Roy Keane blasts Manchester United "cry babies"

[el3mel]

This picture shows respect for me. From 2 men who in one form or another were once at the top of their game. Not uncommon they clash. A great player vs great manager should be quite a common feeling for Keano.

It was the game when Chelsea were winning and Mourinho wanted to leave early so went and tapped Keane shoulder. He considered it a disrespect and said later in his book it was "disgraceful".

He also played under the greatest manager of all time. Which probably was a big reason why he had the mentality he did. If he had someone else mourinho for example he wouldn't of lasted or got to the level he eventually did.

Again, he had slaughtered Mourinho several times. He's not choosing any side.

 

[Z1L3]

And pretty much every older generation says that about their successors - it doesn't make them right.

Actually, it does. Science has proven things like testosterone levels in men have been declining for decades, music has turned to crap, etc. It's a brave new world.

 

[mancan92]

Sterling was challenging for the league and almost won it under Liverpool, and him and Stones have endured shite ton of criticism thrown at them from the media regarding their price tag and performance and still did their job on the pitch. They're actually tougher than what you believe.

Haha are you serious ? So you will defend what the city players are doing but say that players like pogba and lukaku are mentally weak? Sterling hasn't endured what pogba has. Pogba came to a country he didn't know twice as a young player and learnt a new language and managed to become one of the best young players of his generation and a world cup winner. Lukaku similarly.

Sterling hasn't even shown the level of mentality pogba has and neither has stones. The only person at city to have reached pogbas level of experience is Silva

 

[el3mel]

Haha are you serious ? So you will defend what the city players are doing but say that players like pogba and lukaku are mentally weak? Sterling hasn't endured what pogba has. Pogba came to a country he didn't know twice as a young player and learnt a new language and managed to become one of the best young players of his generation and a world cup winner. Lukaku similarly.

Sterling hasn't even shown the level of mentality pogba has and neither has stones. The only person at city to have reached pogbas level of experience is Silva

Sterling was about to win the league with Liverpool and was part of Suarez-Sterling-Sturridge trio, and won it with City while scoring loads, in fact their second goal scorer after Aguero. He has proved himself in 2 teams now, his only success wasn't under Pep otherwise they wouldn't have bought him for 50m then. He has endured shite thrown at him from media about his playing, life style and racism and was still doing his job and helping his team winning titles. Of course he had done in England far more than Pogba did in England and even under fecking Rodgers in Liverpool not just under Pep. You'r trying to implement he has only became good under Pep but that's not true. He was always underrated.

No one would have cared about what Pogba, Lingard and anyone else of our team doing on social media or in their life if they're winning United titles. They talk about it because they're seeing a failing team not even challenging for titles under any manager but so much up their arse on social media so they can't get how can both occur. If we win the league next season, no one will ever talk about Pogba's haircuts or social media because he would have proven everyone wrong, like what Sterling has been doing. The pundits are just seeing a bunch of players who look like all talk but nothing to justify it on the pitch for United, hence the criticism of their life style.

If United players want to shut everyone up, it's simple just go and win the league. No one will care about their social media or hair cut when this happens.

 

[Raees]

Slightly different you're talking about a club paying you world class wages with world class facilities...not serving up ham sandwiches before games!
They basically didn't like a manager wanting them to run the hard yards when they thought their game would be easier if they just did what they liked. Keane was right to shout out because he had thoughts of winning when the Irish around him were happy to be there. He didn't need a mou type to convince him the positives of effort to the cause. But that was his game so its different. He was right to call out some of the averageness showing itself at our club as well in some seasons. He was doing that with the great players of some seasons he didn't change in that respect. It's called upholding a standard and showing everyone what it means. His influence wained and only because of that...was he shown the door with us. If he was 25.....he could have called anyone anything and he did!

So it is okay for Keane to desert his team in their time of need, in pursuit of this 'higher standards' of professionalism ideal (bearing in mind he was an alcoholic, who drank before games and liked frequenting the pub instead of being a total pro - but lets put that to side because in fairness he was a pro on the pitch) but when a world cup winner like Pogba decides he's had enough with the manager's lack of 'coaching' and amatuerish petty environment, where no one seems to be enjoying themselves, everyone is being thrown under the bus on a weekly basis without just cause, players being dropped even when they have scored three goals in a row (See Martial last year) - it is not okay?

You're coming across like a hypocrite.

 

[Raees]

Why? At a time when we still look for leaders you sound like the game doesn't need determined individuals who call it how they see it. In every walk of life today they flourish and always will. Bending to the will of rich kids who's main focus is not the game itself.....that's not the future of sport unless thats how fans make it! They will always be dominated by the kid who works the hardest coupled with the same amount of talent. And if they are outspoken of those around them....they'll get away with it whilst they themselves are at the top of their game...seems like a positive to me! If pogs was at his best saying Lingard wasnt good enough for our club......fan's would follow suit in agreement (hell they are saying it now)...and that would not harm our club if that was happening right? They are weak...if their focus switches from the goal of simply giving 100% to winning a football match....and thats happened!

The likes of Cruyff, Maradona were involved with many commercial or shady things off the pitch, just to name but a few... and in Maradona's case, a very shitty lifestyle off the pitch.

Now the intention is not to say Pogba and Lingard are in their company, but to point out that having a life outside of football or interests outside of the game does not exclude a footballer from reaching their potential. There is much more factors which go in to it. In Lingard's case, it might just be a lack of elite level ability i.e. he simply doesn't have it, he doesn't have the personality to be a top baller as in he just lacks the aggression or real willingness to put his body on the line, or it might be he needs more better coaching - he has potential but lacks the tactical instructions, or right set of technical coaching to get him to the requisite level. Or it could just be that he's so focused on stuff off the pitch, he lacks the focus to perform on it - though it didn't seem to hamper him in the World Cup.

Bottom line is there are endless reasons why a given player might not be performing. However when there is an entire squad of mostly international level footballers underperforming, and not a single one performing with any merit and you even have the world's best or top 3 goalkeepers, making uncharacteristic errors and looking a shadow of himself... then I am sorry, it is the most black and white conclusion in the world. For all Pogba's and Lingard's potential faults, it is absolutely clear Mourinho was not the right man to get the best out of anyone in the squad and was the main reason behind such a huge divergence from what our level should be and what it has been especially during this season.

The likes of Keane need to shut their mouths when it comes to any 'Jose was let down' comments, because quite frankly - they're talking out of their arses. He was underperforming by a massive margin even accounting for the fact certain players might not be as good as they're made out to be.

That United squad should be a top 4 side.

 

[mancan92]

Sterling was about to win the league with Liverpool and was part of Suarez-Sterling-Sturridge trio, and won it with City while scoring loads, in fact their second goal scorer after Aguero. He has proved himself in 2 teams now, his only success wasn't under Pep otherwise they wouldn't have bought him for 50m then. He has endured shite thrown at him from media about his playing, life style and racism and was still doing his job and helping his team winning titles. Of course he had done in England far more than Pogba did in England and even under fecking Rodgers in Liverpool not just under Pep. You'r trying to implement he has only became good under Pep but that's not true. He was always underrated.

No one would have cared about what Pogba, Lingard and anyone else of our team doing on social media or in their life if they're winning United titles. They talk about it because they're seeing a failing team not even challenging for titles under any manager but so much up their arse on social media so they can't get how can both occur. If we win the league next season, no one will ever talk about Pogba's haircuts or social media because he would have proven everyone wrong, like what Sterling has been doing. The pundits are just seeing a bunch of players who look like all talk but nothing to justify it on the pitch for United, hence the criticism of their life style.

If United players want to shut everyone up, it's simple just go and win the league. No one will care about their social media or hair cut when this happens.

Pogba has done more in football than sterling that much is obvious. Pogba came here as a kid who knew no English and became one of our most exciting talents. Then went to another new country among great players established himself as one 9f the greatest players in the world won titles etc. He has since won a world cup. Seriously if you are going to argue that sterling has a good mentality it would be ridiculous to argue pogba doesnt have a super mentality. Italy is a far more racist place than the UK. The abuse he got there was more than sterling has ever seen.

Be serious if sterling was swapped with pogba who do you think would of had a better season ? Do you think sterling would of out performed pogba under mourinho?

 

[RedorDead21]

The likes of Cruyff, Maradona were involved with many commercial or shady things off the pitch, just to name but a few... and in Maradona's case, a very shitty lifestyle off the pitch.

Now the intention is not to say Pogba and Lingard are in their company, but to point out that having a life outside of football or interests outside of the game does not exclude a footballer from reaching their potential. There is much more factors which go in to it. In Lingard's case, it might just be a lack of elite level ability i.e. he simply doesn't have it, he doesn't have the personality to be a top baller as in he just lacks the aggression or real willingness to put his body on the line, or it might be he needs more better coaching - he has potential but lacks the tactical instructions, or right set of technical coaching to get him to the requisite level. Or it could just be that he's so focused on stuff off the pitch, he lacks the focus to perform on it - though it didn't seem to hamper him in the World Cup.

Bottom line is there are endless reasons why a given player might not be performing. However when there is an entire squad of mostly international level footballers underperforming, and not a single one performing with any merit and you even have the world's best or top 3 goalkeepers, making uncharacteristic errors and looking a shadow of himself... then I am sorry, it is the most black and white conclusion in the world. For all Pogba's and Lingard's potential faults, it is absolutely clear Mourinho was not the right man to get the best out of anyone in the squad and was the main reason behind such a huge divergence from what our level should be and what it has been especially during this season.

The likes of Keane need to shut their mouths when it comes to any 'Jose was let down' comments, because quite frankly - they're talking out of their arses. He was underperforming by a massive margin even accounting for the fact certain players might not be as good as they're made out to be.

That United squad should be a top 4 side.

Well in fairness I'm not sure anyone will give Lingard more game time than Mou. We had a hybrid Mou. Giving young players game time. He wouldn't look twice at these lads at any other club lets be honest and he said he had to change his views on that with us. He should have just been himself, allowed to buy experienced lads and go with that.....if thats infact what you want...which we didn't!

 

[Buster15]

What is the modern footballer?

I wonder that as well.
People seem to love labelling other people, often without knowing anything about them.

In exactly the same way, people call older people dinosaur - Jose Mourinho, Roy Keane.

Younger people can have old heads while older people can still understand the way this generation think.

Stop labelling individuals.

 

[el3mel]

Pogba has done more in football than sterling that much is obvious. Pogba came here as a kid who knew no English and became one of our most exciting talents. Then went to another new country among great players established himself as one 9f the greatest players in the world won titles etc. He has since won a world cup. Seriously if you are going to argue that sterling has a good mentality it would be ridiculous to argue pogba doesnt have a super mentality. Italy is a far more racist place than the UK. The abuse he got there was more than sterling has ever seen.

British pundits don't care about abroad they only care about England that's all. If Pogba and rest of the team want to shut them up they have to do it here and win United the league the next few seasons. That's when everyone will stop talking about their life style and social media like City players. They're simply talking about it now because they look at the team and think they're just all talk. They have to prove them wrong starting from next season and here.

 

[RedorDead21]

Pogba has done more in football than sterling that much is obvious. Pogba came here as a kid who knew no English and became one of our most exciting talents. Then went to another new country among great players established himself as one 9f the greatest players in the world won titles etc. He has since won a world cup. Seriously if you are going to argue that sterling has a good mentality it would be ridiculous to argue pogba doesnt have a super mentality. Italy is a far more racist place than the UK. The abuse he got there was more than sterling has ever seen.

Be serious if sterling was swapped with pogba who do you think would of had a better season ? Do you think sterling would of out performed pogba under mourinho?

You are only as good as what you are doing and Sterling is better than Pogs...miles ahead.

 

[Raees]

Well in fairness I'm not sure anyone will give Lingard more game time than Mou. We had a hybrid Mou. Giving young players game time. He wouldn't look twice at these lads at any other club lets be honest and he said he had to change his views on that with us. He should have just been himself, allowed to buy experienced lads and go with that.....if thats infact what you want...which we didn't!

Yes, allowed to buy Toby for £60m (aged 29) despite him not being at his peak like he once was. Buy Perisic (aged 29) for £50m and £66m for Willian (aged 30). How would that have brought us anywhere near to Man City? and even if it did hypothetically for one season - they would have dropped off in terms of performances and value... (no chance Jose's grinding style and negative demeanour could have kept that United ship sailing for longer than this season) and we would be fecked with paying high wages and zero resale value.

Did Jose give Lingard lots of games? yes. Did he develop Lingard's game to the point where he was as productive for his club as he is for England? no. Did he focus on Lingard's creativity, and attacking threat? no... he used him more as a workhorse. Does Lingard even deserve to have played as many games as he did for United? should we have had a better right winger than Lingard by now after nearly 3 years of Jose... yes and all Jose could suggest as an alternative was a 30 year old Willian - who would have been a upgrade, but not £66m worth of an upgrade. It was lazy management by him to just look at previous players who played for him.

 

[RedorDead21]

Yes, allowed to buy Toby for £60m (aged 29) despite him not being at his peak like he once was. Buy Perisic (aged 29) for £50m and £66m for Willian (aged 30). How would that have brought us anywhere near to Man City? and even if it did hypothetically for one season - they would have dropped off in terms of performances and value... (no chance Jose's grinding style and negative demeanour could have kept that United ship sailing for longer than this season) and we would be fecked with paying high wages and zero resale value.

Did Jose give Lingard lots of games? yes. Did he develop Lingard's game to the point where he was as productive for his club as he is for England? no. Did he focus on Lingard's creativity, and attacking threat? no... he used him more as a workhorse. Does Lingard even deserve to have played as many games as he did for United? should we have had a better right winger than Lingard by now after nearly 3 years of Jose... yes and all Jose could suggest as an alternative was a 30 year old Willian - who would have been a upgrade, but not £66m worth of an upgrade. It was lazy management by him to just look at previous players who played for him.

Those players you mentioned added to our team average age is alright for me? A few leaders? And their is quality there.

In fact i'd like all those?

 

[mancan92]

You are only as good as what you are doing and Sterling is better than Pogs...miles ahead.

Yet sterling was playing under a better manager and with a better team.

Let's see sterling under mourinho.

I didn't see sterling win the world cup with England or dominate in another country.

 

[el3mel]

Yet sterling was playing under a better manager and with a better team.

Let's see sterling under mourinho.

I didn't see sterling win the world cup with England or dominate in another country.

Mourinho is now gone, should we start expecting from Pogba and co a title challenge next season and a league title in the few upcoming years or that's too much to ask from them ?

 

[.Rossi]

Agree to a certain extent.

I have massive doubts over the ability and mentality of a lot of our players but, Mourinho is just as bad for throwing various people under the bus.

I shared his frustrations with Martial, as I know he can be amazing. However, briefing the media that he'll happily sell him was shitty.

I'm still of the opinion Zlatan's injury and him going was what kick started the downfall. You cant help but look up to the guy. He's very much a highly influencial player and leader. I'm a cynical cock head, I'm 30 years of age but, even I went out and got an Ibrahimovic Jersey.

Anyways, its done now. No going back. Thankful Mourinho got the chance to manage us, I'm sad he didn't adapt and make a major success of it. Hopefully he finds some happiness in his life now and we are at last on the road back to where we belong

 

[mancan92]

Mourinho is now gone, should we start expecting from Pogba and co a title challenge next season and a league title in the few upcoming years or that's too much to ask from them ?

Well for sure if we get a good manager in with structure of course we expect to perform. At least to the level he performs for France l.

 

[Raees]

Those players you mentioned added to our team average age is alright for me? A few leaders? And their is quality there.

Toby is a leader, but he's also the same leader who wanted to desert his team for a bigger pay packet and was unable in his prime to drag Spurs to league titles when the league was wide open for Spurs to take... Liverpool/City/United in transition, Chelsea in freefall under guess who.

Perisic and Willian leaders? they're good footballers.. if we were talking about them at age 25-27, they would be good signings but I wouldn't say their 'leadership' is what marks them out as such valuable footballers, to the extent it would make up for their diminishing physical returns and performance levels. For smaller fees, they would be worth a punt sure.. but for £50m plus? even in the current market, sheer madness. You wouldn't see Barca, Real, Bayern, Liverpool, City go for these players let alone for such huge money - so why the feck are we?

 

[el3mel]

Well for sure if we get a good manager in with structure of course we expect to perform. At least to the level he performs for France l.

We need a title challenge next season and we need it badly. I won't say a league title but next season is 7th post SAF and will be mental if we don't challenge for the league again. Next season I'm expecting a serious title challenge from the players, that's for sure if they're arsed to prove everyone of these pundits wrong.

 

[mancan92]

We need a title challenge next season and we need it badly. I won't say a league title but next season is 7th post SAF and will be mental if we don't challenge for the league again. Next season I'm expecting a serious title challenge from the players, that's for sure if they're arsed to prove everyone of these pundits wrong.

Agreed. That's what I believe we will see with a manager with a better mentality

 

[Frankstaple!]

He also played under the greatest manager of all time. Which probably was a big reason why he had the mentality he did. If he had someone else mourinho for example he wouldn't of lasted or got to the level he eventually did.

Don't believe this for 1 second.

Fergie bought him because of his drive, determination and leadership qualities that he could see in him when he was a forest.
Fergie didn't teach him to be a winner he already had that in him from a youngster and will stay with him all his life.

Its not the size of the dog in a fight it's the size of the fight in the dog.

 

[JPRouve]

@mancan92 When you hear what Conte has to say about Pogba then it's hard to understand where this image of Pogba comes from.

"Paul I have had the opportunity in the past to train, for many years. We are talking about a top player - a top player in all situations, even in his commitment to training.
"He's always trying to improve himself, he has good technique, physically he's strong, great stamina. We are talking about a top, top player."

Conte and Keane are from the same generation, Deschamps feels the same about Pogba. So it's not a generational problem, you have two successful coaches that have both been big leaders in big clubs who thinks that there is nothing wrong with Pogba's character. Neither seem to have issue with him.
Griezmann is absolutely loved by Simeone of all people despite, Antoine's social media presence and all the things that he does on and around the pitch.

 

[RedorDead21]

Toby is a leader, but he's also the same leader who wanted to desert his team for a bigger pay packet and was unable in his prime to drag Spurs to league titles when the league was wide open for Spurs to take... Liverpool/City/United in transition, Chelsea in freefall under guess who.

Perisic and Willian leaders? they're good footballers.. if we were talking about them at age 25-27, they would be good signings but I wouldn't say their 'leadership' is what marks them out as such valuable footballers, to the extent it would make up for their diminishing physical returns and performance levels. For smaller fees, they would be worth a punt sure.. but for £50m plus? even in the current market, sheer madness. You wouldn't see Barca, Real, Bayern, Liverpool, City go for these players let alone for such huge money - so why the feck are we?

Buying a 29 year old player is not a bad thing. Zidane was that age right when he went to real. Get the right player in and he dicks on us as Zidane did in his hey day at that age!

 

[RedorDead21]

@mancan92 When you hear what Conte has to say about Pogba then it's hard to understand where this image of Pogba comes from.



Conte and Keane are from the same generation, Deschamps feels the same about Pogba. So it's not a generational problem, you have two successful coaches that have both been big leaders in big clubs who thinks that there is nothing wrong with Pogba's character. Neither seem to have issue with him.
Griezmann is absolutely loved by Simeone of all people despite, Antoine's social media presence and all the things that he does on and around the pitch.

We've just seen pogs down tools and collect his money and you are suggesting his character is good? Because he didn't like a manager who's won more CL's than he maybe will ever win? all trophies for that matter.

 

[royboy16]

Keane came up with the goods on the pitch despite having been out for a night.

Exactly,he rarely had a bad game for us.

 

[JPRouve]

We've just seen pogs down tools and collect his money and you are suggesting his character is good? Because he didn't like a manager who's won more CL's than he maybe will ever win? all trophies for that matter.

You think that he down tooled, I saw a player out of form after an injury.

 

[Inter Yer Nan]

Keane can't Mourinho so he doesn't really have an agenda here he's just speaking the truth. His comments are spot on.

 

[simonhch]

Shambolic and cretinous? This is Roy Keane you're talking about right? Our Roy Keane. In what sense is he a cretin: Mentally deficient, literally suffering from cretinism? He's an absolute bloody madman, but he isn't some kind of 1970s style uber man, nor is he harking back to the good old days (he specifically said "good school" not "old school"). You seem to remember many of his less productive expressions of this lunacy, but do you not remember his many positive traits and achievements also driven by this lunacy? You know, wearing the red of our team as the greatest captain we ever had? I don't recall him putting in anything other than 100% and he drove others to do so too, irrespective of conditions. I call this professionalism and packing it in when times get hard is not a generational trait, but a human one. I like the fact that Keane wouldn't tolerate throwing in the towel and one assumes that he is able to communicate and lead in ways other than repeatedly punching dabbing headphone wearing man children in the face whilst grinding glass into his own forehead mainly evidenced by the fact that he is neither sectioned nor in jail.
Also dinosaurs were an unbelievably successful group of creatures who were highly adaptive and existed in all environments for over 240 million years and, literally, still thrive right now. It's a dreadful analogy and makes precisely the opposite point from the one I assume you're choosing to make about Roy Keane, all Man Utd fan's favourite shambolic cretin.
I assume you got the Bumper Book of Hyperbolic Cliched Insults for Xmas?

Agreed. He's somehow secondary to players like Pogs. God I'd like to see them both on the same pitch in their prime and we'd see how 100% commitment fares against Pogs! Hell I've seen bang average PL players dominate him. Not because he isn't talented enough. Because he's not feeling it! Vieira was basically a pogs with commitment to the team. And a player worthy of comparison. I love Pogs although it doesnt seem like it. He can and hopefully will reach a level above them both. But pricking him to reach those levels, whether its ex players or current managers...I really don't mind it. He hasn't got Ronaldo's mentality.....I know that because Pogs will sacrifice a season in his prime...to rid himself of a manager he doesn't rate...a high cost!

You are both missing the point entirely. His qualities as a player have nothing to do with his ability to produce critically sensible thinking. His opinion on this subject just shows a very poor understanding of the nuances of leadership and management. I would kill for a player of his desire and mentality in today’s team, but the reality is that lambasting the players you have, isn’t the way to instill that in others. He’s tried that directly himself, and had a terrible management career as a result.

 

[Kaj45rpm]

I would have one Roy Keane on the pitch before 10 Paul Pogba's.

These players are overpaid and as recent affairs have proved can get away with not trying 100 %.

Time will tell over next few months if they have it in them. Put into perspective, they are earning £1M a MONTH!

If that does not motivate you then they shouldn't be playing for Man Utd.
I want to see them giving 100% every game and coming off the park knowing they have given their all.

I've not seen much evidence of this, this season. Roy Keane was a legend for our club but how many of this squad will remembered as such.

 

[noodlehair]

Onnlly Roy Keane could give an interview about a specific subject and manage to use it to insult every single footballer in the world.

 

[SER19]

I would have one Roy Keane on the pitch before 10 Paul Pogba's.

On this there is not even a discussion. Prime keane would have absolutely destroyed Pogba 100/100 times. That’s the case for a lot of modern players but I truly think the difference would be staggering between these two. Keane is a criminally underrated ‘footballer’ but all the qualities he is actually lauded for, work rate, aggression, fearlessness would see him dominate Pogba all day. This is after all the same Pogba that has been made to look like a boy by some very average pl midfielders.

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

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[SteveJ]

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Yeah, he sounds nothing like a cry-baby:

Mavericks player Dirk Nowitzki said about Cuban:

"He's got to learn how to control himself as well as the players do. We can't lose our temper all the time on the court or off the court, and I think he's got to learn that, too. He's got to improve in that area and not yell at the officials the whole game. I don't think that helps us ... He sits right there by our bench. I think it's a bit much. But we all told him this before. It's nothing new. The game starts, and he's already yelling at them. So he needs to know how to control himself a little."

 

[NinjaZombie]

This picture shows respect for me. From 2 men who in one form or another were once at the top of their game. Not uncommon they clash. A great player vs great manager should be quite a common feeling for Keano.

That was Mourinho being a cnut. Shaking hands and leaving before full-time because his side was leading and he was sure they'd see it out.

And the guy has the temerity to chastise Conte for celebrating like a mad dog against us.

 

[devilish]

From SAF's autobiography

"I asked what the problem was. Carlos explained that Roy considered the houses at Vale do Lobo to be beneath the required standard and was not willing to stay in his. According to Carlos, Roy had rejected the first house because one of the rooms lacked air conditioning. The second threw up a similar problem. The third, which I saw, was a fantastic house. Roy wouldn’t take it. He wanted to stay in the next village, Quinta do Lago, with his family. That first night, we organised a barbecue on the patio of the hotel. It was beautifully presented. Roy approached me and said he needed to talk to me. ‘Roy, come on, not now. We’ll talk in the morning,’ I said. After training I pulled him to one side. ‘What’s going on, Roy?’ I started. ‘I’ve looked at the houses, they’re fine.’ Roy erupted, issuing a long list of complaints, which included the air conditioning. Then he started on Carlos. Why were we doing the pre-season here?, and so on. It was all criticism. It placed a strain on his relationship with us. He became quite reclusive, I thought, on that tour. I was disappointed. Carlos had worked his socks off to make the trip right for everyone. When the visit was over, I resolved to bring Roy up to the office to at least get him to say sorry to Carlos. He was having none of it.

When we were embroiled in an argument once, Roy said to me, ‘You’ve changed.’ I replied, ‘Roy, I will have changed, because today is not yesterday. It’s a different world we’re in now. We have players from twenty different countries in here. You say I’ve changed? I hope I have. I would never have survived if I hadn’t changed.’ He said: ‘You’re not the same man.’ We had a real set-to. A proper argument. I told him he was out of order. ‘You’re the captain. You
showed no responsibility to the other players. It’s not as if we asked you to live in a hovel. They were nice houses. Good places.’"

Thank god he wasn't a cry baby.

 

[flappyjay]

You think that he down tooled, I saw a player out of form after an injury.

For some reason the period when Mourinho was supposed to get sacked around that Newcastle game has been erased from memory. When everyone was banging on about Jose having lost the dressing room and was about to get sacked Pogba was one of the people who played well for him. He sustained that injury and came back in bad form and some of the fan base along with Jose made him the scapegoat

 

[MackRobinson]

It's true. I have that page of his biography bookmarked. He said something like 'as they emerged from the tents, I knew these were not the faces of winners'. That's not an exact quote but it's not far off.

Winners take a 3am flashbang in their stride

You sir have won the internet for today. I'm dying with laughter at the bolded.

 

[Miscemayl]

This is probably why he won't make it as a manager....

He's not wrong, it's frustrating to watch our club being taken over by player power but I guess that's just the way it is. We care more about money and assets than winning and trophies.

 

[Adisa]

From SAF's autobiography



Thank god he wasn't a cry baby.

Fantastic find.
The difference between this and Mourinho is that Mourinho would have made this grievance public and social media would be ablaze with people throwing the same accusations at Roy Keane as they are throwing at Pogba.
I don't know why people can't see this.

 

[Sereques]

Another reason Roy will never be a good manager.