francobaresi
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But they have some dreadful fixtures coming up. It's a wait n see for me...Interesting FF pick, only 4.5m....
But they have some dreadful fixtures coming up. It's a wait n see for me...Interesting FF pick, only 4.5m....
Probably not hard to poach youth from Chelsea given how limited their route to the first team is. Last season they had a few through because of the embargo, them immediately signed players in those positions once they were allowed to£40 million for players they poached from the Chelsea academy.. Fair play to them I guess!
It is crazy when you look at transfers now though. Joelinton is one that stands out tooIt wasn't a dig so relax. Like I already said, it's from a different time. Just thinking back is all.
Its a wonder at how 4 of the 6 goals in the league we have this season are from academy graduates with all them pesky new signings then aint it !Probably not hard to poach youth from Chelsea given how limited their route to the first team is. Last season they had a few through because of the embargo, them immediately signed players in those positions once they were allowed to
I’m not discussing anything with someone who can’t have a civil discussion about something that doesn’t really matter without being insulting, with words like idiotic. Have a nice day.I'm not sure what your point is sorry i might be missing it, he has sold Solanke, Stewart, Smith, Brewster, Hoever for good money all players he brought through and developed but realised weren't good enough for league/champions league winning teams. What would be the point in Klopp persisting with the players I've mentioned who unfortunately for them simply aren't good enough for the standard required, they as players themselves need minutes to grow. He's now bringing Neco Williams and Curtis Jones through.
To say he hasn't developed Trent is idiotic he brought through a very raw young RB and has helped him grow into the best RB in the world. Trent wasn't immediately that good, he certainly had the tools to become that good but Klopp has definitely helped him in his journey. That is fair enough dismissing Robertson due to age as that's a matter of opinion on what constitutes a young player but Robertson was 23 when Klopp bought him and had only 2 seasons in the premier league with Hull both of which ended in relegation, Klopp certainly developed.
You lost me at “has”.Klopp has not developed Trent. He was immediately that good. Praise the Liverpool academy.
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You realize Klopp managed Dortmund right? There's some lad named Lowandowski who Klopp found in Poland and helped turn into the best striker in the world.Show me this track record. Ole plays plenty of young players. And it’s not because of that that we aren’t good enough. Not that Ole has anything to do with this.
Fergie has proven that great managers can bring through plenty of youngsters and still win things, and that’s when you’re not winning the league at a canter. And I’m not even counting the co92 in that because there was a lot of good fortune there.
He's right though, it's a weird argument. Klopp has used young players, including TAA. Stretching the argument beyond that makes little sense. Plus, you could also argue that TAA is only this good because of Klopp. It's not likd he reaches the same heights for England. Finally, if development while already in the first team is the key metric, then you'd have to admit that Klopp developed plenty of players (of various ages) into their current level. Or you'd have to say that United's managers don't develop youngsters either, only the academy does.I’m not discussing anything with someone who can’t have a civil discussion about something that doesn’t really matter without being insulting, with words like idiotic. Have a nice day.
Quite ironic this given you're trying to smash your transfer record for a player who if signed will immediately bench Greenwood.Probably not hard to poach youth from Chelsea given how limited their route to the first team is. Last season they had a few through because of the embargo, them immediately signed players in those positions once they were allowed to
Greenwood isn't a right winger and if he keeps up his current rate of development he'll be our first choice attacker withing two years, whether or not we sign Sancho.Quite ironic this given you're trying to smash your transfer record for a player who if signed will immediately bench Greenwood.
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£15m according to wikipedia.I know this is going back some now but how much did they get for Ibe?
At least he's not playing for them. Ramsdale cost them near £20m and he's awful.Havertz and Van De Beek will get the headlines for flop of the season at this point but given the relative spending power of the clubs involved Brewster has to be up there. No idea what Sheffield United were doing buying him for £25 million. Still hasn't scored a goal for them.
If you look at Solanke, a much derided transfer, he's been one of Bournemouth's very best players this season as they sit 2nd in the Championship aiming to return to the PL straight away. If his form continues and they get promoted he'll have been well worth the £19m.Brewster will be a killer for them in the championship next year and he’ll do well when they get back to the PL. I don’t get the obsession with every signing needing to hit top form and play every game straight away. Lots of signings are made for the future. Plenty of signings are made because they will represent value over the period of a contract. I bet VDB becomes an important player for us by this time next year, just like Fred. Imagine moving city and changing job and everyone saying you’re shit as you get eased into it. It’s mental.
exactly. He’s already better value than someone like Sanchez or even falcao as his potential is untapped and he’s injury free. He might not work out and they’ll still get a good fee for him. Wish people make these lists at the end of a players second season. Off the top of my head Cole, Fred, Ronaldo, Stam, Evra, DDG and Vidic all needed that first season to settle in but people seemingly forget that then every single time.If you look at Solanke, a much derided transfer, he's been one of Bournemouth's very best players this season as they sit 2nd in the Championship aiming to return to the PL straight away. If his form continues and they get promoted he'll have been well worth the £19m.
He may not keep them up, but there’s every chance he’ll get them promoted and develop his game. He’s had two years out with injuries that have hampered his pace. The boy needs time to change and develop his game.£23M for Brewster
Hopefully this reminds clubs not to get fleeced by Liverpool for their rejects anymore.
I agree with this but it was clearly the wrong signing for them in their position. They needed a starting striker urgently.He may not keep them up, but there’s every chance he’ll get them promoted and develop his game. He’s had two years out with injuries that have hampered his pace. The boy needs time to change and develop his game.
Brewster 26mil
Solanke 21mil
Ward 14mil
Ibe 18mil
how do they do it?
Young English players with potential upside and their wages will be next to nothing for PL clubs.Brewster 26mil
Solanke 21mil
Ward 14mil
Ibe 18mil
how do they do it?
Yeah I completely agree with this. Wilders attitude towards the signing was telling too. Said something along the lines of 20 million only gets you a kid these days. Maybe a little too honest!I agree with this but it was clearly the wrong signing for them in their position. They needed a starting striker urgently.
Wilder gets a lot of deserved praise for his approach and his great work at Sheffield United, but he had two big jobs in the summer.
Find a 15 goal striker and find a reliable goalkeeper.
Yes, he had restrictions on what he could offer, but he has failed miserably on both counts. Ramsdale is probably the worst starting keeper In the league and his 23 million pound striker might not even get one goal, nevermind 15.
Get those two positions even half right and they potentially stay up.
What you say is true. I find it astounding that Sheffield would pay £24M to develop a player instead of investing the funds elsewhere or with someone who can help them avoid relegation in the first place.He may not keep them up, but there’s every chance he’ll get them promoted and develop his game. He’s had two years out with injuries that have hampered his pace. The boy needs time to change and develop his game.
They sell at the right time. We could just as easily be putting impressive fees in a list like that about Tuanzebe, Williams, Henderson, Fosu Mensah, James etc. should we have sold at the right point.Brewster 26mil
Solanke 21mil
Ward 14mil
Ibe 18mil
how do they do it?
I most enjoyed Kevin Stewart to Hull for 8m the same summer we bought Robertson from them for the same amount. Effectively a swap deal.Brewster 26mil
Solanke 21mil
Ward 14mil
Ibe 18mil
how do they do it?
did he go the entire season without scoring?Flop of the century
whoever signed him should be investigated for corruption or fired for gross incompetenceFlop of the century