Rate United players in your 99 overall rating.

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1. De Gea : 83
2. Dean Henderson: 81
3. AWB: 83
4. Luke Shaw: 88
5. Lindelof: 81
6. Maguire: 89
7. Fred: 83
8. Mctominay: 84
9. Pogba: 88
10. Bruno: 89
11. Martial: 83
12. Rashford: 85
13. Cavani: 85
14. Greenwood: 83
15. Dan James: 79
16. Amad Diallo: 74
17. Brandon Williams: 77
18. Eric Bailly: 82
19. Phil Jones: 76
20. Alex Telles: 76
21. Matic: 78
22. Mata: 76
23. Tuanzebe: 80
24. Donny Van De Beek: 79
25. Shoretire: 72
 

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De Gea 83

AWB 80
Lindelof 80
Maguire 84
Shaw 83

Scotty 81
Fred 81
Bruno 89

Greenwood 81
Cavani 84
Rashford 83
 

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Haha this is fun! Let's try our 2007-08 first eleven:

Van Der Sar: 90

O'Shea: 85
Vidic: 91
Ferdinand: 91
Evra: 90

Carrick: 87
Scholes: 88 (at that age. 93+ earlier in his career.)
Hargreaves: 86

Rooney: 90
Ronaldo: 93
Tevez: 89
 

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1. De Gea : 81
2. Dean Henderson: 82
3. AWB: 82
4. Luke Shaw: 87
5. Lindelof: 78
6. Maguire: 84
7. Fred: 79
8. Mctominay: 78
9. Pogba: 88
10. Bruno: 89
11. Martial: 82
12. Rashford: 85
13. Cavani: 84
14. Greenwood: 81
15. Dan James: 74
16. Amad Diallo: 88
17. Brandon Williams: 70
18. Eric Bailly: 76
19. Phil Jones: 69
20. Alex Telles: 79
21. Matic: 77
22. Mata: 75
23. Tuanzebe: 74
24. Donny Van De Beek: 74
25. Shoretire: 66
 

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1. De Gea : 79
2. Dean Henderson: 78
3. AWB: 80
4. Luke Shaw: 84
5. Lindelof: 78
6. Maguire: 85
7. Fred: 76
8. Mctominay: 78
9. Pogba: 85
10. Bruno: 89
11. Martial: 74
12. Rashford: 78
13. Cavani: 87
14. Greenwood: 80
15. Dan James: 71
16. Amad Diallo: 70
17. Brandon Williams: 67
18. Eric Bailly: 75
19. Phil Jones: ??
20. Alex Telles: 80
21. Matic: 74
22. Mata: 75
23. Tuanzebe: 77
24. Donny Van De Beek: 79
25. Shoretire: Not seen enough
 

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doing things a bit differently:
  • First # grade ——> what I felt the players top level capability to perform was heading into this year
  • Second # grade ——> how I feel said player played in correlation to their own capability by the end of this year
  • Last # grade = plus/minus or no difference in brackets (AKA players with bigger minus differentials show they underperformed more and the lesser, same, or positive differentials means they either underperformed slightly, played to their level, or exceeded my expectations of them by the end of this year)


HENDERSON: 84 ——> 82 (-2)
DDG: 86 ——> 78 (-8)

SHAW: 84 ——> 88 (+4)
MAGUIRE: 85 ——> 86 (+1)
AWB: 83 ——> 85 (+2)
TELLES: 85 ——> 84 (-1)
BAILLY: 81 ——> 81 (0)
AXEL: 77 ——> 79 (+2)
LINDELOF: 81 ——> 78 (-3)
WILLIAMS: 77 ——> 77 (0)

BRUNO: 89 ——> 91 (+2)
POGBA: 87 ——> 87 (0)
FRED: 82 ——> 82 (0)
MCTOMINAY: 83 ——> 82 (-1)
VDB: 81 ——> 81 (0)
MATIC: 80 ——> 79 (-1)
MATA: 78 ——> 78 (0)

CAVANI: 83 ——> 89 (+6)
RASHFORD: 88 ——> 87 (-1)
GREENWOOD: 83 ——> 85 (+2)
MARTIAL: 88 ——> 84 (-4)
AMAD: 74 ——> 77 (+3)
JAMES: 79 ——> 77 (-2)
SHORETIRE: 70 ——> 73 (+3)
ELANGA: 70 ——> 73 (+3)



...hoping I didn’t do any injustices but what I can say without doubt is this is what I truly personally felt as I went over this. Separated the players into 4 groups (goalkeepers, defenders, midfielders & attacking forwards/wingers). No biases or favouritism or hate, just thoroughly tried as best as I could with the criteria I laid out and decided to go with. Sort of puts things into perspective and really opened my own eyes as I went through it.

imo, De Gea-Martial-Lindelof were the biggest underperformers on the squad whereas on the flip side, Cavani+Shaw+trio of academy attackers had the most exceeded expectations. Everyone else for the most part either stayed at their level or slightly exceeded or underperformed.

My biggest takeaways/stories from this season’s evaluations,

- De Gea had an awful awful drop in form
- Henderson’s first season was a bit shaky, might have to do with the bigger spotlight but not worried yet with how talented he’s shown in his loan spell. Fully expecting him to bounce back and shake off the nerves
- Martial was underwhelming considering the stellar season he had the previous campaign
- Telles’ arrival really elevated Shaw’s game to a whole new level which I don’t think anyone expected
- Lindelof showed that he is not the long term starting CB partner solution to Maguire
- AWB slowly but steadily made offensive strides by learning to join the attack and support
- Cavani found the fountain of youth while simultaneously breaking the Ronaldo #7 curse, an absolutely spectacular season going above and beyond what anyone ever would have imagined
 
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Is this like the FIFA ratings for players? Why the ratings so high? No one fails?
 

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1. De Gea : 83
2. Dean Henderson: 80
3. AWB: 80
4. Luke Shaw: 85
5. Lindelof: 80
6. Maguire: 86
7. Fred: 81
8. Mctominay: 82
9. Pogba: 86
10. Bruno: 90
11. Martial: 82
12. Rashford: 85
13. Cavani: 86
14. Greenwood: 83
15. Dan James: 75
16. Amad Diallo: 75
17. Brandon Williams: 75
18. Eric Bailly: 80
19. Phil Jones: 70
20. Alex Telles: 80
21. Matic: 80
22. Mata: 80
23. Tuanzebe: 78
24. Donny Van De Beek: 81
25. Shoretire: 74
 

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doing things a bit differently:
  • First # grade ——> what I felt the players top level capability to perform was heading into this year
  • Second # grade ——> how I feel said player played in correlation to their own capability by the end of this year
  • Last # grade = plus/minus or no difference in brackets (AKA players with bigger minus differentials show they underperformed more and the lesser, same, or positive differentials means they either underperformed slightly, played to their level, or exceeded my expectations of them by the end of this year)


HENDERSON: 84 ——> 82 (-2)
DDG: 86 ——> 78 (-8)

SHAW: 84 ——> 88 (+4)
MAGUIRE: 85 ——> 86 (+1)
AWB: 83 ——> 85 (+2)
TELLES: 85 ——> 84 (-1)
BAILLY: 81 ——> 81 (0)
AXEL: 77 ——> 79 (+2)
LINDELOF: 81 ——> 78 (-3)
WILLIAMS: 77 ——> 77 (0)

BRUNO: 89 ——> 91 (+2)
POGBA: 87 ——> 87 (0)
FRED: 82 ——> 82 (0)
MCTOMINAY: 83 ——> 82 (-1)
VDB: 81 ——> 81 (0)
MATIC: 80 ——> 79 (-1)
MATA: 78 ——> 78 (0)

CAVANI: 83 ——> 89 (+6)
RASHFORD: 88 ——> 87 (-1)
GREENWOOD: 83 ——> 85 (+2)
MARTIAL: 88 ——> 84 (-4)
AMAD: 74 ——> 77 (+3)
JAMES: 79 ——> 77 (-2)
SHORETIRE: 70 ——> 73 (+3)
ELANGA: 70 ——> 73 (+3)



...hoping I didn’t do any injustices but what I can say without doubt is this is what I truly personally felt as I went over this. Separated the players into 4 groups (goalkeepers, defenders, midfielders & attacking forwards/wingers). No biases or favouritism or hate, just thoroughly tried as best as I could with the criteria I laid out and decided to go with. Sort of puts things into perspective and really opened my own eyes as I went through it.

imo, De Gea-Martial-Lindelof were the biggest underperformers on the squad whereas on the flip side, Cavani+Shaw+trio of academy attackers had the most exceeded expectations. Everyone else for the most part either stayed at their level or slightly exceeded or underperformed.

My biggest takeaways/stories from this season’s evaluations,

- De Gea had an awful awful drop in form
- Henderson’s first season was a bit shaky, might have to do with the bigger spotlight but not worried yet with how talented he’s shown in his loan spell. Fully expecting him to bounce back and shake off the nerves
- Martial was underwhelming considering the stellar season he had the previous campaign
- Telles’ arrival really elevated Shaw’s game to a whole new level which I don’t think anyone expected
- Lindelof showed that he is not the long term starting CB partner solution to Maguire
- AWB slowly but steadily made offensive strides by learning to join the attack and support
- Cavani found the fountain of youth while simultaneously breaking the Ronaldo #7 curse, an absolutely spectacular season going above and beyond what anyone ever would have imagined

Like this, but AWB despite his defensive solidity (particularly in tackling), has several weaknesses this season.

I think he has improved attacking wise, but his defending this season, especially in set pieces and aerial prowess has been worrying so far.

At best he should 81, that's just because he is so good defending one on ones. If he is 85 like you mentioned, he should've been on the plane to Euros.
 

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I’ve tried to do this broadly in line with FIFAs approach to ratings and then adjusted depending on how they performed this season:

1. De Gea : 77
2. Dean Henderson: 79
3. AWB: 81
4. Luke Shaw: 86
5. Lindelof: 77
6. Maguire: 86
7. Fred: 78
8. Mctominay: 80
9. Pogba: 85
10. Bruno: 88
11. Martial: 79
12. Rashford: 84
13. Cavani: 84
14. Greenwood: 80
15. Dan James: 73
16. Amad Diallo: 71
17. Brandon Williams: 72
18. Eric Bailly: 78
19. Phil Jones: 75
20. Alex Telles: 80
21. Matic: 79
22. Mata: 77
23. Tuanzebe: 78
24. Donny Van De Beek: 77
25. Shoretire: 71
 

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Seaman. 85
Ferdinand. 97 (goat defender. Only Maldini is 99)
Campbell. 93
Cole. 93
Neville. 88
Lampard. 93
Scholes. 95
Gerrard. 93
Beckham. 94
Rooney.95
Owen. 90

How the feck this team won nothing?
 

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Have to say, I can't agree with Bruno being consistently rated above both Pogba and Rashford.

Over their careers the latter 2 have shown more, both at Utd and in football in general.
 

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Seaman. 85
Ferdinand. 97 (goat defender. Only Maldini is 99)
Campbell. 93
Cole. 93
Neville. 88
Lampard. 93
Scholes. 95
Gerrard. 93
Beckham. 94
Rooney.95
Owen. 90

How the feck this team won nothing?
Every player must drop 10 points when representing England.

Also, any German or Spanish sides auto get +5 per player when playing in Europe competitions.
 

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De Gea 80
Henderson 77
A.W.B 79
Lindelof 80
Maguire 85
Shaw 87
Telles 78
Bailly 77
Tuanzebe 75
Williams 73
Matic 74
Fred 78
Mctom 79
Pogba 86
V.D.B 77
Bruno 88
Rashford 85
Cavani 83
Greenwood 81
Martial 75
James 74
Diallo 75.

No-one else has plays enough to make a fair mark on.
 

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1. De Gea : 83
2. Dean Henderson: 79
3. AWB: 80
4. Luke Shaw: 87
5. Lindelof: 78
6. Maguire: 85
7. Fred: 79
8. Mctominay: 79
9. Pogba: 86
10. Bruno: 87
11. Martial: 80
12. Rashford: 83
13. Cavani: 86
14. Greenwood: 82
15. Dan James: 76
16. Amad Diallo: 74
17. Brandon Williams: 70
18. Eric Bailly: 78
19. Phil Jones: 70
20. Alex Telles: 77
21. Matic: 76
22. Mata: 77
23. Tuanzebe: 74
24. Donny Van De Beek: 80
25. Shoretire: 70
 

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Like this, but AWB despite his defensive solidity (particularly in tackling), has several weaknesses this season.

I think he has improved attacking wise, but his defending this season, especially in set pieces and aerial prowess has been worrying so far.

At best he should 81, that's just because he is so good defending one on ones. If he is 85 like you mentioned, he should've been on the plane to Euros.
I think he’s such an expert in the defensive aspect of the game that it overrides a lot of what he lacks elsewhere and makes his rating high as a result of that. Similar to TAA as he’s so crisp offensively, you can say AWB in a sense is the inverse Trent.

Fair play if you don’t rate him as highly. My reason is due to his immense ability defensively. Start him and you just know the opposing teams LW won’t be causing many problems all game.

...as for the Euros bit, comes down to managerial preference. There have been lots of snubs currently and historically of quality players for one reason or another. By no means does it dictate how well a player is :)
 

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1. De Gea : 83

2. Dean Henderson: 83

3. AWB: 81

4. Luke Shaw: 85

5. Lindelof: 81

6. Maguire: 85

7. Fred: 80

8. Mctominay: 80

9. Pogba: 84

10. Bruno: 88

11. Martial: 77

12. Rashford: 81

13. Cavani: 85

14. Greenwood: 82

15. Dan James: 72

16. Amad Diallo: 73

17. Brandon Williams: 67

18. Eric Bailly: 78

19. Phil Jones: 70

20. Alex Telles: 79

21. Matic: 76

22. Mata: 76

23. Tuanzebe: 77

24. Donny Van De Beek: 78
 

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Then you might as well follow football manager and look at their current ability (CA) and potential ability (PA) where PA is always higher or equal to CA at any time.
 

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doing things a bit differently:
  • First # grade ——> what I felt the players top level capability to perform was heading into this year
  • Second # grade ——> how I feel said player played in correlation to their own capability by the end of this year
  • Last # grade = plus/minus or no difference in brackets (AKA players with bigger minus differentials show they underperformed more and the lesser, same, or positive differentials means they either underperformed slightly, played to their level, or exceeded my expectations of them by the end of this year)


HENDERSON: 84 ——> 82 (-2)
DDG: 86 ——> 78 (-8)

SHAW: 84 ——> 88 (+4)
MAGUIRE: 85 ——> 86 (+1)
AWB: 83 ——> 85 (+2)
TELLES: 85 ——> 84 (-1)
BAILLY: 81 ——> 81 (0)
AXEL: 77 ——> 79 (+2)
LINDELOF: 81 ——> 78 (-3)
WILLIAMS: 77 ——> 77 (0)

BRUNO: 89 ——> 91 (+2)
POGBA: 87 ——> 87 (0)
FRED: 82 ——> 82 (0)
MCTOMINAY: 83 ——> 82 (-1)
VDB: 81 ——> 81 (0)
MATIC: 80 ——> 79 (-1)
MATA: 78 ——> 78 (0)

CAVANI: 83 ——> 89 (+6)
RASHFORD: 88 ——> 87 (-1)
GREENWOOD: 83 ——> 85 (+2)
MARTIAL: 88 ——> 84 (-4)
AMAD: 74 ——> 77 (+3)
JAMES: 79 ——> 77 (-2)
SHORETIRE: 70 ——> 73 (+3)
ELANGA: 70 ——> 73 (+3)



...hoping I didn’t do any injustices but what I can say without doubt is this is what I truly personally felt as I went over this. Separated the players into 4 groups (goalkeepers, defenders, midfielders & attacking forwards/wingers). No biases or favouritism or hate, just thoroughly tried as best as I could with the criteria I laid out and decided to go with. Sort of puts things into perspective and really opened my own eyes as I went through it.

imo, De Gea-Martial-Lindelof were the biggest underperformers on the squad whereas on the flip side, Cavani+Shaw+trio of academy attackers had the most exceeded expectations. Everyone else for the most part either stayed at their level or slightly exceeded or underperformed.

My biggest takeaways/stories from this season’s evaluations,

- De Gea had an awful awful drop in form
- Henderson’s first season was a bit shaky, might have to do with the bigger spotlight but not worried yet with how talented he’s shown in his loan spell. Fully expecting him to bounce back and shake off the nerves
- Martial was underwhelming considering the stellar season he had the previous campaign
- Telles’ arrival really elevated Shaw’s game to a whole new level which I don’t think anyone expected
- Lindelof showed that he is not the long term starting CB partner solution to Maguire
- AWB slowly but steadily made offensive strides by learning to join the attack and support
- Cavani found the fountain of youth while simultaneously breaking the Ronaldo #7 curse, an absolutely spectacular season going above and beyond what anyone ever would have imagined
With this approach, my biggest disappointments have been Rashford and Martial.
 

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1. De Gea : 92
2. Dean Henderson: 80
3. AWB: 80
4. Luke Shaw: 90
5. Lindelof: 83
6. Maguire: 87
7. Fred: 79
8. Mctominay: 63
9. Pogba: 94
10. Bruno: 92
11. Martial: 86
12. Rashford: 86
13. Cavani: 88
14. Greenwood: 81
15. Dan James: 60
16. Amad Diallo: 77
17. Brandon Williams: 61
18. Eric Bailly: 81
19. Phil Jones: 65
20. Alex Telles: 75
21. Matic: 77
22. Mata: 74
23. Tuanzebe: 74
24. Donny Van De Beek: 83
25. Shoretire: 69
This doesn't sound like unreasonable bias at all - Worse than Phil Jones.
 

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De Gea 86
AWB 83
Maguire 84
Lindelof 82
Shaw 86
Mctominay 81
Fred 79
Fernandes 89
Pogba 87
Rashford 85
Cavani 86

Greenwood 83
Henderson 82
Matic 80
Martial 82
DVB 81
 

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1. De Gea : 83

2. Dean Henderson: 83

3. AWB: 81

4. Luke Shaw: 85

5. Lindelof: 81

6. Maguire: 85

7. Fred: 80

8. Mctominay: 80

9. Pogba: 84

10. Bruno: 88

11. Martial: 77

12. Rashford: 81

13. Cavani: 85

14. Greenwood: 82

15. Dan James: 72

16. Amad Diallo: 73

17. Brandon Williams: 67

18. Eric Bailly: 78

19. Phil Jones: 70

20. Alex Telles: 79

21. Matic: 76

22. Mata: 76

23. Tuanzebe: 77

24. Donny Van De Beek: 78
Very reasonable tbf
 

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Seaman. 85
Ferdinand. 97 (goat defender. Only Maldini is 99)
Campbell. 93
Cole. 93
Neville. 88
Lampard. 93
Scholes. 95
Gerrard. 93
Beckham. 94
Rooney.95
Owen. 90

How the feck this team won nothing?
Because you have massively overrated nearly everyone.
 

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Very reasonable tbf
I think so :)
Some parts are sometimes better than the summary of the individual players.
Redcafe either has very low standards or massively overrate some of our players.
United were comfortably second best team in the worlds best league. I don’t see how that’s possible with a team where most players aren’t 80+ on this scale.
 

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I think so :)
Some parts are sometimes better than the summary of the individual players.

United were comfortably second best team in the worlds best league. I don’t see how that’s possible with a team where most players aren’t 80+ on this scale.
Well at the moment we are in a situation where there just are not many good teams.

We are also not comfortably 2nd at all. Chelsea are arguably better with their new manager.
 

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1. De Gea: 78
2. Dean Henderson: 79
3. AWB: 81
4. Luke Shaw: 84
5. Lindelof: 79
6. Maguire:86
7. Fred: 79
8. McTominay: 80
9. Pogba: 84
10. Bruno: 89
11. Martial: 80
12. Rashford: 84
13. Cavani: 86
14. Greenwood: 79
15. Dan James: 74
16. Amad Diallo: 73
17. Brandon Williams: 71
18. Eric Bailly: 77
19. Phil Jones: 70
20. Alex Telles: 77
21. Matic: 75
22. Mata: 75
23. Tuanzebe: 74
24. Donny Van De Beek: 79
25. Shoretire: 66
 

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Well at the moment we are in a situation where there just are not many good teams.

We are also not comfortably 2nd at all. Chelsea are arguably better with their new manager.
It was quite comfortable, no one came really close despite the fact that we slowed down at the end and also played the kids. Before that the distance to Chelsea was about 10-11points which is the same as the day Tuchel took over after Lampard.
 

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It was quite comfortable, no one came really close despite the fact that we slowed down at the end and also played the kids. Before that the distance to Chelsea was about 10-11points which is the same as the day Tuchel took over after Lampard.
We were slowing down before we started playing kids. That's just nonsense.
 

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I’m too old to know much about FIFA-ratings and what it actually means, but I sure as shit know Harry Maguire isn’t on the same level as Paul Pogba. For shame!
 

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We were slowing down before we started playing kids. That's just nonsense.
I’m not sure what you’re talking about. With four matches left we started playing the kids, and then you could see how the players were not really there 100% in the final games. Before that we were on par with Chelsea since Tuchel arrived.
 

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I’m not sure what you’re talking about. With four matches left we started playing the kids, and then you could see how the players were not really there 100% in the final games. Before that we were on par with Chelsea since Tuchel arrived.
https://www.google.com/search?q=uni...F-8#sie=m;/g/11mxf44b2m;2;/m/01hrtp;ln;fp;1;;

https://www.google.com/search?q=uni...TF-8#sie=m;/g/11hjlhv3fq;2;/m/02_tc;ln;fp;1;;

https://www.google.com/search?q=uni...TF-8#sie=m;/g/11knpgk0_t;2;/m/02_tc;ln;fp;1;;

https://www.google.com/search?q=uni...F-8#sie=m;/g/11pbjftwq4;2;/m/01hrtp;ln;fp;1;;

https://www.google.com/search?q=uni...TF-8#sie=m;/g/11hjlpx_fy;2;/m/02_tc;ln;fp;1;;

5 of our last 7 games with a full lineup (maybe 1 player out) and a poor performance.
 

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I’m really not following you. I wrote that our last matches, after we secured top-4, we either didn’t really bother or we played the kids (yes kids in two matches). But before those games, we were pretty much on par with Chelsea since Tuchel arrived.
I’m really not going to repeat this message any more now.
 

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I’m really not following you. I wrote that our last matches, after we secured top-4, we either didn’t really bother or we played the kids (yes kids in two matches). But before those games, we were pretty much on par with Chelsea since Tuchel arrived.
I’m really not going to repeat this message any more now.
Not really. Chelsea had better results and knocked out City and Real Madrid to win the CL. We got made to look stupid by Villarreal.