Well I'm just finished 'the book' and I enjoyed it immensely. I think it's because it's pretty much how I want Keane to be. Is that what he was going for, the devious media-savvy bastard? Fair play, if it was, he's nailed it. Very honest and enlightening insight on his time at Sunderland and Ipswich. I hated him at Ipswich, all those rent-a-quote pressers. He never looked like he was enjoying himself. We've all got our angle on Roy, I want him to be content with the Irish set-up and he sounds like he's enjoying it, he loved United and doesn't mind saying it now, he held his hand up for all the shitty stuff I never liked at the time....yeah, a really good read.
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Some unreported Gems from the book:
On leaving Sunderland
On a confrontation with Coppell
On leaving Sunderland
On a confrontation with Coppell
That exchange with Yorke
I didn't like that, with Yorke. But refreshingly, neither did he. That's what I mean, he admits regrets.
Two more; his book is great.
Roy on playing charity games:
Roy on meeting Nial Quinn for the Sunderland job
Roy on playing charity games:
Roy on meeting Nial Quinn for the Sunderland job
It was a shitty thing he did in fairness and no need for it.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/oct/22/roy-keane-manchester-united-mafia Anyone left at United that he hasn't bashed?
But refreshingly, he doesn't like what he's saying. Or something like that.
Slates Paddy Crerand & co for being out of touch then slates Rooney & co for not doing things as they were done 'in his day'.
Must admit I agree with him on the old boys mafia thing. There's half a dozen people still involved with the club that can't give an honest, straight forward opinion probably for fear of getting canned.
Paddy Crerand is biased? Wow!
Keano really should be a hard hitting investigative journalist.
Keano really should be a hard hitting investigative journalist.
They would be the club 'ambassadors' or whatever they are called? They are the last half dozen blokes you should expect objectivity from, in fairness.
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Roy seems to have real issues. He advocates and vilifies the same thing depending on his mood or perspective. When someone shows a lack of loyalty he bemoans it, and when someone shows loyalty he bemoans it. Not even Paddy Crerand takes Paddy Crerand's opinions on United seriously. It's his shtick.
@Lynk, Keane's getting a thrashing here. Come and tell us how it's right. I'm enjoying your posts in this thread, better than your posts about Danny Welbeck
He always has to say that bid additional which is quite unnecessary, doesn't he? Everybody knows Paddy's commentary or opinions are biased. Hardly a big deal. The addition of word 'mafia' is the unnecessary bit. Yes United have employed lot of former players in some roles and they try to present positive picture. What's wrong with that? Does he expect everyone to idiotically go on complaining about everything like he does?
It's downright idiotic. If Man Utd mafia is out, I wonder what he calls the Liverpool gang. @SteveJ correctly pointed out what I felt while reading. feck you Paddy, it's 19 fecking 76, but feck you Wayne, back in my day it was not on. Shut up Keano, please.
Candor can be admired, but Keane has devolved into a sick, bitter fukk.
But he was one helluva footballer, wasn't he?
But he was one helluva footballer, wasn't he?
and he has to add that negative bit about everyone..as if pure praise of someone will hamper the supposed image he has created for himself.
He has problem with class of 92, Scholes's image as perceived in media, everything. Same Scholes about whom he had said few years back: "..an amazingly gifted player who remained unaffected human being." Now he is suddenly finding something 'affected' about Scholes.
The bit about Tottenham team talk was funny though 
Hehe. YeahThe bit about Tottenham team talk was funny though
Its quite sad how Keano, one of my fav players has slipped into this bitter caustic world of his. A psychiatrist will have a field day with him.
I think ten years down the road, Fergie will have to, once again, bail him out of his problems. No one else will be magnanimous to do it after he has burnt his bridges with the United Mafia.
I think ten years down the road, Fergie will have to, once again, bail him out of his problems. No one else will be magnanimous to do it after he has burnt his bridges with the United Mafia.
Does he ever think of any reasons behind the things / changes happening which he doesn't like?
Players from both Manchester clubs meeting sometimes after matches? OMG! Never happened during his time? All credit to you for that Roy!
Maybe if back then us and City had some Spaniards/Argentinians, etc. then they would have met up, too. Foreign players meeting their countrymen who live in the same city, I for one am shocked!
Players from both Manchester clubs meeting sometimes after matches? OMG! Never happened during his time? All credit to you for that Roy!
Maybe if back then us and City had some Spaniards/Argentinians, etc. then they would have met up, too. Foreign players meeting their countrymen who live in the same city, I for one am shocked!
After a failed managerial career he has to cash out on something.
Not many bridges left to burn though, next book it'll be slagging off the receptionist, canteen chef and his paper boy.
Not many bridges left to burn though, next book it'll be slagging off the receptionist, canteen chef and his paper boy.
The whole Coppell confrontation had me crying with laughter, especially Van Der Gow's reaction. Priorities. I really enjoyed the book, and like others have said its both sad how he can alienate people but admirable that he's able to be honest about his mistakes and shortcomings.
I don't even remember that, all this bitterness from him wiped that out from my memory.
It was all Butt anyway. The true midfield hero.
Who's left to criticise at United for Roy?
Busby boys will probably the next target.
Busby boys will probably the next target.
He's making himself look a bigger prick every time he opens his mouth now.
I finished his book the other day, and it's not as sensationalist and shocking as you'd think.
Keane has incredible high standards, and he really beats himself up when he fails to live up to his own expectations. His mistake is thinking everyone else should abide by his standards/morals. Call them whatever you like. He has a hard time differentiating between when to pursue something and when to let it go. And a hard time reading between the lines.
But as I said before, he really does have a kind of...self resentment for when he lets himself/others down.
Good book, but the first was better (in terms of 'shocking' material).
Keane has incredible high standards, and he really beats himself up when he fails to live up to his own expectations. His mistake is thinking everyone else should abide by his standards/morals. Call them whatever you like. He has a hard time differentiating between when to pursue something and when to let it go. And a hard time reading between the lines.
But as I said before, he really does have a kind of...self resentment for when he lets himself/others down.
Good book, but the first was better (in terms of 'shocking' material).
I love Keane but I still think the stuff with Nani and the red card was him being a bitter cnut and taking a chance to revel in Fergie's misfortune.
I don't think Ferguson is the only reason he won't manage United
I agree about his comments on the United "mafia". Crerand is long passed his sell by date. What he is still doing on MUTV is beyond me. The man is clueless.
I'm going through the book now and really enjoying it. I agree with you that he has really high standard and he struggles to accept people who don't meet those standards. There is part of him too that is pure determination and blinkered. I think in part that made him a great midfielder but when dealing with people it ruins relationships and alienates people. He can go from being a great man to saying things like "I hated dealing with the families of fellow pros in my role as captain." I find the way he speaks about Bruce lead me to believe that Bruce is a much better man manager on all levels. He is a little bipolar if you ask me.
I agree. He judges himself by his own standards, fails, and then that failure manifests itself into something ugly, like the Queiroz rant on the training pitch, or the rant he had at SAF and Gill, or the way he handled the Yorke thing.
He will always be remembered for a truly great player. I just hope he doesn't tarnish himself too much with his post-playing publicity/comments/books.
Not if he keeps going on the way he is.
Of course he will.
By anyone capable of judging how good a footballer is by how well he plays football anyway.
When talking about his football days, yes he will be remembered as a fantastic player. However when talking about Keane nowadays all people talk about is his temperament, bitterness and his feud with Fergie rather than his footballing ability. Some United fans have already turned their backs on him and it’s only a matter of time before he does or says something that turns the majority of fans against him.
Liam Brady and John Giles were critical of how Ireland played against Germany but it was Eamon Dunphy who really was the lead voice dampening down the mood of the nation. Keane had a very gentle dig back when asked ablout it.
"Do you know what? It's just an opinion. It's what football is about. These guys are entitled to their opinion. They've played at a decent level. Well, two of them have played at a decent level."
"Do you know what? It's just an opinion. It's what football is about. These guys are entitled to their opinion. They've played at a decent level. Well, two of them have played at a decent level."
Pretty much.
For a man that is saying he isn't trying to sell a book, he is doing a very good job of... selling his book! Fair play, I'm reading it.
Completely wrong about Nani, saying he should have gone is one thing (foot was high) but saying he meant it - sorry Roy, not every player wants to try and injure someone
Completely wrong about Nani, saying he should have gone is one thing (foot was high) but saying he meant it - sorry Roy, not every player wants to try and injure someone