It's too bad the club haven't learned that many of our players are magically able to improve their fitness and performance levels when it's time for a new contract and then fall off the deep end once they are renewed.I think Jones played in every game under Ole before he got his contract extension and he was in his last year. At that point, he appeared to be one in the manager's plans. And from the last few years, we learned that when a player has any decent run of games, the club's obligated to try keeping him at the club as long as possible.
It seems difficult to push for a loan when you are injured. I think ‘the most pathetic player we own’ is a bit strong. Unlucky perhaps, it is not as if this is how he planned his career at United going.Phil Jones is the most pathetic player we own. At least Smalling pushed for a loan performed and got his move.
Jones clearly is delighted bro sit around doing nothing and getting paid.
Jones isnt deadwood he is Chernobyl acid rain forestI thought Ole was so-called good at getting rid of deadwoods? Jones has been the greatest deadwood in the team without a doubt.
I doubt that Ole had anything to do with Jones getting a five year contract. This is all about Ed having a lack of football knowledge and thinking that we could get a decent resale value for him. The best thing we could get from this whole sorry affair is letting him go for free with a small pay off. Don't see the point in having him around stinking out the place and earning more money than many of the squad. I know he has a 150,000 reasons to stay, but when he looks at himself in the mirror, is he proud of himself and what he has not achieved in footballing terms. Or does he have the spine to go and prove himself somewhere else.Yea thats not gonna fly but this thread aint for that discussion.
What does Grant even do? Does he ever play football? Why don’t we just give the third spot to a regular U23 GK who at least is match sharp?Surprised we've included Grant at the expense of Romero. Surely the latter deserves to be in the squad until January at least.
Unless we're planning on selling/loaning him to a Championship side, which is very much beneath him tbh.
That’s what a third choice keeper is. He’s an experienced player, who knows he’s got 1/200 chance of playing. That’s why you have guys like Grant, or Hart or Green at Chelsea, who are at the end of their careers.What does Grant even do? Does he ever play football? Why don’t we just give the third spot to a regular U23 GK who at least is match sharp?
Has to be up there with one of our most pointless ever signings
You don't think there was a few times he could have secured a loan? I don't believe that for one second. If he wanted to be loaned out one of these years he would have been imoIt seems difficult to push for a loan when you are injured. I think ‘the most pathetic player we own’ is a bit strong. Unlucky perhaps, it is not as if this is how he planned his career at United going.
You didn't think this one through did you.Why cant we release jones on mutual consent?
We have a string of youngsters who could fulfil that occasional need for a third choice keeper.That’s what a third choice keeper is. He’s an experienced player, who knows he’s got 1/200 chance of playing. That’s why you have guys like Grant, or Hart or Green at Chelsea, who are at the end of their careers.
You need to have three keepers, and you don’t want one of your youngsters in that role, as they will never play.
Not a pointless signing at all, he’s insurance - it’s just a lot of people can’t seem to understand the role of a 3rd choice keeper.
That’s not the point of a 3rd choice keeper. You need someone with experience who can step in at the last minute if required. It’s not about a pre determined appearance in a dead rubber match.We have a string of youngsters who could fulfil that occasional need for a third choice keeper.
Probably better them getting grants 2 appearances a year too.
Lee Grant is hardly any sort of quality option above our youngsters irrespective of his "experience" .That’s not the point of a 3rd choice keeper. You need someone with experience who can step in at the last minute if required. It’s not about a pre determined appearance in a dead rubber match.
Who do you want in an important match, who can step in with zero preparation?
Someone with experience of playing in the PL
or,
20 year old keeper who has never played a first team game for any club?
That’s why you have an experienced 3rd choice, and it’s usually their last role before retirement.
Because we need our U23 goalkeepers to play games (either out on loan or with our U23's), not be sitting on the bench every game if one of our main two get injured. It'd be an absolute waste of 6 months of their development if either DDG or Henderson copped an injury for that long.What does Grant even do? Does he ever play football? Why don’t we just give the third spot to a regular U23 GK who at least is match sharp?
Has to be up there with one of our most pointless ever signings
I would have shipped him out, but would have understood giving him another year see if some mug would have paid £5 mill for him. To give him 5 years Ole and/or deadwood should have been sacked for that aloneJones' contract extension is still one of the most bizarre decisions from Ole.
I strongly disagree.Lee Grant is hardly any sort of quality option above our youngsters irrespective of his "experience" .
I would love to see Romero move somewhere decent where he can be the #1; I think he has deserved that after his time as a loyal back-up. But hasn't the window closed?Presume it’s down to Romero getting a move before the end of the window and Jones and Rojo, well, y’know...
Oh I can’t keep up! Cheers!Diallo isn't here until January at the earliest
There are a few places he can go. Inc to the championship.I would love to see Romero move somewhere decent where he can be the #1; I think he has deserved that after his time as a loyal back-up. But hasn't the window closed?
i think he prefers the cash, and maybe likes living were he livesTo have a career at another club
Fair enough. I get your argument. But we don't have 2nd choice back ups who are good enough for a lot of other positions and they are called into action a lot more frequently. We could rotate U23s as a bench keeper if one of the main 2 got injuredThat’s what a third choice keeper is. He’s an experienced player, who knows he’s got 1/200 chance of playing. That’s why you have guys like Grant, or Hart or Green at Chelsea, who are at the end of their careers.
You need to have three keepers, and you don’t want one of your youngsters in that role, as they will never play.
Not a pointless signing at all, he’s insurance - it’s just a lot of people can’t seem to understand the role of a 3rd choice keeper.
Either way, the double standard is shocking.Afro was sold one week or two before Jones contract if i remember correctly, it was praised as Ole knows what Manchester United all about, so he got rid of Mop head. Guess they didnt ask him about that either, not sure whats worse.
Sides love cherry picking.Either way, the double standard is shocking.
