I don't agree with this. The Annexations change nothing. They're not recognised by the rest of the world and Putin knows that. If we was going to escalate why not do so before? The tide has been turning for months. He has warned before that the flow of weapons must stop, and that strikes could be made on supply lines into Ukraine, yet he did nothing.I think there’s a pretty good chance we are going to see a major escalation in the coming weeks. Once Putin officially annexes the Ukrainian territories, he will use it as a pretext to claim Ukraine is attacking Russian land, which will be used as justification to use more powerful weapons (whether it’s nukes or other WMDs we don’t know ). Once that happens, NATO will be forced to get involved, at which point we will reach a dangerous precipice.
Another moan at the UN incoming.Zelensky invoking the legendary leader of the 19th century Caucasus resistance, Shamil, in this address to the people of Dagestan (and elsewhere). He continues to impress with this kind of thing:
Address by the President of Ukraine to the indigenous peoples of Russia: Fight to avoid death, defend your freedom in the streets and squares
https://www.president.gov.ua/en/new...-ukrayini-do-korinnih-narodiv-rosiyi-bo-78137
Ukraine has already hit the 'annexed' territory of Crimea several times in the last few months. They aren't afraid to keep going, regardless of the shite the Kremlin is dishing out. Might even hit the Crimean bridge.I think there’s a pretty good chance we are going to see a major escalation in the coming weeks. Once Putin officially annexes the Ukrainian territories, he will use it as a pretext to claim Ukraine is attacking Russian land, which will be used as justification to use more powerful weapons (whether it’s nukes or other WMDs we don’t know ). Once that happens, NATO will be forced to get involved, at which point we will reach a dangerous precipice.
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Apathy? They're literally fleeing their homeland.I agree, although it affects them directly as opposed to many here. I’m just deeply frustrated by their apathy to all this given the circumstances. I really believed that mobilization will finally wake them up but I was wrong here.
Hopefully they change their mind and surrender. Hoping for so many people to die isn't how we should think I believe.Russia troops are retreating from Lyman and will try a breakthrough from the encirclement, hopefully none of them makes it alive.Tweet
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They’ve clearly made a decision not to surrender, I’m not sure what else can we hope for in such a situation.Hopefully they change their mind and surrender. Hoping for so many people to die isn't how we should think I believe.
For a future change in Russia we need a lot of people who understand how wrong their current way is and it seems lik most Russian PoW have at least some of this understanding.
His only way is to double down.I'm somewhat surprised Putin is increasing, not decreasing, his commitment to the invasion. Annexed territory becomes Russian territory and "Russian territory" must be defended, no?
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I believe that's what has been said, with the threat of nuclear. Just when you think things can't get worseI'm somewhat surprised Putin is increasing, not decreasing, his commitment to the invasion. Annexed territory becomes Russian territory and "Russian territory" must be defended, no?
Keep doing what they are doing. If Russia uses nuclear weapons, then NATO will respond in kind. It would be an irrational action from Russia, albeit one that feels ever more likely. Putin's had all the off-ramps he would ever need and has ignored all of them. Unfortunately, it will be a uncomfortable ride for the next few weeks, months and years. There's not much we can do about that, except continue to oppose his aggression in Ukraine.He is desperate to end this war while still gaining something from it. What the right thing to do from here for Ukraine, i don't know.
From best to worst for Ukraine:He is desperate to end this war while still gaining something from it. What the right thing to do from here for Ukraine, i don't know.
What do you think NATO would do in the case of a nuclear attack on Ukraine? I doubt they will repay it in similar fashion, more sanctions maybe, but that won't help the dead Ukrainians.Keep doing what they are doing. If Russia uses nuclear weapons, then NATO will respond in kind. It would be an irrational action from Russia, albeit one that feels ever more likely. Putin's had all the off-ramps he would ever need and has ignored all of them. Unfortunately, it will be a uncomfortable ride for the next few weeks, months and years. There's not much we can do about that, except continue to oppose his aggression in Ukraine.
NATO won’t get involved, I think the US will act on their own accord to not destabilize Europe. Even Putin understands he wouldn’t want to face US in standalone fight.What do you think NATO would do in the case of a nuclear attack on Ukraine? I doubt they will repay it in similar fashion, more sanctions maybe, but that won't help the dead Ukrainians.
I read an article a few days ago where they mentioned 4 options:What do you think NATO would do in the case of a nuclear attack on Ukraine? I doubt they will repay it in similar fashion, more sanctions maybe, but that won't help the dead Ukrainians.
Why are all of those unlikely? So far it’s going this way.1) Winning the war, getting back their territories and joining NATO (very unlikely).
2) Agreeing with Russia that Russia keeps Crimea while Ukraine joins NATO (very unlikely).
3) Agreeing with Russia that Russia keeps Crimea while Ukraine stays neutral (unlikely).
4) Winning the war and getting everything except Crimea (unlikely).
You can bet some of our western "leaders" will only hear this part out of the entire speech and force Ukraine to the negotiating table just like they did in 2014 Minsk agreement. After bending over for decades I am convinced it will happen again.
I think 1-5 are by far the most likely outcomes. Russia is getting weaker for every day and Ukraine is getting stronger.From best to worst for Ukraine:
1) Winning the war, getting back their territories and joining NATO (very unlikely).
2) Agreeing with Russia that Russia keeps Crimea while Ukraine joins NATO (very unlikely).
3) Agreeing with Russia that Russia keeps Crimea while Ukraine stays neutral (unlikely).
4) Winning the war and getting everything except Crimea (unlikely).
5) The war continuing for some time with a kind of stalemate, with Russia fortifying their positions (possible).
6) Sane as (5) but Ukraine having enough of it and giving those territories (unlikely).
7) Losing the war and so having to give up those territories with chances being high for another invasion (Kharkiv/Odessa) in a couple of years (unlikely).
8) Suing for peace after Russia uses tactical nukes (possible).
9) Getting destroyed by Russian nukes (heavy unlikely).
10) Total destruction of the civilization by a tactical nuke exchange that goes strategic (extremely unlikely).
I think that either a stalemate or Russia using tactical nukes are the main possibilities right now. Though of course, someone killing Putin might change the scenario. But I do not see Putin accepting a defeat while still has the nuke card.
Because he still has the nuclear card and I do not see him accepting defeat while can still use nukes.Why are all of those unlikely? So far it’s going this way.
Probably a reference to the US & UK.What's with this "anglo-saxons" stuff? Is it a reference to something? I don't remember this being a thing.