Bojan11
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Why didn’t VAR do a check on the Azpilicueta pen incident? That cnut seems to get away with everything.
They did check it, in CL matches replays aren't shown on the broadcast.Why didn’t VAR do a check on the Azpilicueta pen incident? That cnut seems to get away with everything.
Im guessing this was posted before they missed an Ireland pen to put us 2-1 up!?No VAR in the Serbia-Ireland game. Such a blessed relief to see offsides flagged promptly and blown up immediately. Every single decision correct so far. Like 99% of offside calls pre-VAR. With none of the dragged out, uncertain and confusing bullshit that seems to accompany most offsides in the PL these days. Football is a simple game. How did we let it get so complicated?
Can you stop complicating things please ? Jeez...Im guessing this was posted before they missed an Ireland pen to put us 2-1 up!?
Referees chiefs have told Premier League clubs that they will produce an action plan to “change and improve” the VAR system for next season after numerous controversial incidents during this campaign.
The changes will be passed on to match officials at coaching and training sessions in the summer before the new season, clubs were told at a league shareholders’ meeting yesterday.
The VAR action plan will focus on improving the consistency of decision-making on subjective calls such as fouls in the penalty area and red cards for serious foul play, as well as the interpretation of marginal offsides.
The meeting also heard that the Premier League would approach the government to ask if a limited number of away fans would be permitted for the final two rounds of the season, when, under the roadmap out of lockdown, 10,000 supporters should be allowed into games. The government is also considering allowing a small number of people into one of the FA Cup semifinals as a test event, though not fans of the clubs involved.
The VAR plan follows a survey of club managers, captains and sporting directors. The deadline for completing the survey was this week and the results will be analysed and become part of the action plan. Fans’ views of the VAR system will also be taken into account as part of the proposed changes.
A presentation to the clubs stated: “The purpose is to identify improvements to the VAR system and form a common understanding of where a VAR interpretation is expected and how changes can be made to increase consistency in interpretation and decision-making.
“The results will inform the coaching and training of match officials during the close season and changes will take effect in season 2021-2022.”
Criticism of the use of VAR has continued throughout this season, the second year it has been in operation in the top flight, despite changes introduced in August, when referees were told to consult pitch-side monitors themselves for subjective decisions.
Managers and players have criticised the consistency of the decision- making, and despite access to the monitors, the referee Mike Dean had two red cards he issued in successive matches both overturned on appeal.
The use of marginal offside decisions has also become very unpopular, with some clubs in favour of the Premier League using the Dutch system, which allows for a greater margin of error.
At the meeting the 20 clubs also gave their approval to move the penultimate round of matches to the final midweek of the season to ensure that every club will have one game with 10,000 fans present.
The Premier League will adjust the fixture calendar to have the penultimate round of games on May 18 and 19, with the final round of matches on May 23. It is exploring with the government whether 1,000 of the 10,000 attending could be away fans, though some clubs are in favour of limiting it to home supporters only.
The government has already confirmed that the FA Cup final will be used as a pilot event with 20,000 fans attending on May 15. It is still in talks with the FA and the EFL about using the FA Cup semi-finals and the Carabao Cup final, in April, as other test events.
One plan is to use one of the semifinals at Wembley to admit several hundred people from the local Brent area or NHS workers, but with no supporters from either of the clubs involved.
Agreed. For me the fundamental problem with VAR is it's given more leeway for these idiots to make judgement calls. This is why I keep saying the solution is to just get rid of slow motion and freeze framing - let a VAR watch at normal speed, if he sees something obviously wrong to the point where it's apparent at normal speed then it should be flagged and corrected. People want VAR to correct egregious mistakes, not to say whether someone's pubic hair might be offside.Premier League action plan to ‘change and improve’ VAR
Improvements on offside, dangerous play and red cards but i honestly feel it's going to be empty promises. Whatever changes they make, you can't apply them with this bunch of jokers in place.
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You still livid about that one? Ha ha. Luiz was crystal clear contact. I genuinely can't make anything out on this one.Pretty similar to Douglas Luiz on Pogba really, Maguire got away with a couple this season.
Not hugely, just thought they looked pretty similar. Maguire certainly has arm on Welbeck's shoulder as cross comes in just as Luiz did on Pogba and there was possible if accidental coming together of legs.You still livid about that one? Ha ha. Luiz was crystal clear contact. I genuinely can't make anything out on this one.
I'd put it in the category of 'not proven' - the footage and replays didn't shed enough light on what, if any, contact there was.Even as a City fan I just haven't seen anything in the Maguire-Welbeck incident, after numerous replays, that says it's a penalty. Welbeck's already on his way down, Maguire doesn't seem to touch him. We've spent all season, collectively as football fans, complaining about the amount of soft decisions being awarded, so why are we clamouring for one now? Without VAR there would be no fussing about it, just an acceptance that the referee didn't see enough to give the decision (which I also still haven't, after several looks) and that we should all get on with our lives.
And everyone but United fans were fuming that that was given. So they should be glad this one wasn't given?Pretty similar to Douglas Luiz on Pogba really,
I believe that’s what they would call ‘corruption’ my friend.I'm sorry but what even is this?
What was the penalty incident? I've been watching Liverpool get their asses handed to them by Madrid instead.That ref should be investigated, not even joking.
That and the penalty, dodgy as feck.
What is the point of having VAR when decisions like that are not pulled?I'm sorry but what even is this?
Oh my goodness. That is shambolic. City got super lucky.What is the point of having VAR when decisions like that are not pulled?
Summed up perfectly. Frankly outrageous.That might genuinely be one of the worst refereeing decisions I've ever seen... For a myriad of reasons
1. It's not a foul
2. If anything is a foul on Bellingham
3. He blew up early instead of letting it play out and then blowing
4. He did this knowing VAR is in play
5. He booked Bellingham
6. VAR didn't review it as a red card incident for Ederson (which it could have done)
Not surprising really. They're used to bending the rules to get what and where they want.City are a good side but they have had some ridiculous decisions go their way this season. They have had rules literally bend to give them goals.
Bang on. The blowing up before he puts it in the net really blew his cover. It’s so bad.That might genuinely be one of the worst refereeing decisions I've ever seen... For a myriad of reasons
1. It's not a foul
2. If anything is a foul on Bellingham
3. He blew up early instead of letting it play out and then blowing
4. He did this knowing VAR is in play
5. He booked Bellingham
6. VAR didn't review it as a red card incident for Ederson (which it could have done)
He should actually never be seen in the CL again after that decision.That might genuinely be one of the worst refereeing decisions I've ever seen... For a myriad of reasons
1. It's not a foul
2. If anything is a foul on Bellingham
3. He blew up early instead of letting it play out and then blowing
4. He did this knowing VAR is in play
5. He booked Bellingham
6. VAR didn't review it as a red card incident for Ederson (which it could have done)
Nailed it, one of the worst decisions I’ve ever seen.That might genuinely be one of the worst refereeing decisions I've ever seen... For a myriad of reasons
1. It's not a foul
2. If anything is a foul on Bellingham
3. He blew up early instead of letting it play out and then blowing
4. He did this knowing VAR is in play
5. He booked Bellingham
6. VAR didn't review it as a red card incident for Ederson (which it could have done)
That might genuinely be one of the worst refereeing decisions I've ever seen... For a myriad of reasons
1. It's not a foul
2. If anything is a foul on Bellingham
3. He blew up early instead of letting it play out and then blowing
4. He did this knowing VAR is in play
5. He booked Bellingham
6. VAR didn't review it as a red card incident for Ederson (which it could have done)
Why a red card for Ederson? He didn’t deny a goal-scoring opportunity?That might genuinely be one of the worst refereeing decisions I've ever seen... For a myriad of reasons
1. It's not a foul
2. If anything is a foul on Bellingham
3. He blew up early instead of letting it play out and then blowing
4. He did this knowing VAR is in play
5. He booked Bellingham
6. VAR didn't review it as a red card incident for Ederson (which it could have done)