calodo2003
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ThisIsn’t the problem we’re told his PR work has no bearing on his football then when people criticise his football they’re directed to consider his PR work as mitigation?
ThisIsn’t the problem we’re told his PR work has no bearing on his football then when people criticise his football they’re directed to consider his PR work as mitigation?
What other people call him is their own business. I've seen lot worse in here towards other players and managers. You just need to look at Solskjaer thread. I don't agree with some of posts and as any other human he should not be abused in any kind of form. On other hand people need to see difference between criticism of his playing and abuse as a person.And what did I say linked to his football?
People are calling him a narcissist self centred person because he is charitably helping things that actually effected him when he was younger. There is nothing else about it.
His football is a different story. Ever since his injury he hasn't had a single full good game for both Ole and Rangnick aswell as for England.
Plenty of players "lose it" or have to adapt their game after injuries (Kaka is one of the most famous ones or Michael Owen) - but when it might be happening/have happened to one of our players then its got some shit about how him having some PR and writing books for Children because he doesn't care about football but wants to continue growing his head.
He clearly hasn't been the same since the issues with his back. Something else is a foot though, quite a few players in the squad are clearly way out of form/dissolutioned.What other people call him is their own business. I've seen lot worse in here towards other players and managers. You just need to look at Solskjaer thread. I don't agree with some of posts and as any other human he should not be abused in any kind of form. On other hand people need to see difference between criticism of his playing and abuse as a person.
I don't agree with you that his poor performances are because of his injury.
Yes, the pandemic giving no time for proper downtime has really affected some. And he has a back injury. Which as we all know will give you a lifetime of problems.Marcus would be wise to take some time off from everything — football, politics and business pursuits — and come back to training mentally and physically refreshed. He looks a broken man, which at his age is absurd.
Tell me one good performance he had after his injury. He was shit during play with injury ole put him through and then has been shit ever since it.What other people call him is their own business. I've seen lot worse in here towards other players and managers. You just need to look at Solskjaer thread. I don't agree with some of posts and as any other human he should not be abused in any kind of form. On other hand people need to see difference between criticism of his playing and abuse as a person.
I don't agree with you that his poor performances are because of his injury.
Of course back injuries effect your body. But when you are fit or near fit you can atleast do something on pitch.Tell me one good performance he had after his injury. He was shit during play with injury ole put him through and then has been shit ever since it.
I've studied musculoskeletal medicine so I know how a back injury effects things like movement and pace.
Some people only think leg injuries are bad.
"Robin van Persie has warned Manchester United that Marcus Rashford may always have a “weakspot” after picking up a back injury."
https://www.football365.com/news/robin-van-persie-warns-man-utd-marcus-rashford-back-injury
Tell me why he might not have a weakspot now that effects his running? (Arguably one of his best abilities).
Of course that is a great thing and we are talking about Rashford the football player and this is a Manchester United forum. If he cannot perform to the required standards as a United footballer then we have every right to criticize his football. Especially when his outside activities are effecting his football.Many footballers also don't force the government into uturns to enable thousands of kids to be better fed.
There's some very serious 'all lives matter' vibes coming off some of the nasty personal attacks...
If Ralf says he looks good in training and injuries are not an issue, any back problems must only occur on matchdayOf course back injuries effect your body. But when you are fit or near fit you can atleast do something on pitch.
If you look at most games this season he don't seem to have problem with running when he wants. He gets the ball. Stops the flow of the attack. Then starts running. It often ends up him trying to go past 3-4 players or running into them. When it comes to defensive duties it is less running and more walking. I believe that the issue is mentally. He need to go back to basics and need to cut some other things that may disturb his football.
I'm concerned that Rashford's back injury never healed properly after the surgery. A few weeks ago I made this point and a poster here, who apparently is a doctor, took me to school that what Rashford suffered from was fairly common and shouldn't be a long-term. I'm no doctor so I'll have to defer to medical experts, but what I see is a player who has lost quickness and the ability to turn at full pace to a dead stop. His game was all about power. In his pomp he never had finesse. (Unlike Martial, who has the finesse but no power to his game whatsoever.) Rashford might be able to develop finesse and become a different kind of forward but I'm not so sure about that.Yes, the pandemic giving no time for proper downtime has really affected some. And he has a back injury. Which as we all know will give you a lifetime of problems.
he has been awful this season. I’ve been calling for him to be told to go back to basics. Downtime for complete rest would help.
would i consider selling? Yes if we got an interesting offer but with a buy back. But only if there is a plan to replace him.
otherwise id be tempted to hold onto him and see what a coach like ETH could do with him
BUT.. if he’s mentally checked out and wants to leave we should facilitate it for around 60m.
ps. The off field charity work should be seen as s positive not a negative. People need to wind their necks in
Yep, I’m no expert but he’s never really recovered in my opinionI'm concerned that Rashford's back injury never healed properly after the surgery. A few weeks ago I made this point and a poster here, who apparently is a doctor, took me to school that what Rashford suffered from was fairly common and shouldn't be a long-term. I'm no doctor so I'll have to defer to medical experts, but what I see is a player who has lost quickness and the ability to turn at full pace to a dead stop. His game was all about power. In his pomp he never had finesse. (Unlike Martial, who has the finesse but no power to his game whatsoever.) Rashford might be able to develop finesse and become a different kind of forward but I'm not so sure about that.
I'm not so sure top clubs would be interested in the Marcus Rashford of today. Maybe a club Newcastle, who will be looking for players like Rashford and Maguire as they transition to a superclub 3-5 seasons from now. Maybe Villa, who have cash to spend but I doubt Gerrard would be interested.
Then how omg earth does he pass his medical fitness to play football?Yep, I’m no expert but he’s never really recovered in my opinion
Then why does he play like he is holding himself back? There may be a mental problem more than a physical but it looks like it’s something.Rashford himself said he's finally injury-free and ready to play football without worrying about his body.
It’s obviously a mental problem. I am not going to hop on the sell wagon unless the player wants out.Then why does he play like he is holding himself back? There may be a mental problem more than a physical but it looks like it’s something.
not saying I’m correct either just offering an opinion
I think that the injuries may have affected him long-term and he isn't able to adjust his game to reflect that.Then why does he play like he is holding himself back? There may be a mental problem more than a physical but it looks like it’s something.
not saying I’m correct either just offering an opinion
I do not deny that he may have after effects of his injury. Very possible. But (1) why is the medical staff passing him fit? (2) why does he not make an effort? We know that he can run as he does run but when it is time to track or defend he does not do that. When it is time to pass, he does not pass. If he is not fully fit, then he should tell the Manager and get on the treatment table and get treatment. I mean United is known to help with players who are injured. Jones is a very good example. He is still around and so was Ole and Hargreaves when they were injured.I think that the injuries may have affected him long-term and he isn't able to adjust his game to reflect that.
That's the thing though, he's as fit as he could be. He just lost a good bit of his pace and can't adjust. In the game against Spurs, he didn't even believe he could outpace Hojbjerg. This is a game where he pressed more than anyone else on the team, he just seems to have lost all ability when he has the ball.I do not deny that he may have after effects of his injury. Very possible. But (1) why is the medical staff passing him fit? (2) why does he not make an effort? We know that he can run as he does run but when it is time to track or defend he does not do that. When it is time to pass, he does not pass. If he is not fully fit, then he should tell the Manager and get on the treatment table and get treatment. I mean United is known to help with players who are injured. Jones is a very good example. He is still around and so was Ole and Hargreaves when they were injured.
Yes I think he has lost his pace. I cannot remember what match it was but I commented on the match day thread that he got beaten easily for pace by a defender. It does not happen that Rashford gets beaten when he has a head start before.That's the thing though, he's as fit as he could be. He just lost a good bit of his pace and can't adjust. In the game against Spurs, he didn't even believe he could outpace Hojbjerg. This is a game where he pressed more than anyone else on the team, he just seems to have lost all ability when he has the ball.
or why can't he pass a football 10 yards to a teammate?Then how omg earth does he pass his medical fitness to play football?
Not for a whole season in a football club.One can pass medical tests and be off peak fitness.
Rashford missed the few months of the season to recover from the surgery and it wouldn’t be unlike Ole to rush a player back before he’s fully fit.Not for a whole season in a football club.
And this is how I see it too.The simple truth is all Rashford had to his game was a burst of acceleration and now, probably due to the back injury, that's gone. And unlike a Rooney or a Kane he lacks the ability and football intelligence to be a different kind of forward.
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At United, even I'd be passed as fit and I couldn't run for more than ten minutes.Not for a whole season in a football club.
Makes you wonder if there was another level in him we'll never know about. I was convinced 22 year old Rooney was going to be a world player of the year.Looking back, what he achieved in his career is incredible considering he was a heavy drinker
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Rooney saying this in public is interesting. Wayne's not the type to say something like this if he has no understanding of the situation. A lot of the time when asked about United he just says he doesn't know cos he's not at the club.
I don't think Wayne would've made these comments about what's going on with Rashford, unless someone at United had told him that Rashford has his head stuck up his ar$£ at the moment. Kinda speaks to the state of the dressing room.
Common sense here.The simple truth is all Rashford had to his game was a burst of acceleration and now, probably due to the back injury, that's gone. And unlike a Rooney or a Kane he lacks the ability and football intelligence to be a different kind of forward.
Maybe? Rooney is close to a lot of people at United. Not just people like Darren Fletcher and Mike Phelan. Remember a lot of staff at United have been there for a long, long time. They've seen the best and worst of Rooney and kept it in house. If he wants a general feel for how things are going at the club he can pick up the phone to a lot of people.Any opinion of Rashford behind closed doors likely came from Carrick before he left, think he and Rooney were really close in their playing days.