Rio Ferdinand

Nickelodeon

Full Member
Joined
Apr 20, 2015
Messages
2,329
@Wumminator If it’s of any help, I completely second every single argument you’ve put out there.

For people to call out being anti-Qatar bid as being racist is as ridiculous an argument as it can get. Sure, there will be a few people who will be against Qatar for the wrong and probably racist reasons (I personally don’t know a single such person but not denying that there wouldn’t be any). But the dominant argument has been the human rights issues and concerns with our club being owned by a state.
 

Pogue Mahone

The caf's Camus.
Joined
Feb 22, 2006
Messages
133,959
Location
"like a man in silk pyjamas shooting pigeons
I have no idea why any of you even care whether or not some people who are against the Qatari bid are racists. That’s like arguing whether or not some people whose name begins with a vowel are racist. I mean, yeah, sure. You can’t really argue against that (unless your name is wumminator)

The only thing that matters here is whether or not there are some people against the Qatari bid who are not racist and happen to have coherent, rational and convincing reasons for their objections. Because assuming those people exist, then they should be heard. And trying to imply that their opinions is basically indistinguishable from what racists think is a shitty thing to do.

But anyway. Rio Ferdinand. I like him. He’s flawed (who isn’t?) but he’s a very likeable guy.
 
Last edited:

Bert_

Full Member
Joined
Sep 7, 2022
Messages
1,550
Location
Manchester
Another thread that's a prime example of why oligarchs and autocratic regimes want to buy football clubs. The PL have a lot to answer for letting Abramovich start this nonsense.
 

Wumminator

The Qatar Pounder
Joined
May 8, 2008
Messages
22,953
Location
Obertans #1 fan.
I have no idea why any of you even care whether or not some people who are against the Qatari bid are racists. That’s like arguing whether or not some people whose name begins with a vowel are racist. I mean, yeah, sure. You can’t really argue against that (unless your name is wumminator)

The only thing that matters here is whether or not there are some people against the Qatari bid who are not racist and happen to have coherent, rational and convincing reasons for their objections. Because assuming those people exist, then they should be heard. And trying to imply that their opinions is basically indistinguishable from what racists think is a shitty thing to do.

But anyway. Rio Ferdinand. I like him. He’s flawed (who isn’t?) but he’s a very likeable guy.
Why agree with me and throw me under the bus like that.
 

RC89

Full Member
Joined
Oct 12, 2010
Messages
3,013
I am genuinely 100% baffled by this post. I can not imagine living my life viewing the world in this way.
What? Separating objective truth from biased opinion?

Rather than talking about how you feel, why not offer a rebuttal.
 

Sir Erik ten Hag

Full Member
Joined
May 21, 2022
Messages
1,229
Another thread that's a prime example of why oligarchs and autocratic regimes want to buy football clubs. The PL have a lot to answer for letting Abramovich start this nonsense.
The PL will support Qatar too, as long as that lines up enough money for their pockets. :lol:
 

Amar__

Geriatric lover and empath
Joined
Sep 2, 2010
Messages
24,120
Location
Sarajevo
Supports
MK Dons
His AMA is going great :lol:

It's not bad at all. He answered majority of the questions, and it's not short answers either so fair feck to him(if it's him to be fair). Shite questions though.