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He sounds like the rest of the deluded teenage Ronaldo fanboys you see on social media. He can keep crying about his pal getting sent to the reserves all he wants, big balls Eric does what he wants.
 

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What an absolute idiot. After the first 2 games, we've been the best performing team in the league since then. Most in-form team in the last 9 league games. W6, D2 L1
Wouldn't that be Arsenal? But I get your point.
 

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Definitely think a lot of you are taking too much of this in, it was a rant, a Keano rant! There’s been plenty of them! Once your in rant mode, you say all sorts of nonsense. It’s hilarious!

He did say Ronaldo was in the wrong and needed to be punished, he also agreed that he needed to go. With defending him? I think it’s more to do with the threat Ronaldo can be in attack. Of course you will want him in your team, even if he is on the bench.

We all knew Ronaldo would bring drama with him, but at the same time, he wants to play, he doesn’t want to come off the bench with 2 minutes to go in a game, he lost the plot, acted like a man baby. So did plenty of other players, who also got punished for it. Big whooop!

Having a go at Keano for also losing the plot and going on a mindless rant….it’s Roy Keane! It’s what he has done plenty of times! Always a legend however!

I’m not really defending Keane for the rant (he easily goes off on one) or Ronaldo by the way, just think this whole “he’s dead to me now” bollix is a bit over the top Nevermind trying to bring up “but he ended a players career” when in fact he didn’t!

There we go! My very own Keano rant!

Edit: Hasselbaink wondering what the feck he’s doing there in the middle of all that with the occasional wee input. Brilliant! Also hear them faking a beating with smacking sounds at the end?
 
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It’s weird to me how much Keane loves Ronaldo. Did they even play together?

It comes across as a guy defending his mate.
 

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It always fascinates me that a lot of people look towards former players who for the majority of their career played in a different tactical era, usually specialised in 1 position, were raised to follow the tactics/orders of the managers, who if they were extremely naturally talented probably didnt have a lot of tactical thinking to do on the pitch and then wonder why the midfielder Roy Keane has no clue about what type of striker this team needs tactically or why scholes with his vast experience can't offer any more insight into being a good midfielder other than check over your shoulder. Its because the majority of players do not have to think, they have to take orders and follow orders. Its also why in general they make the worst pundits.

An exception to this I have to say is Gary Neville who despite loving the sound of his voice and loving a moan does bring interesting views to the table (in relation to the average pundit) which I assume is due to him being more well rounded due to having been a player, coach, manager and owner.
 

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He’s usually good but he’s embarrassingly bad in his Ronaldo comments. So many contradictions.
 

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Keane had no problem last season criticising pogba and de gea. But when it comes to Ronaldo it’s not aloud because of the player he is and all what he’s done in his career. These former players of ours are doing my head in. They choose who they want to criticise and choose who they want to defend. It’s just biased really.
 

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Keane has made himself look like a twat lately, he’s heading into Souness territory
 

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Honestly find it baffling how anyone lauds this circus clown pundit as a "hardman"

He's a middle aged stroppy fool giving "death stares" because he was great 22 years ago. Sounds like the coolest guy in school who grew up to only get fired from a call center.

If anyone else acts the way Roy does then Roy would have a tantrum. You think Roy wouldn't quip about someone else walking out on Ireland and Man United? Course he would. But nobody else would say that to him. People like Roy are often coddled by people around them because people try and keep everything civil to make their own lives easier. So Roy gets to be "Keano" talking shite every week with no insight with the occasional hardman act and everyone goes along with it just to keep him calm.

Which again, is fine but only issue is his words actually mean something to some viewers so as soon as he calls Ten Hag inept or woeful or some other word like "bluffers" then "Keano's" fans will parrot it repeatedly. Even though Roy has as much insight into modern football as a 4/10 YouTube fan channel
 

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Keane legend Ronny legend, both had same attitude when there playing days were numbered most will know about Keanes towards the end at UTD, and that's why he's in Ronnys corner.

Bringing up Scholes, Rio, Cantona. Come on Roy ffs its long long time ago and all were dealt with. ETH is the new Manager Keane I don't know how many times he's criticised the players for (throwing them under the bus)..
ETH , shows some balls against a current UTD player when UTD are starting to show some consistency, Roy now wants to have a go at him? Wtf is his argument he can't have it both ways. And us as fans know F all according to Keane. I loved the guy as a player same as Ronny , in this instance imo both are wrong.
 

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Honestly find it baffling how anyone lauds this circus clown pundit as a "hardman"

He's a middle aged stroppy fool giving "death stares" because he was great 22 years ago. Sounds like the coolest guy in school who grew up to only get fired from a call center.

If anyone else acts the way Roy does then Roy would have a tantrum. You think Roy wouldn't quip about someone else walking out on Ireland and Man United? Course he would. But nobody else would say that to him. People like Roy are often coddled by people around them because people try and keep everything civil to make their own lives easier. So Roy gets to be "Keano" talking shite every week with no insight with the occasional hardman act and everyone goes along with it just to keep him calm.

Which again, is fine but only issue is his words actually mean something to some viewers so as soon as he calls Ten Hag inept or woeful or some other word like "bluffers" then "Keano's" fans will parrot it repeatedly. Even though Roy has as much insight into modern football as a 4/10 YouTube fan channel
he walked the walk on the pitch

regarding his words meaning something I think most sane people realise sky sports is just a circus really & it’s not that deep
 

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The man openly labelled the entire United fanbase as "clueless".

That part was hilarious tbh. Great TV. The guy is box office. :lol:

Wasn't CR7 a bit of a hairstyle merchant and a vain guy back in the day? You'd think Roy wouldn't like his personality but I guess as long as you're driven and hardworking Keane doesn't care about what you do outside Football.
 

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If I may do a bit of stupid, half-arsed armchair psychology for a minute... I think Roy has some slight Borderline Personality Disorder-type tendencies.

He seems to have in his head that saying anything negative about somebody he likes or positive about someone he doesn't like is the same as admitting that he was wrong about the person, because everything is so black and white to him - and being wrong is unacceptable, because if he's wrong, that must mean he's stupid because only stupid people can be wrong because everything is black and white.

He was the same on some 'all time XI' type thing I watched where he filled the whole thing with his mates (even when pretty clearly undeserved) and omitted anybody he'd ever fallen out with. As soon as he was challenged on any of the picks, he immediately started doing the type of mental gymnastics and rambling we see in that clip about Ronaldo.

Would also explain why he holds grudges for literal decades, has a temper like a volcano, and had multiple high profile massive fallings out with people.
He's a complicated guy for sure.

What I would say to some is don't take it so seriously. Its just a blokes opinion on a footballer.
 

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It's funny because if Roy was still part of the team he would be the first one to slap Ronaldo into reserves for leaving the stadium.
 

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It’s weird to me how much Keane loves Ronaldo. Did they even play together?

It comes across as a guy defending his mate.
They played together for a couple of years.

As someone else posted last night. I don't think Keanes ever gotten over how it ended for him at United and he appears to be subconsciously defending himself as much as he is Ronaldo.
 

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It’s weird to me how much Keane loves Ronaldo. Did they even play together?

It comes across as a guy defending his mate.
Yeah they played two and a bit seasons together
 

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They played together for a couple of years.

As someone else posted last night. I don't think Keanes ever gotten over how it ended for him at United and he appears to be subconsciously defending himself as much as he is Ronaldo.
Spot on
 

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He's a complicated guy for sure.

What I would say to some is don't take it so seriously. Its just a blokes opinion on a footballer.
Yea, same reason Paul Merson and to some degree Graeme Souness get to be in the studio after all these years, it gives them clicks and revenue. People link what they say on social media and forums like this and does the promotion for them.

It's funny because if Roy was still part of the team he would be the first one to slap Ronaldo into reserves for leaving the stadium.
spot on
 

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I think Ronaldo's ability to get "back in" is severely hampered by not being of the desired level right now unlike those players.
For sure, and Keane said that himself. The difference is those players were capable of getting back in. What we’re seeing in Ronaldo now is kind of similar to what happened to Keane when he was on his way out of united, hence the passionate defence of the situation, not the player or his actions.
 

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They played together for a couple of years.

As someone else posted last night. I don't think Keanes ever gotten over how it ended for him at United and he appears to be subconsciously defending himself as much as he is Ronaldo.
Yep, he was projecting in a big way yesterday. He clearly still has PTSD from what happened to him.
 

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Keano is still my hero, but he needs to stop defending Ronaldo. Everyone can see he has lost his first touch and all players get old. Remember the good old days when he was brilliant and admit he is not the same anymore.
 

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A goal every two game. Refusing to come on as sub “is a human mistake”. Roy Keane is so clueless its not even funny anymore.

 

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Honestly find it baffling how anyone lauds this circus clown pundit as a "hardman"

He's a middle aged stroppy fool giving "death stares" because he was great 22 years ago. Sounds like the coolest guy in school who grew up to only get fired from a call center.

If anyone else acts the way Roy does then Roy would have a tantrum. You think Roy wouldn't quip about someone else walking out on Ireland and Man United? Course he would. But nobody else would say that to him. People like Roy are often coddled by people around them because people try and keep everything civil to make their own lives easier. So Roy gets to be "Keano" talking shite every week with no insight with the occasional hardman act and everyone goes along with it just to keep him calm.

Which again, is fine but only issue is his words actually mean something to some viewers so as soon as he calls Ten Hag inept or woeful or some other word like "bluffers" then "Keano's" fans will parrot it repeatedly. Even though Roy has as much insight into modern football as a 4/10 YouTube fan channel

I always know Keane was right on the money when someone starts off by calling him a so called hardman
 

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Well at his age, of course he's not the future. Bit of a daft comment really.

Why exactly would you never play him again?
I assume you're disgusted that RVN, Scholes, Cantona, Ferdinand, Rooney or others played for United too?
Your reply is daft. Keane wants Ronaldo to start every game he is fit. We have seen that Ronaldo just isnt worth that right now and the team dynamics change when he plays. Nevilles point was that he shouldnt have that expectation.

Not sure what the last paragraph in your post is in relation to. .
 

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6 more winnable games over 3 weeks is all we should have to endure of this saga now. If we do win these games the drama will become smaller. World Cup will provide a welcome distraction away from club football.
 

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Wow, this is the first time I've heard an ex Utd player say "Utd are better without Ronaldo". Fair play to Neville! Roy Keane struggled to accept that point.


Keane is talking absolute shite there. He's lost all objectivity when it comes to Ronaldo. That whole section is a bit embarrassing for him.
 

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Keane adores Ronaldos mentality. They had similar mentalities, as Neville suggested. Keane will always defend that mentality whether it be Ronaldo or any other player. Yes, he has undoubtedly a soft spot specifically for Ronaldo, but who wouldn't! 1 of the all time greats.

I disagree with my hero ( am Irish and a Celtic fan - was at Keanes debut for Celtic which we lost 2-1 away to the mighty Clyde in the Cup, was also at his Old firm debut at Ibrox when he ran the show and we won 1 nil, Wayne Rooney was sitting about 10 rows behind me, Keane obviously got him the tckt ) on this matter however, he did say Ronaldo should get punished. Keane believes the chances that fell to Rashford and the kid yee signed from Ajax, Ronaldo would have buried. He probably would have scored at least 1 however, as other have pointed out, would Ronaldo have shown the pace to be in those positions. To be fair, I think he might have done.

Keane does make a very valid point
In that yee struggled last year but Ronaldo was still your best player but time is catching up with him and having no pre season has done Ronaldo no favours whatsoever.

Probably best if Ronaldos contract was terminated today for all parties.

As an aside, it's clear United are improving under ETH. Really hope yee make Top 4.

Hopefully, we get yee in CL next season. Yee will beat us but it will be some atmosphere in both games. Was at CL at OT when yee beat us 3 nil around 2008. Was also at OT for Keanos testimonial against Celtic. Brilliant occasion.
 

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Why did noone point out that the reason Ronaldo found himself out of the team from the start is because he decided to feck off for pre season

His behaviour has been poor from the start.
 

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Keane has lost the plot.

And he knows his take is wrong but will do it anyways out of loyalty.
 

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Why did noone point out that the reason Ronaldo found himself out of the team from the start is because he decided to feck off for pre season

His behaviour has been poor from the start.
Because there is the belief that that was related to the death of his child. A trauma that he probably came back from too quickly so then wanted to grieve with his family over the summer.
 

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I always know Keane was right on the money when someone starts off by calling him a so called hardman

I always keep an open mind that middle aged man looking angry aren't always right. He's a so called hard man now, not in his younger days to be clear.

But if you decide he must always be right because someone isn't fawning over him in a "my dad could beat up your dad" sorta way then I commend your deduction skills