No, there were no CTs doing the rounds, just a feeling that if after that start the best we could manage was forth, we were probably never going to win the damn thing. oh how wrong we were.
RAWK Goes Into Meltdown (2009/10)
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All I can hear is bladebladebla. I caught you out by quoting you Krafty, be a man and put your hands up.
I've never denied you weren't close in terms of points. It was the cirsumstances in your favour which often go unnoticed by your success deprived fans.
Ah well, you still couldn't win it even with all that, so it matters not in any case.
What, like having two warring skint yanks in charge? Oh aye, great circumstances they are...
It's starting to look like Rafa actually worked a miracle last year getting as close as he did with the squad he has. Scratch beneath the surface of the first 13 and the cupboard is bare, it's the depth of your squad as much as anything else made the difference last year.
In my opinion like.
Skint yanks that have seen Liverpool become easily the biggest spenders outside the uber-wealth of Chelsea and Man City. Poor you.
If your squad's bare, it's feck all to do with money (of which you've spent an obscene amount), and everything to do with the shite signings your joke of a manager has made, leaving you in a perpetual state of mediocrity and transition.
But yes, keep blaming the yanks, or Parry, or the FA, or the manc conspiracy which stops you winning your deserved treble every year. Anyone but Rafa. You're becoming the stereotype Murph. Break the mould and stop being a sheep. He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy.
Last time I checked the man responsible for the quality of your squad, to include the bench, was none other than savior Benitez.What, like having two warring skint yanks in charge? Oh aye, great circumstances they are...
It's starting to look like Rafa actually worked a miracle last year getting as close as he did with the squad he has. Scratch beneath the surface of the first 13 and the cupboard is bare, it's the depth of your squad as much as anything else made the difference last year.
In my opinion like.
I don't know what happened to the collective psyche of Liverpool supporter, but you're unending defense of your shite manager and his terrible squad/man management is beyond silly at this point. The insistence to blame everything, and at this point that literally means almost anything, besides your manager for any of your woes is something to behold.
The funny thing is, I wager to guess that almost every United fan is right behind you in your support of Rafa, but only because we know that with him at the helm, your league drought will only continue.
I say we all join hands and pray to the stars and beam our thoughts to Jabba the Benitez that he may long man the rudder at LFC!
K.R.A.P. !
it fecking pisses me off!
Oh dear you've reverted to type. Knew it wouldn't last.
The Liverpool fan whinging about money and blaming the yanks for everything says I've reverted to type.
Good one Murph, you spastic.
I can't wait to see when their fans start to turn on Benitez
murphman, what are your thoughts about the big " conspiracy " which everyone on RAWK seems to believe?
Right one last go at it.
Ferguson was at the club 7 years during which time he built his squad. He's a brilliant manger (obviously) and has tweaked it with kids coming through, some astute signings and a, more or less massive money signing every year or so. And fair play to the old bastard, much as it hurts mne to say it.
Rafa has had to revamp everything bar Gerrard and Carragher. Ignoring the sub say £4m signings of which we've had to make zillions, some of which have been outstanding successes there's been quite a few flops, that's the way it goes. But.
Give us your list of United signings over say £15m and I'll come back with ours.
You might get the point then about financiial backing. Plus of course everybody goes on about transfer fees when they actually aren't athe be all and end all everybody forgets the wage bill.
Anyway, I know I'm wasting my breath so bollocks to the lot of yers.
so basically you're saying that liverpool are really better than united because we've had more money to spend?
I used to not understand what they meant when they said the teams against them, then one of them explained it to me. In the grand pot of conspiracies, there are teams which are run by Ex-united players, have former united players playing, or intentional obtained United players on loan so that when United are playing such teams, the said players will aid us.
If the coach was a former United player, he will not select his best players, if the player is a former United player, he will score an own goal or give away a penalty or a poor back pass.
They really do see these things because they want to believe whatever they are saying.
Our mind can sometimes play tricks on us if we don't control it.
Jesus Christ that is messed up....but also actually true. There's United agents everywhere
Since Rafa took over, Fergie's had to revamp everything at United as well. Compared to 2004, our squad is virtually unrecognisable. A few oldies, only a couple of whom who are of any real use anymore, and a couple of other signed players are the only remaining faces.
We've spent less in that time, and won far far more. And don't give me this better starting point bollocks. We were third in '04, you were fourth, we were both miles off the pace. And let's not forget it was Houllier's squad who won you your only enviable achievement of the last 20 years, so it can't have been that bad.
It's Rafa's choice who he signs. If he didn't make so many mistakes he'd be in a position to spend more on specific players but because he continues to make abysmal signings like Keane and Dosenna, you're left in a perpetual state of transition, needing to fill these gaps in your squad with cheap signings, because you've wasted so much money.
What like paying Glen Johnson £139,000 a week making him the highest paid full-back in Europe?
Now that is true.
this.Since Rafa took over, Fergie's had to revamp everything at United as well. Compared to 2004, our squad is virtually unrecognisable. A few oldies, only a couple of whom who are of any real use anymore, and a couple of other signed players are the only remaining faces.
We've spent less in that time, and won far far more. And don't give me this better starting point bollocks. We were third in '04, you were fourth, we were both miles off the pace. And let's not forget it was Houllier's squad who won you your only enviable achievement of the last 20 years, so it can't have been that bad.
It's Rafa's choice who he signs. If he didn't make so many mistakes he'd be in a position to spend more on specific players but because he continues to make abysmal signings like Keane and Dosenna, you're left in a perpetual state of transition, needing to fill these gaps in your squad with cheap signings, because you've wasted so much money.
What like paying Glen Johnson £139,000 a week making him the highest paid full-back in Europe?
Aren't Torres and Gerrard on less than that? That can't be true.Since Rafa took over, Fergie's had to revamp everything at United as well. Compared to 2004, our squad is virtually unrecognisable. A few oldies, only a couple of whom who are of any real use anymore, and a couple of other signed players are the only remaining faces.
We've spent less in that time, and won far far more. And don't give me this better starting point bollocks. We were third in '04, you were fourth, we were both miles off the pace. And let's not forget it was Houllier's squad who won you your only enviable achievement of the last 20 years, so it can't have been that bad.
It's Rafa's choice who he signs. If he didn't make so many mistakes he'd be in a position to spend more on specific players but because he continues to make abysmal signings like Keane and Dosenna, you're left in a perpetual state of transition, needing to fill these gaps in your squad with cheap signings, because you've wasted so much money.
What like paying Glen Johnson £139,000 a week making him the highest paid full-back in Europe?
glen johnson is paid £139,000? seriously?
Apparently so.
REVEALED: Liverpool handed Glen Johnson £139,000-a-week deal to beat off competition from Chelsea | Mail Online
And with alot of Liverpool's biggest earners getting improved deals this summer, and with us cutting two of our biggest earners from the wage-bill (Ronaldo and Tevez), I wouldn't be surprised if they've overtaken us on that front too.
Those wages are ridiculous.
No proof whatsoever and Johnson didn't even want to move to Chelsea after his nightmare time there before. If Ashley Cole has just been given 120 k a week, chelsea would have offered johnson about 100k at the very maximum. There would be no need for Liverpool to pay 40% more
Sorry but using at article like that to back up any argument is RAWK-worthy.Ridiculous, but hardly surprising. They paid £17m for him, and he can't even defend. What's £139,000 a week when you're willing to pay that.Those wages are ridiculous.
Liverpool fans like Murph will paint of picture of pauperism and hardship, when the reality is the exact opposite. It's beyond obscene.
Liverpol had a resonable season last term in spite of having Rafa in charge and without him they just might have won it.He is more to blame for the current mess than the yanks,the mans not wise.Long may he continue as Liverpool boss
That's surely bullshit.
Even Rafa, with his reputation of spending like a drunken sailor would not pay Johnson those wages on top of the fee.
Even Rafa, with his reputation of spending like a drunken sailor would not pay Johnson those wages on top of the fee.
No proof whatsoever and Johnson didn't even want to move to Chelsea after his nightmare time there before. If Ashley Cole has just been given 120 k a week, chelsea would have offered johnson about 100k at the very maximum. There would be no need for Liverpool to pay 40% more
Yea, it's all a manc conspiracy.
I don't know if the article is true which is why I said 'apparently', but it wouldn't surprise me given what they spent on him in the first place.
This is not a poor club. Don't let them pull the wool over your eyes.
A 20 page thread about us losing...and you lot say that you're not obsessed. Hilarious!
Over a thousand posts on a Man United forum and you say you're not obsessed. Hilarious!
(Gets 'em every time).
It's actually got nowt to do with you losing and was started a month before the villa game was even played. Weirdo
It will be much longer as the season unfolds, you can be sure of that. And much more hilarious
Just had a look on RAWK and Andy's name has been changed to "Angry @ Allerton"
He is talking about Pages are you are talking about post? Not fair.
I have no idea what you're on about, honestly, I very rarely go on rawk. I presume it's something Andy has said, well all I can say is he's a right laugh in the boozer, great company and does a better 'that's life' than Frank ever did.
_Edit- That's Frank Spencer by the way.
fecking got that one right.No way he could answer to that
Exactly. Not to somebody who get's all their info from the papers though.Those wages are ridiculous.
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Isn't it funny how every Liverpool fan on here claims to not go on RAWK. A bit too convenient isn't it? I mean if ever there was a forum custom-built to suit a poster, it would be Murph and RAWK.
The mention of him on here just makes his day,we have made the tosser a cult hero on RAWK by constant references on the caf,please why cant we ignore this insignificant prickJust had a look on RAWK and Andy's name has been changed to "Angry @ Allerton"
How the hell does that logic apply then, and what 'current mess', it's August for feck's sake, we've played three games?
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