pratyush_utd
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So how rich are these Saudis since they are not related to Govt and PIF?
Dominated is a bit strong. We've won 2 titles in 12 years. Same as United and one more than Liverpool and Leicester.Forcing Roman out to just let Saudis take over would be typical PL wouldn't it? Laughable.
It's time all this oil and state owned nonsense was put to bed. It's not been good for football at all. It's absolutely ridiculous. Chelsea and City have dominated the English game for last 12 years and it's blatantly obvious why they have.
Is this now what the league has come to?
You have won a lot of other trophies though and it's all come from dodgy money.Dominated is a bit strong. We've won 2 titles in 12 years. Same as United and one more than Liverpool and Leicester.
I'm not denying that. What's made the last decade so successful has been the 4 European cups on top of the 2 titles, but domestically 2 titles, 3 domestic cups in 12 years hardly screams domination.You have won a lot of other trophies though and it's all come from dodgy money.
The league is to blame for allowing it to happen though. These accusations of Abramovich aren't even new. This has been known about him for years. He should never have been allowed to take over. Same goes for UAE using City as a tool to sports wash their global image.
Some people think the PL has never been stronger. I actually think it lost control and entering a very difficult period.
You have won a lot of other trophies though and it's all come from dodgy money.
The league is to blame for allowing it to happen though. These accusations of Abramovich aren't even new. This has been known about him for years. He should never have been allowed to take over. Same goes for UAE using City as a tool to sports wash their global image.
Some people think the PL has never been stronger. I actually think it lost control and entering a very difficult period.
I guess it depends on who is actually in the group that is buying? I don’t think that has been made public yet?So how rich are these Saudis since they are not related to Govt and PIF?
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report that Khalid Al Saud, who is a member of the House of Saud, has offered up his support.
The House of Saud are thought to have assets worth an astonishing £1.19trillion - which is far more than both Newcastle and Manchester City have at their disposal.
While City owners the Abu Dhabi Group alongside Sheikh Mansour are thought to have a net worth of around £9.2billion, Newcastle's Public Investment Fund of Saudi Arabia have around £500bn.
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Do we know what their bid would be? I can’t find anything. Boehly and his sports group wanted to be at like 1.5 with no guarantees for things like stadium expansion…Nick Candy supposedly being backed by Citadel LLC. Citadel are worth 38bn, owned/run by Ken Griffin
You have Stan Kroenke as an owner …..There are waaay too many idiotic Roman supporters on here.
The Chelsea owner made billions after buying an oil company from the Russian government in a rigged auction in 1995.
Mr Abramovich paid around $250m (£190m) for Sibneft, before selling it back to the Russian government for $13bn in 2005.
The document says that the Russian government was cheated out of $2.7bn in the Sibneft deal - a claim supported by a 1997 Russian parliamentary investigation. The document also says that the Russian authorities wanted to charge Mr Abramovich with fraud.
Pretty damning stuff.Panorama tracked down Russia's former chief prosecutor, who investigated the deal in the 1990s.
Yuri Skuratov did not know about the secret document, but he independently confirmed many of the details about the Sibneft sale.
Mr Skuratov told the programme: "Basically, it was a fraudulent scheme, where those who took part in the privatisation formed one criminal group that allowed Abramovich and Berezovsky to trick the government and not pay the money that this company was really worth."
The document also suggests Mr Abramovich was protected by former Russian President Boris Yeltsin.
Some of these cnuts have no shame.Some Chelsea fans on twitter have already picked up on Al Saud wanting to be in the group.
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Yeah, although id assume the government are overseeing the sale?. There’s far too much limelight currently on these criminals/sport washers for the government to allow a Saudi group (which like Newcastle owners are definitely not linked to the government) for them to allow them to buy the club. It would make the U.K. government look like corrupt cnuts so actually I’d expect it to happen come to think of it. Even Neville was backtracking on Mnf last night and said maybe it’s time to put a stop to it.Forcing Roman out to just let Saudis take over would be typical PL wouldn't it? Laughable.
It's time all this oil and state owned nonsense was put to bed. It's not been good for football at all. It's absolutely ridiculous. Chelsea and City have dominated the English game for last 12 years and it's blatantly obvious why they have.
Is this now what the league has come to?
At least two of the bids have been formally submitted from what I understand. The deadline for submission is this Tuesday. No messing around. Roman was spotted getting on a plane in Tel Aviv, presumably to go view/accept the offers in person.Is there anything concrete behind any of these potential buyers or are they just doing what some United fans did a few months ago and just naming random billionaires?
But surely he can’t sell without agreement of govt. If there’s a suggestion he’s benefiting financially from an asset the govt has effectively seized then they’ll just refuse to recognise the dealAt least two of the bids have been formally submitted from what I understand. The deadline for submission is this Tuesday. No messing around. Roman was spotted getting on a plane in Tel Aviv, presumably to go view/accept the offers in person.
And I'm very happy to have been and always be critical of billionaire ownership. I don't defend him like my life depends on it like some of you nutcases.You have Stan Kroenke as an owner …..
Jesus Christ he's toast, get the feck over it. It's amusing how much he matters to you lot.As a side note: the UK has amended their statement to say Evraz had the “potential” to provide metal for Russian tanks. That’s because the only Division of Evraz that makes the Heavy armor plating they glanced over is in Portland, Or … and supplies armor for AMERICAN tanks.
The ship has sailed really. But I am genuinely curious: what if the one, single, solitary charge levied against Roman by the UK isn’t true? Do you just say “he’s a dirty Russian!” and move on?
People from Portland to Australia, normal workers, are worried about losing their jobs now btw. Evraz is a global company. If they made up whatever came to mind to get rid of a football owner that looked bad optically …that’s messed up.
Pretty sure anybody buying a club for 3b will have this sort of money behind them?Nick Candy supposedly being backed by Citadel LLC. Citadel are worth 38bn, owned/run by Ken Griffin
No, they won’t.Wow from bad to worse for Chelsea of they are getting sold to he Saudis. I'm sure their fanbase will love it though
Really good point.No, they won’t.
Rightly or wrongly, the publicity for our club has been horrendous lately. It somewhat distracts from the goings on in the world.
Ties have been cut and we must move on. I seriously hope the next owner comes in with a good reputation and business model but enough money to keep us challenging.
We will be fine and survive this. We have a magnificent academy and already have players on loan returning who are established Premier League players.
The young players in amongst the experienced heads will give us a platform to move forward.
I really really do not want another owner with baggage. It’s not a good look for the club. The ladies team are fantastic too and they must be respected too. Im not sure many of the female players would enjoy working under a Saudi regime.
The premier league was stronger in 2008 when oil money had nearly entered the scene.It's true, PL has never been this strong since it's creation.
Thanks to oligarch and oil money..yes
but you know when people brag about PL being the best here, suddenly they don't mention oligarchs and oil anymore, but they sure will complain about Football ethics in other threads.
Citadel will not be throwing free money at you, that's for sure.Nick Candy supposedly being backed by Citadel LLC. Citadel are worth 38bn, owned/run by Ken Griffin
Difference is that the Chelsea model under Maria Graniskiova works. Firing managers on a regualr basis, hoovering up talent from across europe and loaning them out to anyone and everyone.So they could go from virtually unlimited wealth backing them to basically unlimited wealth backing them. Amazing.
Youre pathetic.As a side note: the UK has amended their statement to say Evraz had the “potential” to provide metal for Russian tanks. That’s because the only Division of Evraz that makes the Heavy armor plating they glanced over is in Portland, Or … and supplies armor for AMERICAN tanks.
The ship has sailed really. But I am genuinely curious: what if the one, single, solitary charge levied against Roman by the UK isn’t true? Do you just say “he’s a dirty Russian!” and move on?
People from Portland to Australia, normal workers, are worried about losing their jobs now btw. Evraz is a global company. If they made up whatever came to mind to get rid of a football owner that looked bad optically …that’s messed up.
Did the departures board say "Destination - meet potential bidders in person"?At least two of the bids have been formally submitted from what I understand. The deadline for submission is this Tuesday. No messing around. Roman was spotted getting on a plane in Tel Aviv, presumably to go view/accept the offers in person.
I think the dynamic with Abramovich is a bit odd because when he first arrived in 2003 I don't think anyone really had a clue who he was or how he amassed his wealth. I was just a young lad back then but I'm pretty sure certain most adults at the time had no clue either. Years later when people started to fill in the blanks on his background, the fanbase was already emotionally hooked to him and his ownership.No, they won’t.
Rightly or wrongly, the publicity for our club has been horrendous lately. It somewhat distracts from the goings on in the world.
Ties have been cut and we must move on. I seriously hope the next owner comes in with a good reputation and business model but enough money to keep us challenging.
We will be fine and survive this. We have a magnificent academy and already have players on loan returning who are established Premier League players.
The young players in amongst the experienced heads will give us a platform to move forward.
I really really do not want another owner with baggage. It’s not a good look for the club. The ladies team are fantastic too and they must be respected too. Im not sure many of the female players would enjoy working under a Saudi regime.
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Just seen it was literally on the previous page, usually quite good at not double posting. Oops.I AM THE LATE POLICE
I mean if we're being real here, what he described there isn't unique to Chelsea. Every club does exactly what he said to one extent or another. He was just using his platform to have a bit of a rant and clap back against the Chelsea fans who have been fighting him in his mentions last week.Tweet
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Carragher is spot on here