Rate United players in your 99 overall rating.

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Let's rate our squad overall ability based on your perception and this season performances.
I'll go first. Explanatory why and how is a bonus.

1. De Gea : 85
2. Dean Henderson: 82
3. AWB: 81
4. Luke Shaw: 87
5. Lindelof: 82
6. Maguire: 88
7. Fred: 83
8. Mctominay: 82
9. Pogba: 88
10. Bruno: 89
11. Martial: 84
12. Rashford: 83
13. Cavani: 86
14. Greenwood: 83
15. Dan James: 79
16. Amad Diallo: 76
17. Brandon Williams: 75
18. Eric Bailly: 81
19. Phil Jones: 72
20. Alex Telles: 79
21. Matic: 77
22. Mata: 78
23. Tuanzebe: 79
24. Donny Van De Beek: 81
25. Shoretire: 74
 
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1. De Gea : 83
2. Dean Henderson: 81
3. AWB: 81
4. Luke Shaw: 85
5. Lindelof: 81
6. Maguire: 84
7. Fred: 80
8. Mctominay: 79
9. Pogba: 86
10. Bruno: 87
11. Martial: 82
12. Rashford: 84
13. Cavani: 86
14. Greenwood: 79
15. Dan James: 76
16. Amad Diallo: 74
17. Brandon Williams: 72
18. Eric Bailly: 80
19. Phil Jones: 74
20. Alex Telles: 81
21. Matic: 77
22. Mata: 75
23. Tuanzebe: 77
24. Donny Van De Beek: 82
25. Shoretire: 68
 

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I'm bored.

Let's rate our squad overall ability based on your perception and this season performances.
I'll go first. Explanatory why and how is a bonus.

1. De Gea : 85
2. Dean Henderson: 82
3. AWB: 81
4. Luke Shaw: 87
5. Lindelof: 82
6. Maguire: 88
7. Fred: 83
8. Mctominay: 82
9. Pogba: 88
10. Bruno: 89
11. Martial: 84
12. Rashford: 83
13. Cavani: 86
14. Greenwood: 83
15. Dan James: 79
16. Amad Diallo: 76
17. Brandon Williams: 75
18. Eric Bailly: 81
19. Phil Jones: 72
20. Alex Telles: 79
21. Matic: 77
22. Mata: 78
23. Tuanzebe: 79
24. Donny Van De Beek: 81
25. Shoretire: 74
Sancho 90
Grealish 85
Rice 85
Varane 85
 

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1. De Gea : 92
2. Dean Henderson: 80
3. AWB: 80
4. Luke Shaw: 90
5. Lindelof: 83
6. Maguire: 87
7. Fred: 79
8. Mctominay: 63
9. Pogba: 94
10. Bruno: 92
11. Martial: 86
12. Rashford: 86
13. Cavani: 88
14. Greenwood: 81
15. Dan James: 60
16. Amad Diallo: 77
17. Brandon Williams: 61
18. Eric Bailly: 81
19. Phil Jones: 65
20. Alex Telles: 75
21. Matic: 77
22. Mata: 74
23. Tuanzebe: 74
24. Donny Van De Beek: 83
25. Shoretire: 69
 

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1. De Gea : 92
2. Dean Henderson: 80
3. AWB: 80
4. Luke Shaw: 90
5. Lindelof: 83
6. Maguire: 87
7. Fred: 79
8. Mctominay: 63
9. Pogba: 94
10. Bruno: 92
11. Martial: 86
12. Rashford: 86
13. Cavani: 88
14. Greenwood: 81
15. Dan James: 60
16. Amad Diallo: 77
17. Brandon Williams: 61
18. Eric Bailly: 81
19. Phil Jones: 65
20. Alex Telles: 75
21. Matic: 77
22. Mata: 74
23. Tuanzebe: 74
24. Donny Van De Beek: 83
25. Shoretire: 69
I genuinely believe 90 is GOAT tier level. I think we have players who can achieve that level..but not this season? Surely.
 

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1. De Gea : 84
2. Dean Henderson: 82
3. AWB: 82
4. Luke Shaw: 89
5. Lindelof: 83
6. Maguire: 87
7. Fred: 80
8. Mctominay: 78
9. Pogba: 89
10. Bruno: 90
11. Martial: 84
12. Rashford: 87
13. Cavani: 87
14. Greenwood: 82
15. Dan James: 76
16. Amad Diallo: 77
17. Brandon Williams: 65
18. Eric Bailly: 80
19. Phil Jones: 65
20. Alex Telles: 77
21. Matic: 77
22. Mata: 74
23. Tuanzebe: 74
24. Donny Van De Beek: 80
25. Shoretire: 69
 

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1. De Gea : 79
2. Dean Henderson: 78
3. AWB: 81
4. Luke Shaw: 86
5. Lindelof: 79
6. Maguire: 87
7. Fred: 80
8. Mctominay: 78
9. Pogba: 85
10. Bruno: 91
11. Martial: 77
12. Rashford: 84
13. Cavani: 84
14. Greenwood: 79
15. Dan James: 76
16. Amad Diallo: 74
17. Brandon Williams: 72
18. Eric Bailly: 78
19. Phil Jones: 69
20. Alex Telles: 78
21. Matic: 77
22. Mata: 75
23. Tuanzebe: 75
24. Donny Van De Beek: 78
25. Shoretire: 68
 

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1. De Gea : 60
Cost us on multiple occasions, slightly redeemed by a worldy against Roma
2. Dean Henderson: 75
A few errors but looks hopeful
3. AWB: 80
Excellent defensively, needs to improve going forward
4. Luke Shaw: 95
Superb season from Shawinhio
5. Lindelof: 78
Solid but not quite good enough
6. Maguire: 88
Getting better all the time
7. Fred: 78
Never know which Fred is going to turn up
8. Mctominay: 82
Getting better all the time
9. Pogba: 88
Some extended periods of what we would expect, excellent after xmas
10. Bruno: 93
SUPER BRUNOOOOOOOOOOO
11. Martial: 0
Utterly pointless
12. Rashford: 85
Trooper, playing through injury and putting up decent numbers
13. Cavani: 90
fecking love this guy
14. Greenwood: 85
Cant wait to see him kick on next season
15. Dan James: 79
He is what he is
16. Amad Diallo: 77
Cant wait to see more of him
17. Brandon Williams: 70
Makes me very nervous
18. Eric Bailly: 81
Meh
19. Phil Jones: 0
Pointless
20. Alex Telles: 79
Able backup
21. Matic: 77
Meh
22. Mata: 78
Best days long gone
23. Tuanzebe: 79
Potential needs to be realised
24. Donny Van De Beek: 81
Unlucky, more to come from him hopefully
25. Shoretire: 74
Cant wait to see more of him
 

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I genuinely believe 90 is GOAT tier level. I think we have players who can achieve that level..but not this season? Surely.
Surely, GOATs should be around 98-100? Otherwise, what’s the point?
 

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1. De Gea : 84
2. Dean Henderson: 81
3. AWB: 81
4. Luke Shaw: 88
5. Lindelof: 80
6. Maguire: 87
7. Fred: 81
8. Mctominay: 81
9. Pogba: 88
10. Bruno: 90
11. Martial: 81
12. Rashford: 85
13. Cavani: 87
14. Greenwood: 83
15. Dan James: 77
16. Amad Diallo: 78
17. Brandon Williams: 73
18. Eric Bailly: 80
19. Phil Jones: 71
20. Alex Telles: 79
21. Matic: 78
22. Mata: 78
23. Tuanzebe: 78
24. Donny Van De Beek: 80
25. Shoretire: 74
 

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I've breaking each position down to 5 areas I think are important to make it easier to rank:

GK - Shot stopping, command of area, positioning, distribution and leadership.
De Gea - 18, 5, 17, 12, 8 = 60
Henderson - 15, 13, 13, 14, 14 = 69

FB - Physical, tackling, positioning, passing and attacking play.
Wan-Bissaka - 17, 20, 8, 11, 8 = 64
Shaw - 16, 17, 16, 16, 15 = 80
Telles - 14, 13, 10, 15, 15 = 67
Williams - 12, 10, 9, 12, 10 = 53

CB - Positioning, physical, technical, composure and leadership.
Maguire - 14, 15, 16, 11, 16 = 72
Lindelof - 12, 10, 14, 11, 13 = 60
Bailly - 14, 13, 14, 7, 10 = 58
Tuanzebe - 12, 16, 13, 12, 11 = 64
Jones - didn't see enough of him to rank.

CM - Passing, technical, physical, defensive work and decision making.
Fred - 8, 10, 17, 18, 8 = 61
McTominay - 11, 14, 17, 11, 12 = 65
Matic - 13, 14, 8, 12, 13 = 60

AM - Passing, technical, shooting, decision making and workrate.
Pogba - 17, 18, 16, 9, 10 = 70
Bruno - 13, 17, 18, 16, 17 = 81
Mata - 14, 15, 12, 14, 9 = 64
Van de Beek - 12, 14, 12, 11, 13 = 62

WG - Physical, technical, decision making, finishing and workrate.
Greenwood - 14, 16, 10, 16, 15 = 71
Rashford - 15, 17, 10, 17, 14 = 73
James - 17, 11, 11, 12, 15 = 66
Diallo - 10, 15, 12, 12, 14 = 63
Shoretire - didn't see enough of him to rank.

CF - Finishing, movement, physical, link up and leadership.
Cavani - 16, 20, 13, 18, 17 = 84
Martial - 14, 5, 12, 16, 0 = 47

1. De Gea : 60
2. Dean Henderson: 69
3. AWB: 64
4. Luke Shaw: 80
5. Lindelof: 60
6. Maguire: 72
7. Fred: 61
8. Mctominay: 65
9. Pogba: 70
10. Bruno: 81
11. Martial: 47
12. Rashford: 73
13. Cavani: 84
14. Greenwood: 71
15. Dan James: 66
16. Amad Diallo: 63
17. Brandon Williams: 53
18. Eric Bailly: 58
19. Phil Jones: n/a
20. Alex Telles: 67
21. Matic: 60
22. Mata: 64
23. Tuanzebe: 64
24. Donny Van De Beek: 62
25. Shoretire: n/a
 

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Bloody hell, looking at some of the scores you lads are giving I can't believe we didn't win the treble.
 

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1. De Gea : 60
Cost us on multiple occasions, slightly redeemed by a worldy against Roma
2. Dean Henderson: 75
A few errors but looks hopeful
3. AWB: 80
Excellent defensively, needs to improve going forward
4. Luke Shaw: 95
Superb season from Shawinhio
5. Lindelof: 78
Solid but not quite good enough
6. Maguire: 88
Getting better all the time
7. Fred: 78
Never know which Fred is going to turn up
8. Mctominay: 82
Getting better all the time
9. Pogba: 88
Some extended periods of what we would expect, excellent after xmas
10. Bruno: 93
SUPER BRUNOOOOOOOOOOO
11. Martial: 0
Utterly pointless
12. Rashford: 85
Trooper, playing through injury and putting up decent numbers
13. Cavani: 90
fecking love this guy
14. Greenwood: 85
Cant wait to see him kick on next season
15. Dan James: 79
He is what he is
16. Amad Diallo: 77
Cant wait to see more of him
17. Brandon Williams: 70
Makes me very nervous
18. Eric Bailly: 81
Meh
19. Phil Jones: 0
Pointless
20. Alex Telles: 79
Able backup
21. Matic: 77
Meh
22. Mata: 78
Best days long gone
23. Tuanzebe: 79
Potential needs to be realised
24. Donny Van De Beek: 81
Unlucky, more to come from him hopefully
25. Shoretire: 74
Cant wait to see more of him
I laughed. Thank you.

De Gea 60, god help me.
 

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1. De Gea : 83 good-ish keeper capable of an odd brilliant performance
2. Dean Henderson: 78 decent
3. AWB: 81 20/20 tackling significantly boosts his overall rating
4. Luke Shaw: 87 very good. Not yet in the 90s, but if he keeps improving?
5. Lindelof: 78 distinctly average
6. Maguire: 85 that’s about the highest I can go for someone of his ability. Not sure if injury-prowess is included in the rating, but it should be noted nonetheless
7. Fred: 81 good specialist player who lacks all-round ability to step up
8. Mctominay: 80 the sheer amount of goals elevates him to the 80’s
9. Pogba: 87 90s in ability, mid-80s in performances
10. Bruno: 91 for his incredible productivity, even though he probably.
11. Martial: 82 only based on this season, he should be in the mid 80s otherwise
12. Rashford: 85 needs consistency
13. Cavani: 85 very good end of the season
14. Greenwood: 83 same as Cavani
15. Dan James: 74 yeah :(
16. Amad Diallo: 76 produced flashes of brilliance in most of his appearances. Still has a lot more of work to do before breaking into the starting line up though
17. Brandon Williams: 72 simply not good enough
18. Eric Bailly: 77 I’d love to see him start a few games in a row, a shame that that’s an impossible expectation
19. Phil Jones: 70 at this point the rating may as well be zero
20. Alex Telles: 78 could do something, I guess
21. Matic: 78 he’s actually has some uses still
22. Mata: 78 same
23. Tuanzebe: 78 should do better
24. Donny Van De Beek: 76 based on this season alone, he clearly is a better player than that
25. Shoretire: 75 the default rating would do at this point
 

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I've breaking each position down to 5 areas I think are important to make it easier to rank:

GK - Shot stopping, command of area, positioning, distribution and leadership.
De Gea - 18, 5, 17, 12, 8 = 60
Henderson - 15, 13, 13, 14, 14 = 69

FB - Physical, tackling, positioning, passing and attacking play.
Wan-Bissaka - 17, 20, 8, 11, 8 = 64
Shaw - 16, 17, 16, 16, 15 = 80
Telles - 14, 13, 10, 15, 15 = 67
Williams - 12, 10, 9, 12, 10 = 53

CB - Positioning, physical, technical, composure and leadership.
Maguire - 14, 15, 16, 11, 16 = 72
Lindelof - 12, 10, 14, 11, 13 = 60
Bailly - 14, 13, 14, 7, 10 = 58
Tuanzebe - 12, 16, 13, 12, 11 = 64
Jones - didn't see enough of him to rank.

CM - Passing, technical, physical, defensive work and decision making.
Fred - 8, 10, 17, 18, 8 = 61
McTominay - 11, 14, 17, 11, 12 = 65
Matic - 13, 14, 8, 12, 13 = 60

AM - Passing, technical, shooting, decision making and workrate.
Pogba - 17, 18, 16, 9, 10 = 70
Bruno - 13, 17, 18, 16, 17 = 81
Mata - 14, 15, 12, 14, 9 = 64
Van de Beek - 12, 14, 12, 11, 13 = 62

WG - Physical, technical, decision making, finishing and workrate.
Greenwood - 14, 16, 10, 16, 15 = 71
Rashford - 15, 17, 10, 17, 14 = 73
James - 17, 11, 11, 12, 15 = 66
Diallo - 10, 15, 12, 12, 14 = 63
Shoretire - didn't see enough of him to rank.

CF - Finishing, movement, physical, link up and leadership.
Cavani - 16, 20, 13, 18, 17 = 84
Martial - 14, 5, 12, 16, 0 = 47

1. De Gea : 60
2. Dean Henderson: 69
3. AWB: 64
4. Luke Shaw: 80
5. Lindelof: 60
6. Maguire: 72
7. Fred: 61
8. Mctominay: 65
9. Pogba: 70
10. Bruno: 81
11. Martial: 47
12. Rashford: 73
13. Cavani: 84
14. Greenwood: 71
15. Dan James: 66
16. Amad Diallo: 63
17. Brandon Williams: 53
18. Eric Bailly: 58
19. Phil Jones: n/a
20. Alex Telles: 67
21. Matic: 60
22. Mata: 64
23. Tuanzebe: 64
24. Donny Van De Beek: 62
25. Shoretire: n/a
Why are our players league one level players... :(

But I think this one is good indication of their overall, mainly on form and performance levels this season.
 

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Why are our players league one level players... :(

But I think this one is good indication of their overall, mainly on form and performance levels this season.
They're not. We've a decent squad which will compete for top 4 next year. We probably over performed a little in the league this year but were found out in Europe.

Looking at your scores, I can only imagine sides like City have 95s across the board, without being a particularly amazing team in historical terms. By those rankings you would have to go above 100 to rate great teams of years gone by.

Making players like De Gea 80+ rated on the back of their performances this year is ridiculous. With the clear deficiencies in his game, rating him 85 on current form means someone like Buffon or Schmeichel in their prime would need to be rated 120+.

If Pogba is 88 and Bailly is 81, then Iniesta would be 135 and Maldini 150.
 
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1. De Gea : 81
2. Dean Henderson: 78
3. AWB: 79
4. Luke Shaw: 82
5. Lindelof: 78
6. Maguire: 81
7. Fred: 78
8. Mctominay: 77
9. Pogba: 86
10. Bruno: 84
11. Martial: 81
12. Rashford: 81
13. Cavani: 83
14. Greenwood: 78
15. Dan James: 75
16. Amad Diallo: 74
17. Brandon Williams: 68
18. Eric Bailly: 77
19. Phil Jones: 74
20. Alex Telles: 78
21. Matic: 79
22. Mata: 78
23. Tuanzebe: 76
24. Donny Van De Beek: 78
25. Shoretire: 66
 

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They're not. We've a decent squad which will compete for top 4 next year. We probably over performed a little in the league this year but were found out in Europe.

Looking at your scores, I can only imagine sides like City have 95s across the board, without being a particularly amazing team in historical terms. By those rankings you would have to go above 100 to rate great teams of years gone by.

Making players like De Gea 80+ rated on the back of their performances this year is ridiculous. With the clear deficiencies in his game, rating him 85 on current form means someone like Buffon or Schmeichel in their prime would need to be rated 120+.

If Pogba is 88 and Bailly is 81, then Iniesta would be 135 and Maldini 150.
High player abilities doesn't mean you're guaranteed to win titles. Other factors, such as form, tactics, fitness and chemistry comes to mind.

I think generally, PL level players should be rated above 80, particularly in top 6 sides.

To put De Gea, suddenly as 60 is just not realistic, at least for me.

EDIT:
I mean, to put into perspective, the best Malaysian player: Safawi Rashid, I'd rate him 64 at best, and he should be playing in league 1 as his highest level.
Giving rating to players, we should always take other factors such as how high their level of competition.

United finished 2nd, with form issues and fitness. Overall we should be mostly above 80.
 

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High player abilities doesn't mean you're guaranteed to win titles. Other factors, such as form, tactics, fitness and chemistry comes to mind.

I think generally, PL level players should be rated above 80, particularly in top 6 sides.

To put De Gea, suddenly as 60 is just not realistic, at least for me.
It's not suddenly. You asked in your OP to rate players based on this seasons performances. To rate him higher, you are basing your rating on previous performances.

And my rankings weren't based on winning titles to be fair, but the individual attributes I broke each down to.

Look at someone like Wan-Bissaka - I've given him the very high rating he deserves for tackling, but I couldn't rate him higher for positioning or attacking.
 

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It's not suddenly. You asked in your OP to rate players based on this seasons performances. To rate him higher, you are basing your rating on previous performances.
Yes, I didn't disagree, just having a laugh at how interesting I'm reading other posters evaluation.

I already agreed that your rating is based purely on performance/consistency this season, I'm not going to dispute that.
 
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1. De Gea : 92
2. Dean Henderson: 80
3. AWB: 80
4. Luke Shaw: 90
5. Lindelof: 83
6. Maguire: 87
7. Fred: 79
8. Mctominay: 63
9. Pogba: 94
10. Bruno: 92
11. Martial: 86
12. Rashford: 86
13. Cavani: 88
14. Greenwood: 81
15. Dan James: 60
16. Amad Diallo: 77
17. Brandon Williams: 61
18. Eric Bailly: 81
19. Phil Jones: 65
20. Alex Telles: 75
21. Matic: 77
22. Mata: 74
23. Tuanzebe: 74
24. Donny Van De Beek: 83
25. Shoretire: 69
If this was actually reflective of our squad, we would’ve won the league at a canter. Anything above 85 is indisputably world class, anything above 90 is GOAT tier. We do not have 8 world class players & 4 GOAT level players in our squad :lol:
 

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Honest to god, I cant remember the last time a footballer pissed me off so much, Its lucky Im not manager or he would never have played for me again after that :lol:
But De Gea is that kind of guy, when you're so mad at him, you want to face him off and fecking let it all out...but he seems too innocent. Sorry Amigo, next time.

And then you go back home and vent your anger in internet forum.
 

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I am baffled as to what folks on this forum are seeing with regards to Pogba?
He either cannot be arsed or actually puts in a terrible performance in a good percentage of games yet he gets praise?
I don’t care how talented he is, these are the facts.
 

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1. De Gea : 82
2. Dean Henderson: 82
3. AWB: 81
4. Luke Shaw: 85
5. Lindelof: 80
6. Maguire: 86
7. Fred: 81
8. McTominay: 80
9. Pogba: 86
10. Bruno: 89
11. Martial: 81
12. Rashford: 85
13. Cavani: 84
14. Greenwood: 82
15. Dan James: 77
16. Amad Diallo: 76
17. Brandon Williams: 74
18. Eric Bailly: 80
19. Phil Jones: 72
20. Alex Telles: 80
21. Matic: 77
22. Mata: 78
23. Tuanzebe: 77
24. Donny Van De Beek: 80
25. Shoretire: 74

26. Sancho 85
 

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If this was actually reflective of our squad, we would’ve won the league at a canter. Anything above 85 is indisputably world class, anything above 90 is GOAT tier. We do not have 8 world class players & 4 GOAT level players in our squad :lol:
95+ are goats for me. 90-95 are among best players on their positions in the world. 85-89 class players. 80-84 solid players. Under 80- dross. By my standards for United anyway.

Pogba and Bruno are world class. Shaw is top left back now. De Gea...i know that i overrate him but feck it; i am delusional towards him. Martial? I am sucker for skill. You have skill? That is extra 5 points for you. No skill? Minus 20 points. ( Sorry Scott and Dan) :wenger: .