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I like Aldo's method. Except I didn't read about the player picking thing because I'm really, really tired after a long day at work.
 

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I like Aldo's method. Except I didn't read about the player picking thing because I'm really, really tired after a long day at work.
Like his method as well and can work.
Doesn't work. The entire point of wanting to change the method was to give participants an many chances as possible to play maximum matches to justify the 15 days spent drafting. Group stages guarantee 2 matches atleast. Knockouts only 1.

I have received all write ups except Donadol's
 

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Matchday 1


I have received mightberight's write up. Desert Eagle, Crappy and zing are to provide theirs. We start matchday 2 on Monday. Those matches will have a length of 1 day only.
 

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Could we please have people list their 12th men in matches from now on? I didn't do so myself, but will next time. It just helps from a voting perspective when I'm regarding the closer match-ups as series battles.
 

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Cant be arsed to PM IL in bits, and ill be busy tomorrow or so, so here it is.

The Westsiders

Matthew Hayden
Boeta Dippenaar
Michael Clarke
Damien Martyn
Scott Styris
Suresh Raina
Brendan Taylor
Daniel Vettori
Kyle Mills
Makhaya Ntini
Allan Donald

Sub - Mohammad Hafeez

So my openers are a brilliant combo. One is the aggressor, while the other is a more careful batsman, building his innings(though it doesn't mean Hayden doesn't do that). Hayden will go after the bowling, and Boeta will be slow and stick around, and later accelerate. Then comes Clarke and Martyn. Brilliant to have in middle order. Great techniques, and will build the innings.
Then Styris and Raina and Taylor, again, they can surely bat with average's around 31-35. Raina will be the finisher, with a strike rate of 93. Then Vettori and Mills, who will stick aruond for others to make runs, or else do that themselves. Long tail indeed. Then Ntini can hit a shot before getting out. Donald will not be around for long agreed.

Now bowling. Class new ball bowlers in Donald and Ntini. Just brilliant. Then Kyle mills who's very good himself. Then the medium pace of Styris, and spin of Vettori, who'll keep the run rate in check. If needed, Clarke can chip in with a over here and there, and so can Raina.
So my bowling will ensure the run rate is low, and take wickets too, and the score would not be a high one to chase.
Then my deep batting ensures i will be able to chase a higher total, or make one myself.

Also my fielding will save 10-20 odd runs, with the likes of Raina, and Clarke.

On the whole, very balanced side, capable of defeating my opponent.

Player Profiles


Hayden - Cracking opener. An average of 44, 10 hundreds, 36 fiftys, and a strike rate of almost 80. Once he gets going, there's no stopping him. He's been a class batsman for Australia. Huge guy with great power, very good slip fielder.

Dippenaar - Another very fine opener. Average of 42, 4 hundreds, 26 fiftys. Strike rate on the lower side at 68. But his combination with Hayden is perfect. My opening is just more than good. They both are not going to get out early.

Clarke - Another class act. Average of over 45, 7 hundreds, 54 fifty's, strike rate of over 78. A very reliable batsman, and a brilliant fielder. And he can bowl as well. 56 wickets at an average of 37, and an economy of just 5, for a batsman of his sort is just very good. A very good batsman, who can bowl as well, when needed, and just brilliant in the field.

Martyn - Another very good batsman, with great technique. Average of 41, 5 hundreds, 37 fifty's, and a strike rate of 78. A very calm batsman, and he'll be the one who'll keep my middle order together.

Scott Styris - My all rounder, batting average of 32, strike rate of 79, 4 hundreds, and 28 fifty's. And a bowling average of 35, with an economy of 4.7 only, taking 137 wickets.
He'll bat, he'll bowl, what more do you need. He's more than just a decent batsman, and a good bowler as well, for an all rounder.

Suresh Raina - Average of 36, Strike rate of 94, 3 hundreds, 24 fifty's
. The future of Indian cricket. He can take it to the bowlers when needed, and can bat according to the situation. A very handy batsman, and he'll probably save 10 odd runs by his fielding. One of the better fielders around. Plus he can also chip in with a few overs with his off spin if needed.

Brendan Taylor
- My keeper, from Zimbabwe. Average of 35, 72 strike rate, 6 hundreds, 26 fifty's. He can build his innings, and is a good keeper as well. He's shown his worth for Zimbabwe, scoring hundreds against South Africa, New Zealand, SriLanka, and Bangladesh. Out of the 3 games against Aussies, scored half centuries in two of them. Certainly he's played a little less against the better oppositions, but when he has done, he's done well. Also scored 70 and 80 against India out of the 4 games he played against them. So he surely is a very good batsman.

Daniel Vettori - World Class spinner. Average of 31, economy of just 4.1, which is very good. It's never easy hitting against him. Even if he's not taking wickets, he'll keep the score under check, and not give away runs. Can bat very well aswell, 4 half centuries, strike rate of 81, and average of 17. Handy with the bat, high score of 81. And a class spinner.

Kyle Mills - Bowling average of just 26, economy of 4.7, taking 138 wickets. Batting average of 15, strike rate of 79, with 2 fiftys. So even he can chip in with the bat, and play big shots if needed. He would have done more, if not for his injuries. Great bowler, and can chip in with the bat as well.

Makhaya Ntini
- 171 wickets, at an average of 24, with a evonomy rate of 4.5. Brilliant bowler indeed. Great pace, aggressive, just what you need as a fast bowler. His combo with Donald will be brilliant.

Allan Donald - 162 wicketts, bowling average of 21, economy of 4.1, JUST BRILLIANT. World class performer. Again, brilliant fast bowler, great pace and swing. Certainly a class bowler.

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Hafeez - Batting average of 27, 4 hundred, 14 fiftys, strike rate 68. Bowling average of 33, economy of just 4, taking 68 wickets. One of the better all arounders around at present.
 

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Haven't got it.
I'll just pot it here. Seems to be an issue with your private messages.


I had Desmond Haynes in my team. Just noticed that in the last minute, I saw that Fleming was available and picked him. I don't even have Haynes in the squad.

Can you please edit the part containing his bit in the write-up to this:

Stephen Fleming
Average of 33 over 280 matches. 8 centuries. Great slip fielder. Will be captain of my side.
 

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Matchday 1:
Aldo vs MJJ
nm03 vs Donadol

Matchday 2:
Desert Eagle vs mightberight
zing vs crappy

Matchday 3:
Varun vs Interval
Donadol vs Omar

Matchday 4:
mightberight vs KM
crappy vs The Best

Matchday 5:
Aldo vs Varun
nm03 vs Omar

Matchday 6:
Desert Eagle vs KM
zing vs The Best

Matchday 7:
MJJ vs Interval

Matchday 8:
Aldo vs Interval
MJJ Varun
Note to Varun, myself and in case DD decides to change, the write up is due by tomorrow noon GMT.
 

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Desert Eagle's desert eagles


Virender Sehwag
Saurav Ganguly
Robin Smith
Neil Fairbrother
Paul collingwood
JP Duminy
Mark Boucher
Agit Agarkar
Shane Warne
Jason Gillespie
Dale Steyn

12th man: Nathan Astle

My openeers are deadly if they get set. Sehwag has a ridiculous strike rate to go along with 15 centuries in all sorts of conditions while Ganguly reached 1000 ODI runs in a calender year 4 times! Not to mention they can chip in with a few overs ( both have loads of odi wickets) and are excelllent fielders.

My middle order consists of 3 english men. Smith and Fairbrother both average almost 40 and especially loved playing against quicks as demonstrated by their numbers against the great west indian side of the late eighties/early nineties. Then comes Collingwood, Mr.dependable. Average of 35 with over 30 knocks of 50 plus runs. A calm customer and true professional who adds solidity to my middle order and will be able to chip in with quite a few economical overs.

Then I have two South Africans who are excellent fielders, match winners and love batting with the tail. Duminy with his fielding and part time spin is tailor made for the short version of the game while Boucher has seen it and done it everywhere.
 

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Sorry IL. Had a day from hell in the office. I had my write up ready to be send this morning but did not even have time to post it here!

Give me 5.. I will post it now
 

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Crappy's Glorious Basterds

1. Sanath Jayasuriya- 13,430 runs @ 32.36 and 91.21 SR. 28 Hundreds. 323 wickets @ 36.75!

2. Chris Gayle - 8360 runs @ 39.45 and 84.45 SR. 20 hundreds. 156 wickets!

3. Greame Hick - 3846 runs @ 37.33 and 74.08 SR.

4. Andy Flower(wk) - 6786 runs @ 35.30, 74.59 SR.

5. Steve Waugh(c) - 7569 runs @ 32.90 and 75.9 SR. 195 wickets @ 34.67

6. Jonty Rhodes - 5935 runs @ 35.11 and 80.90 SR

7. Umar Akmal - 1976 runs @ 38.0 and 84.77 SR.

8. Jacob Oram - 2432 runs @ 24.32 and 86.67 SR / 173 wickets @ 29.82 and 4.37 econ

9. Ian Bishop - 83 matches, 118 wickets @ 26.50 and 4.33 econ. 7 four-wicket hauls!

10. Waqar Younis - 416 wickts @ 23.45 and 4.68 econ. SR- 30.5...

11. Mustaq Ahmed- 161 wickets @ 33.29 and 4.26 econ


12th man - J. Trott - 2208 runs @ 49.06 and 74.89 SR.

Bowling

Waqar.. one of the best bowlers in any format, but even better in the one day format for me. His strike rate is unmatchable by another tpp bowler be it Mcgrath or Akram. Bishop, very good one day record for the amount of matches he played, more importantly another attacking bowler, there to fetch me wickets. Oram will be my specialist one day bowler. He use his height well to give his deliveries an uneasy bounce either to stiffle batsmen or clean them up on helpful wickets. Other medium pace option - Steve Waugh. A very handy record as a bowler in ODIs, and has bowled his full quota in many a matches for Oz.

Spin options - Mushtaq Ahmed, Jayasuriya, Gayle. Mushtaq ahmed, leg spinner supreme. Jayasuriya is much much more than a part timer, has 323 wicket after all to his name. One of those spinners, who is more deadly on spin friendly wickets than even premier spinners. Both and him Gayle also are typical one day spinners in the sense that they can be used to get rid of overs quickly in middle overs. Both also capable of bowling crucial overs in tight situations

Having about 7 bowling options in an one day scene is very very handy given one of your regular bowlers could have an off day.

Batting

Jayasuriya and Gayle----- Ponder over that for a bit. Both, in their prime, coming out to open against any bowling attack. If even one sticks around for first 20 overs, that's a massive advantage. If both stick around for that amount of time, that's the game almost won. But that's not it, both are capable of playing the big innings. Both have a combined 58 centuries.

Flower and Waugh - Solid as rock. Will anchor the innings when needed or recover it if top order fails. With my two openers it can be a high risk-reward scenario and these two provide the landing pad. If they fail, I have the best two fighters out there to save the innings. More importantly, Steve Waugh true to his nature reserved his best for when Oz needed it the most.

Rhodes- Forget just batting where he had a very health 37 average, he will save feck knows how many runs in the field. Priceless in one day setting

Umar Akmal - Prodigious talent, used to batting late down, will help accelerate or finish innings. Has an excellent one day record already. Can also be promoted if quick scoring is needed.

Omar- Big hitter who can be promoted when required or score quickly at the end of innings. Is also no mug and can hold his end if required. Tail - a bit iff perhaps but you can't have everything
 

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Hashim Amla
Gary Kirsten
Shane Watson
Misbah Ul Haq
Carl Hooper
Kamran Akmal
Justin Kemp
Anil Kumble
James Anderson
Michael Kasprowicz
Muttiah Muralitharan


12th man- Tsotsobe

Batting: Great South African opening pair in Amla and Kirsten. Wonderful strokemaker in Amla to give the innings a brisk start combined with the solidity and calmness that Kirsten will bring to the lineup. Amla is someone who is great at building innings so thats another big plus. These 2 will be followed by Watson who's another fantastic player. Big hitter of the ball and scores big knocks.

Misbah will provide the fulcrum to the team to play around. Steady player who can accelerate later. His best performances come when playing at the No 4 slot and thats where i'l be playing him. He's followed by the very talented Carl Hooper. Very good against both pacers and spinners, he'l give the team impetus or stability as needed.

Akmal and Kemp will give the team the late flourish it needs. 7 batsmen, more than enough for an ODI when they are of this quality.

Bowling: Murali and Kumble. 2 of the greatest spinners Cricket has seen in the same lineup. Both economical bowlers and great at picking wickets. Can bowl at any point of time depending on the situation. 20 top quality overs of spin by the wizards supplemented by another spell by Hooper will be very handy against most teams.

Anderson with his swing bowling will open the innings supported by Kasprowicz. Not the best of opening bowlers admittedly but with excellent support in the likes of Watson and Kemp, i have lots of bowling options and with such variety, teams wont have it easy. Hooper is another option in attack with lots of wickets in ODIs, quality all rounder.

Overall, i think its a wonderfully balanced team with lots of strokemakers ably supported by stable batsmen to play with. This team can post huge totals and with the genuises in Murali and Kumble supported by Anderson Kaspro Watson Kemp and Hooper, i'd back my bowlers to make life very difficult for most lineups. 3 quality allrounders in the team in Watson, Kemp and Hooper which is much needed in ODIs.
 

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Crappy's Glorious Basterds

1. Sanath Jayasuriya- 13,430 runs @ 32.36 and 91.21 SR. 28 Hundreds. 323 wickets @ 36.75!

2. Chris Gayle - 8360 runs @ 39.45 and 84.45 SR. 20 hundreds. 156 wickets!

3. Greame Hick - 3846 runs @ 37.33 and 74.08 SR.

4. Andy Flower(wk) - 6786 runs @ 35.30, 74.59 SR.

5. Steve Waugh(c) - 7569 runs @ 32.90 and 75.9 SR. 195 wickets @ 34.67

6. Jonty Rhodes - 5935 runs @ 35.11 and 80.90 SR

7. Umar Akmal - 1976 runs @ 38.0 and 84.77 SR.

8. Jacob Oram - 2432 runs @ 24.32 and 86.67 SR / 173 wickets @ 29.82 and 4.37 econ

9. Ian Bishop - 83 matches, 118 wickets @ 26.50 and 4.33 econ. 7 four-wicket hauls!

10. Waqar Younis - 416 wickts @ 23.45 and 4.68 econ. SR- 30.5...

11. Mustaq Ahmed- 161 wickets @ 33.29 and 4.26 econ


12th man - J. Trott - 2208 runs @ 49.06 and 74.89 SR.
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Ridiculously good team. To think some poor bowler having to run up to Jayasuriya/Gayle and the Waqar/Bishop to open the bowling. And the middle of the side the solid as oak too.

Question: I don't know the rules for team selection, but why not change Umar Gul for Akram or even the Imran Khan?
 

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Ridiculously good team. To think some poor bowler having to run up to Jayasuriya/Gayle and the Waqar/Bishop to open the bowling. And the middle of the side the solid as oak too.

Question: I don't know the rules for team selection, but why not change Umar Gul for Akram or even the Imran Khan?
Should have clocked on this earlier. I just lost a match!

I think some people already picked both Akram and Imran. Both were first round picks
 

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I'm considering an secondary championship. A UEFA Cup-esque competition, if you may. All the 2nd place teams in the 4 groups will automatically qualify for the semis. It will give excitement to probable dead rubbers. And considering the fact that we're getting decent turnout for 2 matches a day, I don't think it'll be a problem showing this on the same day as the main competition semis and finals.
 

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Post Matchday 3


Congratulations to Donadol for being the first team to qualify to the semis where he will play the winner of group C
 

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I still reckon you guys should do 2 teams qualifying from each group. If you don't it sort of means if you lose one game you may as well just give up.
 

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Congratulations to Donadol for being the first team to qualify to the semis where he will play the winner of group C
Cheers IL. Thanks for the votes to the rest. When can I pick my player now? And does that mean that the team I pick him from will play the secondary championship without him?
 

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Congratulations to Donadol for being the first team to qualify to the semis where he will play the winner of group C
Can we have a draw for it at the end? After the winning teams pick their players.
 

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Cheers IL. Thanks for the votes to the rest. When can I pick my player now? And does that mean that the team I pick him from will play the secondary championship without him?
You can pick your player from either of the 2 teams. If its from the second placed team, they will retain that player for the secondary tourney as well. The second placed team also gets to pick one player from the non qualified team


Can we have a draw for it at the end? After the winning teams pick their players.
i am not for it since it was already declared before hand. Frankly, constantly redrawing makes no sense as the draw was random. But if majority of the people think so, so be it
 

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So any suggestions or is this line up ok?
1. Nick Knight
2. Marvan Atapattu
3. Kevin Pieterson
4. Hansie Cronje
5. Andrew Symonds
6. Lance Klusener
7. Moin Khan
8. Andrew Hall
9. Wasim Akram
10. Darren Gough
11. Saqlain Mushtaq
 

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Moin Khan averages 23.. feckin Taibu surely averages more?