A bargain yes but anyone with half a brain cell would have bought him in those circumstances. Everyone knew at the time he liked Liverpool and wanted to play for them.
How much did he cost?
, so while you're here I'd love to hear your take on the whole anti-Liverpool conspiracy theory.Aye 26.5 is the general consensus, though most consider it 21m when you take into account Garcia going to Atletico for 4mil. So I suppose in reality it was 21mil plus Luis Garcia. Either way it was a good price, though if he doesn't win anything in his time at Liverpool then I won't be too bothered by it!
Conspiracy theories are ridiculous. The furthest I'd go is express an opinion that Alex Ferguson has nurtured a culture of ensuring United put pressure on referees to sometimes gain the benefit of any doubt, he invented the surrounding of referees and standing with his watch held high.Murphman -- I see your little green light
Why on earth would the FA, the referees, the press and many of the teams in the league work together to make sure United win the title?
That's the one question that needs an answer - WHY?
Because we pay them massive amounts to be on our side?
Because Liverpools reign during the 70s & 80s pissed off so many people they've now all decided they'll help United, come what may?
I know you're not one of the CTs, I'd just honestly like to hear your take on it as one of our resident scousers.
So who do you believe the offish or a newspaper? Garcia was signed for £6m, his sell on would have been much less than that sum, it's not 'generally accepted' at £26m at all.
why would the sell on be much less
Oh feck my old boots, depends how many beers I've had.Murph, are you bipolar? Or why do you reply to posts you've already replied to previously, except in a much more hostile tone this time?
https://www.redcafe.net/6776463-post811.html
Garcia is now on a free actually, he was just that bit older and wasn't worth what we paid for him. As far as anybody knows Torres was about £20m, he was only a couple of mill dearer than Hargreaves.
To be fair I think you deserve some sort of endurance award in this thread. Glad you have maintained humour. Despite being spasticated in your opinions.
)Fine. 20m. You wouldn't mind lending me a couple mill would you? Considering it's roughly zero give or take. Maybe Rafa counts all the useless 4 million or less purchases Rafa made as zero and then tallies them up and thinks he's wasted no money at all. Oh you know I'm just messing with you.
David Dein's clearly been working his magic again, even from his lounge chair.
Or manc cocksucker, just to cover everyone who might say something good about us.
Don't be daft Murph. Don Revie's Leeds players regularly ganged up on the referee when he gave a decision they didn't like. Dunno if Revie waved his watch around though.
They did, feckin ballbags all of them but despite that a mighty side. But there was lots of stuff went on in the 70's (like maiming people and getting away with it) died a natural death as the authorities toughened up.
Yes, because we've had players who 'maim' the opposition. Your side had Souness, and then later Neil Ruddock, Julian Dicks, and now the cynical but slightly less violent Carragher. I can think of very few, if any players we've had Murph who were 'maiming people' like your lot were. You won your titles in the eighties by defending solidly, counter attacking, and your defence kicking the shit out of the opposition's star players, and more.
Murph, don't you think it's funny that it's always the successful sides that have the finger pointed at them about referees? You've mentioned us, and Mourinho - let's not forget Arsenal either who were vilified for cheating and getting away with it during their successful years. Liverpool in the 80's weren't exactly free from the muck-slinging either. Time may have clouded your memory on that. You correctly admit that the conspiracies are paranoid bullshit though. Is that also an admission that Rafa is paranoid, seeing as it's his delusional rants which largely fuel the fire inside the more feeble-minded members of your support? And out of interest, who would you say benefited from referees more last season if you had to pick out one - United or Liverpool?
Whether it's £20m or what is quite irrelevant, because you're using Torres (one of Benitez's rare quality signings) to score a point against Hargreaves (£17m), who lest you forget, played an important role in our double winning season.
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tbf there was some poster who thought it was a pen.
Even Andy Gray thought it was a penalty.
You mean like a player being very harshly sent off when they're losing, allowing them to come back and win? No, that never happens for Liverpool
so did alan green
I think I just had a little heart attack!
I listened to most of it but you can't form a real opinion from the radio. However, I was not surprised to hear (Edit - not Wigan) Bolton went down to 10 men when Liverpool were still behind. They then scored within a couple of minutes to equalise. I don't know if the sending-off was justified but all I can say is I was not surprised to hear it.
