its all a bit premature
but he's now got a headstart on Eric...hes achieving in Europe which is something Eric never did
but he's now got a headstart on Eric...hes achieving in Europe which is something Eric never did
Ronaldo: The best since Best (great article)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
He's done it in the Euros and World Cup too. This season he's been by the far the best player in the world. But to become a true great he'll have to do consistently for a few seasons.
People lets not get carried away.The talent is there for all of us to revel in but this kind of talk should only occur during the summer when we are all bored with no football being played.Lets face it, the boy hasn't won anything major yet.The only reason why Pele and Maradona are remembered is because they won world cups, in the case of Pele two and Maradona very nearly emulating that similar feat.Ronaldo is obviously at a very erly stage in his career and there are bound to be opportunities to win things BUT until he has actually won them he is going to be just another extraordinarily talented player that people might not be talking about in 30 odd years to come.
For him to be recognized as the number one player in world football he has to keep this level up for at least 2-3 seasons
To be fair Cantona was going up against some pretty good players at the time. You look at who Ronaldo is going up against and apart from Kaka and Drogba many of the so called top players are well out of form at this moment.
Didn't Ronaldinho have a few OK seasons with PSG (didn't score that many, didn't have that many assists, but did some spectacular things that made him so coveted by the top clubs who saw his potential), then got to Barca and got recognized as the best player in the world, winning awards, after ONE great season there?
Very true. Cantona had a hell of a lot more to contend with in the 90s. As you say, there are few there to rival Ronaldo at the moment.
Eto'o and Ronaldinho are having problems at Barca.
Henry has been injured for ages.
Zidane's gone.
Yes. And that's the only great season he's had. (and was awful at the world cup too.)
Fanny footballer.
Yes, but he never did it in Europe. In fact Fergie released this, after our defeat in the CL semi final to Dortmund, and decided to move on.
SAF on Ronaldo signing, clearing up an old myth that the players told him to sign up Ronaldo.
"We were on the case for Ronaldo for 15/16 years of age. We had a deal to sign him two years after we played that friendly but we had to move because Arsenal, Madrid were in for him so we made the move. You don't get performances like he made against us every week. It's good to get an opinion off of players and that friendly was different for what our players were saying".
"We were on the case for Ronaldo for 15/16 years of age. We had a deal to sign him two years after we played that friendly but we had to move because Arsenal, Madrid were in for him so we made the move. You don't get performances like he made against us every week. It's good to get an opinion off of players and that friendly was different for what our players were saying".
Agree. That`s the point really. Best and most influential aren`t the same things.
The greediness part is called a team plan, he is our designated runner and carrier of the ball over long distances, the emotions are what human beings feel.It is obvious that the person that wrote this piece couldn't find a better criticism of the boy OR he is a deluded hack who thinks that footballers shouldn't show emotions or passion much like the brigade that criticised Gary Neville's celebrations against the scousers.immeasurably since his arrival at United for £12.24m in 2003, but there remains an immaturity about him that is sometimes overlooked in the driving runs and jinking dribbles. He still plays like the most skilful kid in the playground, direct and greedy, and his anguished reactions to near misses tell a story. All those pained stares at the sky and fingers dragged down his face are the sign of a young man who knows the camera is on him and desperately wants everyone to see how much he cares.
I don`t really think it was meant as critcism, more as an observation. All of it is true as well.
Cristiano has everything to be better than any of the players who have played at Old Trafford.
It's up to him. Upto the coaching staff and upto the team to give him that stage to fulfill his talent and what his ability suggests he can accomplish...
It's up to him. Upto the coaching staff and upto the team to give him that stage to fulfill his talent and what his ability suggests he can accomplish...
Cantona was handicapped by his feud with Ginlola, Houllier and Jacquet. If it hadn't been for that he would have been the main man for France too imo.
This is good
Maybe that's the case.
But there is no way he will be the most important or most influential player the club has ever had. He is brilliant no doubt but Cantona led the line more.
I have no doubt whatsoever when i say that Cantona is and always will be the greatest United player ever.
Even more so that players from the 60s team.
I'm in total agreement with this says the chief
Which is clearly bollocks.
Why, did Cantona have to achieve that to earn his status?
Pele won 3 world cups .. 58 62 70
The one and only reason why he is the greatest in the world. You can't argue with that.
Yeah it's a little premature. I'm sure we would all love if Ronnie outshined Cantona but we'll have to wait a bit for that. I suppose one thing that can be said is that domestically Cantona was outstanding but wasn't the best in terms of the European stage. Ronnie has been so so in Europe, and had a cracking game against Roma. We'll have to wait another 2 seasons to see how consistent he is in Europe
tosser ... i can't even make sense of that comment and what the feck you are alluding to .. the dirge that comes from your keyboard is often incorrect highly opinionated bollocks often rounded off with a stupid fecking smiley icon or a cnutish sunglasses icon worthy of a 6 year old - you are so far up your own arse it's beyond a fecking joke .. when proved wrong for example by the likes of brad cantona or jasonrh you revert to immature ' i was only messing around ' ' don't take me so seriously ' bollox excuses - you are a prick of he highest order and i've just wasted my last post on you.The one and only reason why he is the greatest in the world. You can't argue with that.
back to the point in question add to Pele's 3 world cup winners medals, 1281 career goals, a sublime first touch, genius vision, vast tanks of energy, explosive speed and a lethal shot, even though he carried a knee injury most of his career and you are looking at probably the greatest player ever to play the game and that includes the genius that was george best and the dirty cheating cnut maradonna
No way is Ronaldo better than Cantona.
Look at the teams they played in for feck sake?
cnuts.
Look at the teams they played in for feck sake?
cnuts.
Sorry for being a compilation geek but this Ronaldo comp form this season is excellent.
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v359590N3tz4X5h?searchId=1419542036893852016&rank=9
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v359590N3tz4X5h?searchId=1419542036893852016&rank=9
The argument about Ronaldo vs Cantona vs Best sounds like an argument between sons - fathers - grandfathers.
or daughters - mothers - grandmothers, not to be sexist.
or daughters - mothers - grandmothers, not to be sexist.
Yes Brazilians who play at one of the top Italian or Spanish sides only need to have one good season before they are regarded the best, Sheva and Henry imo have been better and most consistent over a longer period didn't get the credit they deserved. That said in the last 2.5 seasons (not incl this one) he has been majestic for Barca to be fair.
I don't think the quality around the world is quite at the level it was say 5-10 years ago. This season in particular it is strange how few top players are on top form. The generation before are gone but with the newer one all the players haven't quite stepped up yet.
To be fair your lot weren't that experience in Europe at that stage either. That said how well has Ronaldo or Rooney done in Europe? The likes of Beckham, Scholes, Giggs, Keane were all fantastic in that competition. Especially Beckham.
Kind of confirmed some rumours there, strong rumours we had a £6/7mill bid accepted and all of a sudden your lot came in with a much higher bid and hijacked the deal. Ahh well another one to the add to the list of could of joined....
Ronaldo may be a better player than Cantona but he will never do as much for or mean as much to the club.
and i don't think anyone ever will.
and i don't think anyone ever will.
for pure skill...think Ronaldo has a ways to equal Best...Best was not about tricks..he did'nt have to think or practice some of what he did...it came so naturally... now I am in no way talking down Ronaldo...he is gifted...only Maradona imo was as good as Best..if Ronaldo can prove this form over a few more years...yes...I will say so...