It’s not standard if only 2 players in the entire league are bettering that so it’s irrelevant bringing up what happened in previous seasons. There are so many variables that change from season to season.The whole point is that 18 goals in the PL was amazing for a 37 year old. But for a top striker in their youth or prime, it's pretty standard. Would anyone be blown away by Haaland scoring 18 PL goals next season for example? I'd imagine he's looking for a lot more than that.
Think our club needs a bit of quiet time to let the manager build his team how he thinks fit.Could we actually get a fee for him? That'd be some serious icing for me.
Hes either leaving this summer or next, doesn't fit into a modern front 3 and has now had his swan song with us. Let him go.
Only downside would be the social media circus which I'm sure does actually have some dollar value to the club. But no way is that more than his salary!
Ok, keep believing that 18 goals is a massive amount if you want to. It's up to you.It’s not standard if only 2 players in the entire league are bettering that so it’s irrelevant bringing up what happened in previous seasons. There are so many variables that change from season to season.
And well Halaand is joining a significantly better team than the team Ronaldo played with last season. City create chances for absolute fun. Not comparable, really.
Who do you have as number one?Look I’m not saying he’s not up there as he’s obviously been brilliant for us but he’s not the best player we’ve seen in a United shirt during his time for the club.
this - and not the other stuff about his attitude or ego (neither of which is anywhere close to some other "stars" we've had recently - and got rid of thankfully)Huge loss; its his character in the dressing room but also his goals which will be irreplaceable. We now don't have a striker outside of Martial. Thats it. Martial/Rashford. We just lost 20 goals this season and you dont think thats a loss? You dont think Ronaldo could play in an ETH system? Tell me you know nothing about football without telling me. Yes we shouldnt be building a team around him at this stage of his career - but he was a perfect placeholder for us because we can't fix all our problems in one transfer window - especially when it looks like our budget is about £100-120m and 60 is going on FDJ. We're left with a backup leftback, a number 8, and a backup centre-half (Martinez) probably being our only signings - along with a possible backup midfielder (Eriksen). So this is last years squad, last year's characters, last years idiots who downed tools when they didn't like it - who literally REFUSED to implement Rangnick's system, wouldn't press for him - and the only ones who called them out - Rangnick - was sacked - and Ronaldo - basically forced out because the club wont invest properly.
Obviously, I hope you're right. If you are, we'll finish top four. I'm afraid I don't see that happeningWell you wanted evidence.
And that are the league goals only.
Season before Ronaldo, Bruno scored 18.
Season before that Rashford scored 17.
I could argue that was under Ole, whose philosophy of attacking football is non existant, just let them play and have fun...
We now have a hands on manager who clearly has a plan and is aiming to execute it.
The man is a winner, and he'll make our players winners as well.
I'm pretty confident that Marcus and Bruno can score 20 goals each without Ronaldo.
I honestly think that if Ronaldo had been LW last season and cavani the main striker, we would have made top fourRonaldo at his prime led to the hiding of Benzema and Rooney.
That was as a LW.
As a ST the ‘hiding’ expands to a lot more to the team with him playing more centrally and older.
The same cavani that is almost permanently injured until Uruguay call?I honestly think that if Ronaldo had been LW last season and cavani the main striker, we would have made top four
I said if it had happened!The same cavani that is almost permanently injured until Uruguay call?
Hahaha fair enough!I said if it had happened!
This has to be the worst take ever. On the plus side he scored goals, although not enough to save the season from abject failure. That's not necessarily his fault of course.Huge loss; its his character in the dressing room but also his goals which will be irreplaceable. We now don't have a striker outside of Martial. Thats it. Martial/Rashford. We just lost 20 goals this season and you dont think thats a loss? You dont think Ronaldo could play in an ETH system? Tell me you know nothing about football without telling me.
Yeah but this doesn’t fit with the agenda they’re pushing where it’s all about Ronaldo and United are a distant second as far as priorities go. The teams second place finish prior to his arrival is to be ignored also! We should just beg him to stay and be grateful he did the honour of coming back to help the team to 6th place.What do you mean no evidence?
Season before Ronaldo, Bruno scored 18.
Season before that, Rashford scored 17.
What more evidence do you need?
They are certainly capable of scoring 20 goals per season in the right team.
We also signed Sancho, one of the best English talents around, and Varane, one of the most experienced centre-halves in world football, on top of all the players we had when we finished second and reached the Europa League final the previous season. Yet it's somehow Ronaldo's fault, the same Ronaldo who single-handedly took us to the knockout stages in the Champions League and without whose goals things would have ended much worse, that we finished sixth last season. I'm not having that.Without Ronaldo
We were a better *team* without Ronaldo.
We scored more goals without Ronaldo
We conceded less
We went from 6th to 2nd
With Ronaldo
Our team fell apart
We scored fewer goals
We conceded more goals
We went from 2nd to 6th.
That's a fair point too. There's some upside either way. But it's kind of a test of how committed the owners are to this club being competitive. If we're embarking on a 2-3 year rebuild, they better make that clear.You make a fair point but I just think we may as well clear out any and all who don't want to be here right now and go from there, it's going to take 2-3 seasons realistically before we can reasonably expect a top 4 challenge anyway so if losing Ronaldo means that adds another season I'd take that if it means we're genuinely starting from scratch, he'd have gone next season anyway and I do think we could become a better overall team without him, which may be controversial but that's my opinion.
He’s Ronald’s mate. Best player that’s ever lived. Not your usual 37 year old.As in they're going to pack up because a 37 year old striker wants to leave.
Not the best of his generation let alone ever. Ronald may be though.He’s Ronald’s mate. Best player that’s ever lived. Not your usual 37 year old.
Ronaldo is one of the only players whose wage will not be affected by missing the CL.I hate contract rebels. If he was so particular about CL qualification or silverware as a minimum to stay he shd have factored those issues into his contract. I just suspect a lush wad has turned his head.
His 7 time balón dors winning contemporary is well above him, but that's another story.He’s Ronald’s mate. Best player that’s ever lived. Not your usual 37 year old.
18 league goals (3rd top scorer in the PL) for arguably the worst United side ever. 6 in 6 in the CL before the KO rounds with all being game winning or game tying goals. He’s far from finished.The problem with Ronaldo is he thinks he’s still the player he was 10 years ago.
He would be a great squad player for a top team. Anything else, he’s finished at the top level.
Real were smart enough to sell him when his value was high but he was starting to lose the edge. Should have been the first red flag for us or any serious club chasing them. No chance they’ll take him back, 0.Let’s tell him he can go to Real next summer, we promise.
Let me put it in other words.18 league goals (3rd top scorer in the PL) for arguably the worst United side ever. 6 in 6 in the CL before the KO rounds with all being game winning or game tying goals. He’s far from finished.
The "worst United side ever" (laughable claim given that United were relegated in the 70s) finished 2nd without him and played much better without him.18 league goals (3rd top scorer in the PL) for arguably the worst United side ever. 6 in 6 in the CL before the KO rounds with all being game winning or game tying goals. He’s far from finished.
They were probably hoping Greenwood was going to be, they previously hoped the likes of Wilson and Keane would be until injuries hampered them them from playing at the top level.Why is it we’ve not had a proper striker for years, I mean a young one we can develop, since fergie left it seems we’ve gone for short term options upfront just to try and get us through a season and end it with a trophy. We’ve had ibra, ighalo, cavani, Ronaldo. Think it’s time we take this position serious… scout South America for some talent, they normally have some young strikers with lots of potential.
I'm not sure Rashford is made for ETH's football at all.Well you wanted evidence.
And that are the league goals only.
Season before Ronaldo, Bruno scored 18.
Season before that Rashford scored 17.
I could argue that was under Ole, whose philosophy of attacking football is non existant, just let them play and have fun...
We now have a hands on manager who clearly has a plan and is aiming to execute it.
The man is a winner, and he'll make our players winners as well.
I'm pretty confident that Marcus and Bruno can score 20 goals each without Ronaldo.
He went about 10 games scoring 1 goal, the end of the season hat tricks glossed over a totally forgettable winter period and has clouded peoples judgement on his actual season as a whole in my opinionOk, keep believing that 18 goals is a massive amount if you want to. It's up to you.
Rashford & Bruno to return 40 goals is pure fantasy.People really have little faith in the new manager.
If he could make Haller and Tadić score goals i'm quite certain he'll make Rashford and Bruno score goals.
Not to mention Sancho and the possible adition of Antony.
Rashford and Bruno with 20 each, Sancho and Antony with 10 and that's 60 goals.
It's not like Ronaldo made some sick numbers in attack, he what, scored 18 goals?
It was a joke about the first time he wanted to leave. Flew rigut overReal were smart enough to sell him when his value was high but he was starting to lose the edge. Should have been the first red flag for us or any serious club chasing them. No chance they’ll take him back, 0.
My bad!It was a joke about the first time he wanted to leave. Flew rigut over
Haha it’s alright. I should have put an emojiMy bad!
