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50+1 isn't possible. Many don't want Saudis.
So now what?
So now what?
Agreed.Unless there’s an answer to this any protest is ultimately futile. You have to be prepared to accept the Saudis imo if we go down this road.
Who would be better? Who has been linked with us that would be able to afford us?Its just people being jealous of City that makes people think the Saudi's would be a better option. Feck that, they wouldn't.
You didn't ask me but personally, I would agree with Wenger's view that when someone seriously wants to buy a club they don't make a big thing out of it in the media.Who would be better? Who has been linked with us that would be able to afford us?
Nobody that I can think of / imagine.Who would be better? Who has been linked with us that would be able to afford us?
Yeah, you're probably correct.You didn't ask me but personally, I would agree with Wenger's view that when someone seriously wants to buy a club they don't make a big thing out of it in the media.
I expect if someone or a group eventually does make a realistic bid to buy the club, it's going to come out of left field.
True, but if some one was trying to make what would be the most expensive purchase of a sports team in history, that is really unlikely to be kept quite.You didn't ask me but personally, I would agree with Wenger's view that when someone seriously wants to buy a club they don't make a big thing out of it in the media.
I expect if someone or a group eventually does make a realistic bid to buy the club, it's going to come out of left field.
Massive name value, huge historical success, laughing stock today?Jerry Jones?
We become the cowboys of the PL
That pretty much sums it up mate. We are stuck with them regardless, for me, unless the club takes a massive plummet and decreases in value. We, without debt, would be entirely self sustainable and be able to keep up with the oil clubs if the owner didn't want to take money out but the initial outlay of 4 billion means that no one outside of someone like Musk or Bezos means we aren't worth it, even for the Saudis (who could just buy your club for next to noting and create a new 'City').Yeah, I was wondering from an outsider's point of view with who you guys (as a fanbase would want to buy the club). I think this is probably going to be the same case with Arsenal and Liverpool that there's not really anyone who could plausibly purchase these clubs for 3/4 billion outside the Saudi's.
To be fair I think they wiped out the opium fields...The Taliban.
Our transfer kitty will depend entirely on the opium fields and extortion industry in afghanistan.
They're no worse than the city owners in my book.
Maybe we could just murder all the other teams who are beating us once the Saudis take over.Yes I do and I would take them over The Glazers.
And as a result, none of them own Manchester United. You get what you pay for. If you want to own a ‘football club’, there are many. If your ego is such that you just have to own the biggest, well there’s only one.The only way there’s any hope of them selling is a huge drop in value. Without that there’s not business man on the planet who could pay the current valuation up front. Look at all other PL buy-outs. They snap clubs up when they’re in deep financial shit. Nobody pays full whack. Why would they?
How much damage, especially long-term, would that do to the club, though?It might sound cheesy but the power truly is in our hands as fans.
The only way to force a sale is to tear everything apart everyday that they remain. That means sustained protests, empty stadiums, media & merchandise boycotts.
Keep up that pressure and the bad PR will bury the share price. Lower the share price goes the lower the Glazer fortune is worth, something billionaires I imagine are quite sensitive about.
Once that spiral begins to take hold the only way to stop the bleeding is to sell, as far as I can see it.
How we unite such a disparate fan base to get behind such a movement is the question.
Do you want Man United competing with Mansour and al Thani. Those pair would not stop splashing the cash and in a 5 years time they'll be flying out of earth due to their continuous money splurge syndrome.Its just people being jealous of City that makes people think the Saudi's would be a better option. Feck that, they wouldn't.
Its not the Saudis as a nation, but more specifically Mohammad Bin Salman who's been linked with us, and the main source of concern. The man is a psychopathic, murdering scumbag who not only hacks dissenting journalists to death, but has started a war in Yemen that has led to hundreds of thousands dying and millions put at risk of starvation.While I am not endorsing the Saudis, I do think it just smacks of Western arrogance the way they are just dismissed as ‘murderers’. I don’t purport to fully understand everything they do, but they are a sovereign nation, and pretty much all of them shed blood for reasons they believe to be right. Of course, over here, we conclude that only ours is justified, but regardless, they are a nation and a people - you would think they were an underworld gang or something.
We’re worth 2.5bn but the Glazers will apparently only sell at 4bn.Actually I’ll post it here. Can someone explain how we are worth 4bn?
That’s what I thought. ThanksWe’re worth 2.5bn but the Glazers will apparently only sell at 4bn.
And if someone managed to land a deal to buy their equity for something in between the $2.5B and $4.0B, would still need to pony up an additional 600 million quid to repay the debt, otherwise it would just stay there.We’re worth 2.5bn but the Glazers will apparently only sell at 4bn.
4bn is also close to the value calculated by Forbes.That’s what I thought. Thanks
But what is that based on?4bn is also close to the value calculated by Forbes.
Arrogant to say we don't want to be owned by a murderous, violent, highly dangerous regime?While I am not endorsing the Saudis, I do think it just smacks of Western arrogance the way they are just dismissed as ‘murderers’. I don’t purport to fully understand everything they do, but they are a sovereign nation, and pretty much all of them shed blood for reasons they believe to be right. Of course, over here, we conclude that only ours is justified, but regardless, they are a nation and a people - you would think they were an underworld gang or something.