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really hate to explain jokes sorry skyrocket ehmElon Musk joke?
really hate to explain jokes sorry skyrocket ehmElon Musk joke?
That is absolutely not the case, but it's exactly the attitude they want you to have, and the reason they're looking to buy football clubs in the first place. Have you heard of sports washing? These states are buying football clubs specifically to distract from their human rights violations.Nobody nice has this sort of money. Take the Saudi money. If they're funding our transfers it's money not spent on wars and terrorism.
Oh it's way worse.That is absolutely not the case, but it's exactly the attitude they want you to have, and the reason they're looking to buy football clubs in the first place. Have you heard of sports washing? These states are buying football clubs specifically to distract from their human rights violations.
For me the Saudi's buying United is just as bad if not worse than the super league; it would certainly be the end of me supporting the club.
oh rocket, I see.really hate to explain jokes sorry skyrocket ehm
And he’s already stated that buying a football club( Man Utd) doesn’t make sense. He’s described the state of the club as shockingly poor, and Ineos won’t invest in something so dumb.Bought a good share of the Mercedes F1 last year, seems like a sound bloke.
I'd expect Glazers to get rid of any business which isn't "profitable enough", are there any signs of that happening though?It doesn't need to be one. Just put the entire shares in the stock market, and let people buy them.
If it has to be a single owner, I can see only MbS or some Chinese (possibly government-backed) businessman. We are too costly (and football is not profitable enough) for anything else except for people who would want United as a propaganda machine.
Or a large group of wealthy real fans?United are simply too expensive. Our selling price is mostly based on potential and little on actual profit. I also think that we're hitting the limit of what sponsorships can take us in terms of revenue. So we are either bought by the Saudis or someone like the Glazers ie people who will try to drive our profits up through 'unconventional ways'.
We're talking about billions of pounds here. How many insanely rich fans whose got tens of millions of pounds to spare does this club have? I met some rich people in my life and unless they inherited the money they tend to be rich for a reason.Or a large group of wealthy real fans?
If you are referring to MBS then a lot of fans would welcome them as saviours but the reality is that we would become a state owned propergannda machine to make a dodgy state look legitimate.The Saudi's are going to be all over his, this is their perfect chance to pounce. Whether that is what people want is another thing, but after this whole saga, I could well see alot of fans welcoming them for their rescue from the Glazers.
It's a bit worse than that, we are talking about small profits at a large cost for someone else. The only moment you make a huge profit is if/when you sell the club.Problem is we cost what, $4billion?
Reading this thread it sounds like people want an owner with Bezos money but Gandhi ethics - never going to happen.
We either get purchased by MBS or someone similar, or someone like the Glazers - basically buying us to make huge profits, do what exactly is the point in changing owners when it's going to be just as bad!
Then you have others suggesting a group of wealthy United supporters? Even then, the amount of fans it would take to cobble up 4billion would be mind blowing, and for those who know rich people, they tend to want to run the ship when investing the tiniest amount of money, let alone millions - even if we manage that scenario, do you think these people wouldn't be signing up every noodle sponsor they could to maximise profits?
The sport is too far gone, and we're "valued" way too high for a White Knight.
And that's exactly why we won't get purchased by a "regular" businessman - no one will be throwing down 4b with a further 500m for stadium refurbishment without looking to take more out of it than what the Glazers currently do (the Glazers bought us at the perfect time).It's a bit worse than that, we are talking about small profits at a large cost for someone else. The only moment you make a huge profit is if/when you sell the club.
Yup that's exactly how I see it. And to be frank, I wouldn't trust the common sense of a billionaire that purchases United for several billions just for the love of the game. He could do the same thing with a smallish club, Pinault is an example of that, he is wealthier than Ratcliffe and you won't catch him waste billions on a football team, he owns Rennes because it's the club of his hometown and can easily afford to keep it in Ligue 1.And that's exactly why we won't get purchased by a "regular" businessman - no one will be throwing down 4b with a further 500m for stadium refurbishment without looking to take more out of it than what the Glazers currently do (the Glazers bought us at the perfect time).
It's either a Sheik/insanely rich individual with shady morals which I think most agree would be terrible, stick with the Glazers, owners like the Glazers but probably taking more out to make the investment worthwhile or, wish for a unicorn - which seemingly everyone is pinning their hopes on.
Shame.
Yup, I don't know any Billionaires, but I know a few millionaires, and they usually get their money by buying smart businesses with huge room for growth, and they keep it by leaving their personal emotions put of business.Yup that's exactly how I see it. And to be frank, I wouldn't trust the common sense of a billionaire that purchases United for several billions just for the love of the game. He could do the same thing with a smallish club, Pinault is an example of that, he is wealthier than Ratcliffe and you won't catch him waste billions on a football team, he owns Rennes because it's the club of his hometown and can easily afford to keep it in Ligue 1.
Feck sake, no.. It's happening this time insha'a Allah.
if anyone is interested I wrote about him a little from a Saudi & Man United point of view/I think it's more appropriate to be discussed here.
No.MBS. It's happening this time insha'a Allah.
if anyone is interested I wrote about him a little from a Saudi & Man United point of view/I think it's more appropriate to be discussed here.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/turn-the-caf-green-and-gold.457837/page-6
Cheers!
Your prince is a murderous, pathetic, scumbag of a human being, no thanks. Have a nice day.MBS. It's happening this time insha'a Allah.
if anyone is interested I wrote about him a little from a Saudi & Man United point of view/I think it's more appropriate to be discussed here.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/turn-the-caf-green-and-gold.457837/page-6
Cheers!
Well it depends. This is why legislation and reform is needed.Let's be honest only Saudis have the Power to buy us.
They are taking 20m in dividends against a 4 billion market cap company, which is far less than most companies. The stock has gone significantly up but it is becoming increasingly clear that we are hitting a roof with regard to how higher it can go.I'd expect Glazers to get rid of any business which isn't "profitable enough", are there any signs of that happening though?
I think people underestimate how much it would cost to buy us. Simply having a group of 'wealthy' fans isn't going to cut it.Or a large group of wealthy real fans?
To be realistic only someone from the Middle East is able to buy us. The Chinese won't buy us because they are only in interested in making money. So it is going to be someone like MBS. I know that a lot of people do not like him because of his antics, but he would run the club professionally at least without taking money out of the club. yes he has been involved in a lot of nefarious activities but so has the governments of the USA and the UK or India and still people elect those kind of people to power.MBS. It's happening this time insha'a Allah.
if anyone is interested I wrote about him a little from a Saudi & Man United point of view/I think it's more appropriate to be discussed here.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/turn-the-caf-green-and-gold.457837/page-6
Cheers!
Then he can lure any offending referees to a third country where his goons can chop them up in pieces when they screw over United. Or next time there's a Super League proposed that other football leaders oppose, he can arrest or kidnap them and lock them up in a fancy hotel until they acquiesce.MBS. It's happening this time insha'a Allah.
if anyone is interested I wrote about him a little from a Saudi & Man United point of view/I think it's more appropriate to be discussed here.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/turn-the-caf-green-and-gold.457837/page-6
Cheers!
NO. He is a lunatic.Is it too unrealistic to expect a “MUST for Musk” campaign?
I’ll agree with you on that. He definitely seems to be someone who’s obsessed with the moon.NO. He is a lunatic.
Why does being english matter?Jim Ratcliffe would be the best outcome for all.
Manchester United fan.
English.
I just think the greedy parasites will ask for an unrealistic amount and rightfully Jim won't spend an unrealistic amount.