Was the same rubbish with Torres.
It's almost as if in some quarters the more a player costs the more excuses they get.
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It's almost as if in some quarters the more a player costs the more excuses they get.
They will after they sell Kane.
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Coutinho, Dembele, Neymar, Graelish, Sancho, Maguire get attacked on all quarters. None of them get as many excuses made for them as Lukaku.
How does that make sense? Kane has less years on his contract than Lukaku, and is older.
Chelsea won't sell for less than what they bought him for, Kane value is probably halved since last summer and Lukaku has a higher wage than Kane.
No he didn't. Ronaldo's record was scoring 25 goals for Inter in the Serie A. When it was by a good margin the strongest league in the world. And at the same time one of the lowest scoring top leagues.
Lukaku (including Penalties of course) scored 24 in Serie A when it is at best the 3d/4th league. And at the same time the 2nd highest scoring league. Football has changed.
Icardi scored 29 league goals for Inter before they had Barella, Eriksen, Hakimi. When they were happy to grabb a 4th spot finish. Lukaku's numbers are pale in comparison, given how much the team at his disposal had improved.
It doesn't happen often that Inter are consistently superior for 2 seasons in a row and with the same forward. Icardi scored 5 goals in his last 4 derbys, helping his team to even better results wiht 3 wins and one draw.
This post led me to imagine Lukaku trying to play against 90s Serie A defences. Thanks for the laugh
He should return to Italy and reunite with Jose.
Ever since he’s come out and said he regrets leaving inter he’s been terrible. Season to forget from him so far. He should let his football do the talking but he can’t help himself.
He'll score against Pool and score some headers and his fans will be back in here again.
Did he or did he not surpass Ronaldo's 59 goals for Inter?
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Seems like his time with Chelsea is following the same arc as with United.
I’m trying to see how “doing this for views” is a negative for SkySports that, well, literally does everything for views, it’s their business model?
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I would call that making up records, because he didn't even score more goals than Ronaldo in a single season, and he isn't even the record holder.
You're correct on that, but he did break Ronaldo's goal record for Inter in less time. I didn't mention him being the record scorer at Inter
Prior to his injury Ronaldo was 42 in 58 for Inter. So no, Lukaku was nowhere near R9 at Inter. Unless you want to compare Lukaku to the overweight, unfit, injury prone version of Ronaldo.
He beat his record. I'm not saying Lukaku is the better player
There were two Ronaldos at Inter. He didn't beat the real one, he beat the crocked version that couldn't run.
Look, I know you won't give Lukaku credit for anything. You can have it
Average in what group?
Neither did I. But you stating he broke Inter's single season goal record is totally wrong. He scored a few more goals than Ronaldo that is all, he didn't break any records at all.
Ronaldo played in an 18 team league, the toughest league to score in Europe at that time. His best season he scored 25 out of Inter's 62 League goals. He scored 48 goals in 68 league games in total.
Lukaku played in a 20 team league, in what is a much poorer league. His best season he scored 24 out of 89 league goals for Inter. Scoring 47 in 72 games overall.
Overall his extra few goals mostly came against piss poor teams in the Europa League.
I'm convinced you'll find any excuse or give a list of reasons to discredit anything Lukaku accomplishes so there's no point. Our Ronaldo has stated that serie A is the toughest league he's played in. That may change now that he's experienced the PL at 37 when his powers have waned. There's no point in this debate. As I told the poster above you in my last post, you can have it
I think it was the right move by Ole to get rid of him. I also think it was the right move by Inter to aquire him.
Of course, Inter may have been stupid, thinking he would score a few goals for them, and that they could sell him on with a profit. Luckily you knew better.
Kane is a few months younger than Lukaku and has comparatively lesser mileage as well.
Funny how last summer Lukaku fans were all on about how his all-round game has developed and his work in the build up play is now top-drawer, as if he was Baggio, Shearer and Ronaldo rolled into one. Suddenly, now it‘s all “Chelsea aren’t playing on the counter and giving him space to run into”. The latter part is true, but just proves why Lukaku should really be playing for Everton. He’s a borderline donkey when you put him in a top side.
Ronaldo said that in his first season when Allegri was having his team play for 1-0. He certainly can’t think that it’s as difficult in his last 2 seasons with Sarri and Pirlo playing offensive/chaos football. The chaos football is much more representative of the league nowadays.
And this certainly doesn’t represent Inter’s games. They score 80/90 every season.
Scoring 30 goals for an Allegri team is tough, scoring 25+ for most of other Serie A teams is normal for decent strikers. Again, Icardi scored 29.
While one fact is wrong and the other is not too relevant, I agree Lukaku got the right move for himself then. I also think Ole did right to move him on. It looks like this time, he hasn’t got the move right for himself. It’s hit and miss sometimes.
Id say in a top 6 prem side. I stand by hes the worst starting striker I’ve ever seen at Utd, the guy couldn’t control a ball and that’s a basic fundamental of the game. I’m 100% sure I’ve played with guys with better technical ability than Rom. That doesn’t stop him having his uses and impact but he’s just so lacking in the fundamentals he is nowhere near a top level player. Combine that with his horrific attitude, his **** like followers who apparently can’t see past “stats” and it’s easy to see why he’s disliked and people take pleasure in his failings!
Exactly. Or maybe Leicester. He would love the Conference league.
Why are you so keen to mention him with Ronaldo? It’s absolutely ridiculous. Ciro Immobile is doing well in present-day Italy and would be a more credible comparison (given that he’s a bit sh*t, too).
Average starting striker in a top 6 side sounds about right to me, I think he’s better than all the second and third strikers in the current top six. Tbh, Top six in PL, it’s not exactly what I associate with ‘average’.
I think he was a somewhat better striker for United than Chicharito, Depay, Martial, Rashford, Cavani and Ronaldo (latest stint). Touch or no touch. Still I prefer most of them to him at United, but that’s more to do with taste.
His comments directly addressed the overall quality of the league, not the system he was forced to play under Allegri in singularity. It's possible he saw things differently after playing under different managers, and as you say, the league swiftly transformed after 2019 to a more chaotic offensive setup. We'll never know unless Ronaldo's asked again will we? Here are some of his comments then:
"I've adapted to the Italian league and it's a difficult league - the most difficult one for all forwards.
"It's the most difficult league for me, it's full of quality players."
"I didn't expect this much quality in the Italian league, they're very good," he said.
"Things are going well, in my opinion. It's harder to score in the Italian league than in the Spanish league. The Spanish league is more open, the teams risk more. Here, not so much.
"Here, the team's priority is to defend first, and then to attack. That's not true for Spain. Spanish games are more open. The English league, where I played for five years [with Manchester United], is the same.
"It's harder to score in the Italian league, in my opinion."
https://www.fotmob.com/news/17cta58...serie-a-tougher-than-laliga-or-premier-league
Because Ronaldo played for Inter. I'm not comparing them, I'm stating the fact he beat his Inter record.
Martial and Rashford have shown a level up top that Lukaku couldn’t even dream of. The issue is neither have been able to keep it up for more than a season but it’s night and day watching them compared to Lukaku.
I agree with all bar Maguire, this below was just as ridiculous as any defence of Lukaku.
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All I said was Ole got it right by getting rid of him.
You took issue with that and brought Ronaldo abd records into it, I gave you a comparison. You stated he broke records. He did not, which I have shown to you. He didn't score more league goals than Ronaldo even though he played in a weaker league with more teams and he played more league games He bagged his extra goals in the EL after Inter were knocked out of the CL, in a group stage where Lukaku himself did fcuk all.
In the last few years a 30 year old Dzeko was top scorer with Roma, a 37 year Luca Toni was joint top scorer with Verona. A 35 year old Quagliarella was top scorer with Sampdoria. A 36 year old Ronaldo was top scorer with Juventus. Lukaku was nowhere near it.
He went to Italy, scored a few goals, Chelsea spunked 100m on him and once again we are seeing the real Lukaku. Maybe it would be another good move for him if he went back to Italy.
I knew better before Utd signed him from Everton. They should have consulted me then. We'd never have had to witness him in a Utd shirt.I think it was the right move by Ole to get rid of him. I also think it was the right move by Inter to aquire him.
Of course, Inter may have been stupid, thinking he would score a few goals for them, and that they could sell him on with a profit. Luckily you knew better.
That’s shocking. He must be blind.
It's PR 101. Talk up your new league when you get there, even if you're playing in the Timbuktu second division. Means nothing.
Unless its Lukaku, in which case he will get off the plane, tell you that hes not happy, being played in the wrong system and that he wishes he was back at his last club
English and tribal bias in my opinion. It's prevalent. Sherwood also vehemently protects Kane just like Neville does regardless of form. Brexit vibes
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