Come on man. It's not our job to support him. He is a millionaire who should have been a better human being.
Spot on. As I said the footballer brought me so much joy and did so much for this club but doesn’t mean I or any others have to back him in situations were he has done something wrong. He will always be a legend at this club and was my favourite player for years but it’s obvious he is a knob.
What is wrong with you
So if you were a Sunderland fan a few years ago would you back Adam Johnson ? Come off it you don’t and shouldn’t back someone just because he is a legend at this club
Dipper?
No sympathy for him? Destroyed his career? Did the trial happen already or you couldn't even wait for that to finish before getting this off your chest?
What should we do? Hold a free Giggsy banner outside the courtroom? Hire a plane to fly over the courthouse writing THESE WOMEN SET THEIR SHIT ON FIRE EVERY NIGHT across the sky in red smoke?
Sympathy for what exactly?
No idea, it was part of a passionate rant.
He’s right though. Yes on this case he is innocent til proven guilty but the thing with his brother and a lot of people who met him say he’s not the nicest person. He doesn’t deserve sympathy, if this turns out to be false I’ll certainly be in his corner but right now even without knowing if he is guilty or not he doesn’t deserve sympathy
He is entitled to his opinion, I just found it rather strong and seemed to assume guilt based on personal opinions. Thats a very slippery slope. And the thing with his brother is something he will have to live with for the rest of his life, personally I don't like to pass judgment on people's family stuff, because we probably only know a very small percentage of it. IIRC we literally only heard one side of the story. Every family's got their histories and skeletons in the closet.
I agree with the first sentence. These days it seems it’s guilty until proven innocent with most people. The only reason I quoted was the sympathy as he deserves none. I don’t pass judgment on family stuff too but it’s bad to do to your brother and there is no real excuses.
It's my job to back a multi-millionare cnut of a human being? Why? Because he played for the club I support?
I don't know about yours but I am sure my family (and most families) doesn't have a history of brothers banging their brothers wives. I am a little appalled how casually you give him a free pass by hiding behind "lets not pass judgement and skeletons" argument. He knowingly did his brothers wife for 8 years. There is no if and or but about it. There is no we only know a small piece of it.
It's morally wrong, there's no ways around it. But what if they hated each other? What if the brother was an even bigger cnut behind the scenes. It's just not as simple as a black and white issue for me, but it's definitely a stain on his career.
That is deep mate. We all have little giggs inside us.
Would love to see what you would consider ‘being a bigger cnut behind the scenes’ that would mean long term adultery would be acceptable.
How is anyone reading this and taking it seriously?
You're actually making it worse with your explanation.
It's called cancel culture. Ryan Giggs ceased to exist as of 2 days ago.Since you put aside his personal life, how can you defend nominating players without a single PL title to Hall of Fame over players who've won it 13 times?
Who said anything about revenge? I said maybe they hated each other. If you come from a happy loving family and grew up in harmony, good for you. Maybe he didn't.
So he had the affair for 8 years because they didn't get on?
No, that's pretty much it. That it happened for 8 years suggests the brother and the wife were in a loveless marriage.
If all Giggs had was this charge many would be waiting until the trial was over. But with Giggs we have a lot of facts from his past.
That behavior has nothing to do with the very serious crime of bodily assault.
I agree with that.
You should quit now. You make less and less sense longer this goes on. Even if the brothers couldn't stand each other, it doesn't make it okay to go on cheating with your brothers spouse, to say nothing of cheating on your own. Wonder what ferguson thinks of his blue white boy.
No and there’s an awful lot in this thread who have taken it as he’s 100% guilty and posted it in here. I think the mods need to close the thread and let the justice system deal with it, this thread isn’t going anywhere aside from allowing slandering of him. Seen many United players accused of rape, assault etc and nothing has come of it. In this case no one knows the full facts aside from those involved.
I think it's probably better for everyone if you just put me on ignore if my opinions offend you. I never actually defended or justified what he did, I merely explained why I don't hate him, and why he isn't 'dead to me' like he is for some here.
I don't care about you or your opinion enough to put you on ignore. People take online forums too seriously, I don't.
Too right,
The coercive control charges are more pertinent to what we know about him, in my view.
He's also assaulted previous girlfriends.
Allegedly?
