere, really.
Yep, agree with thisJose was the best and Moyes was the worst. The rest can go anywhere, really.
Yes. Anyone saying anything else is just an agenda driven posterJose was the best and Moyes was the worst. The rest can go anywhere, really.
None of them were good after Moyes, it was a very overrated squad.Moyes by far the worst. That much is clear. He still had great players, even if some of them were coming to the end of their peak, and he fecked it all up.
I used to think the same, but as time passes I'm more and more inclined to accept the opinion that Mourinho wasn't our clear number 1.Jose was the best and Moyes was the worst. The rest can go anywhere, really.
They were all varying degrees of shite. But Mourinho was by far the most unlikeable. It was a really grim time to be a United fan when he was in charge. So there’s no way he should top any list of “best managers”.I used to think the same, but as time passes I'm more and more inclined to accept the opinion that Mourinho wasn't our clear number 1.
Mourinho wins the PPG and trophy (albeit minor) count. This would put him in the number one spot on most lists (including mine). But it has to be said that he had the worst transfer record overall (in my opinion) and arguably the worst personality. He was so miserable it's a miracle it took him so long to lose the dressing room. I think this proves that as long as youget results you can be a dickhead. But good luck when you start losing!
I can't stand Mourinho and I didn't enjoy a fair chunk of his tenure. But, he won 2 trophies and got us our best points total post-Fergie.I used to think the same, but as time passes I'm more and more inclined to accept the opinion that Mourinho wasn't our clear number 1.
Mourinho wins the PPG and trophy (albeit minor) count. This would put him in the number one spot on most lists (including mine). But it has to be said that he had the worst transfer record overall (in my opinion) and arguably the worst personality. He was so miserable it's a miracle it took him so long to lose the dressing room. I think this proves that as long as you get results you can be a dickhead. But good luck when you start losing!
This is correct.Jose was the best and Moyes was the worst. The rest can go anywhere, really.
I think this will go in waves. When we play boring football and can't score people realise just how important goals are (duh). And when we have absolutely no control or plan then people might start to think that Van Gaal was kind of underrated.I've never really thought about it but it's pretty crazy that I'd probably rank Ole as 2nd best
Yup. If he somehow gets us CL football two seasons in a row (plus a domestic cup) then he’s top of the list.By the way, why are we already ranking Ten Hag? He's not been sacked yet. If he got sacked tomorrow then I would also rank him below Jose, Ole and possibly also Van Gaal (they are neck and neck as far as I'm concerned). But if he manages to turn the season around, play better football, get top 4 and keep his job? Well then he's back in the discussion again.
Worst transfer record easily belongs to Ten Hag. Pretty much all his signings are on course of becoming a failure except Martinez who has the jury still out on him.I used to think the same, but as time passes I'm more and more inclined to accept the opinion that Mourinho wasn't our clear number 1.
Mourinho wins the PPG and trophy (albeit minor) count. This would put him in the number one spot on most lists (including mine). But it has to be said that he had the worst transfer record overall (in my opinion) and arguably the worst personality. He was so miserable it's a miracle it took him so long to lose the dressing room. I think this proves that as long as you get results you can be a dickhead. But good luck when you start losing!
His worst (the third season) was easily better than this season or Ole’s fourth season. And his two best seasons were better than anything we had under any manager albeit nowhere good enough of what we should aspire.jose was both the best and worst. Like a manchild, who, although correct on some points, behaved like a feckin child. He needed an open handed slap in the face.
The excuse Moyes gets is weird. No one expected him to win the title but the squad wasn't that bad to finish 7th. He was awful and our worst manager post SAF.The squad Moyes inherited was over the hill. The fact Alex won the league was a minor miracle which he knew he would not be able to recreate. People act like Moyes dismantled the place when, in fact, he made cosmetic changes at best and then Van Gaal came in and took a wrecking ball to the squad.
You would think Rene and Mick were some kind of footballing masterminds he way people go on. The only football mastermind was Alex, which is why the fall was so dramatic. There was a severe lack of infrastructure as Ferguson was capable of doing so much and this was only truly exposed when he left.
But the true kiss of death was having Woodward in charge, a man I would not trust to run a corner shop.
Yup, pretty much.What's clear is we've had a host of awful managers from the moment Fergie retired.
The squad was deeply flawed with too many crocks and over the hill players. That’s why LVG tried to overhaul things to the degree he did. The owners had been asset-stripping the club for years and allowing standards to erode and, like is often the case, the lack of investment led to a sudden and painful demise.The excuse Moyes gets is weird. No one expected him to win the title but the squad wasn't that bad to finish 7th. He was awful and our worst manager post SAF.
Nope. Blaming very good managers for organisational failures. They all know the score of what it is like. Moyes is literally one of the best league managers over the past several seasons while Mourinho won a trophy for Roma. LVG’s pedigree is excellent. Sometimes you have to accept the issue is not the manager.What's clear is we've had a host of awful managers from the moment Fergie retired.
No one expected Moyes to keep that squad challenging for title. He had that squad heading toward bottom half table if given more chances. No one stopping Moyes to use the fund to improve that squad. He himself admitted he dithered and having Woodward didn't help either. Rene and Mick Phelan might not be the masterminds, but they could do the waterboys job good enough, evidently Phelan under Ole was part of the team get top 3 two times in a row and an EL final.The squad Moyes inherited was over the hill. The fact Alex won the league was a minor miracle which he knew he would not be able to recreate. People act like Moyes dismantled the place when, in fact, he made cosmetic changes at best and then Van Gaal came in and took a wrecking ball to the squad.
You would think Rene and Mick were some kind of footballing masterminds he way people go on. The only football mastermind was Alex, which is why the fall was so dramatic. There was a severe lack of infrastructure as Ferguson was capable of doing so much and this was only truly exposed when he left.
But the true kiss of death was having Woodward in charge, a man I would not trust to run a corner shop.
Frankly, the club hung Moyes out to dry and used him as a convenient scapegoat for deep rooted issues that come all the way from the top and the asset-raping owners.
One thing Alex should take more of the criticism for is for covering for the owners for so long and also for causing the exit of the previous supportive ownership over a racehorse.