I'll be interested in whether he still has the 7 shirt. If he has to come back, which no-one wants, I imagine he'll be used as a striker in a few cup games. He hasn't got the legs for anything else.
Sanchez's return | is not happening - he signs for Inter
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I never thought any transfer would make Torres look like a bargain let alone a freebie.
On a more serious note he shouldn't really get any minutes for you apart from maybe scratch minutes Vs lower league sides, he's not even too flight standard anymore.
On a more serious note he shouldn't really get any minutes for you apart from maybe scratch minutes Vs lower league sides, he's not even too flight standard anymore.
If we can't loan him out to anyone in europe/asia/North or South America, then he'll probably be like how Darmian was for a few years. Comes in rarely, but otherwise trains and never plays and you forget he exists bar the random cup game he gets used.
I suppose Sissoko at Spurs was quite the turn around. From a bit of a disaster to one of their key players for a while.
Even if he played the entire season (even though he’s incapable Of doing so as he’s injury prone), he wouldn't even get into double figures.
was a fantastic player, but for the past 3 years he’s been crap for Arsenal, Utd and Inter. No chance of him ever playing well for a top team again.
put a fork in him, he’s done.
He isn't old though. Still only 31. Some players have found a new lease of footballing life well after it.
True, but very few come back from being as bad as he's been for the past few years.
I've slated him above but it's just struck me that he's coming into the last year of his contract.
He's probably become quite accustomed to his way of life and the closer next June gets, the more the reality of his £400k a week valuation being closer to £4k a week will sink in. We might see a bounce in terms of effort and application if nothing else.
He's probably become quite accustomed to his way of life and the closer next June gets, the more the reality of his £400k a week valuation being closer to £4k a week will sink in. We might see a bounce in terms of effort and application if nothing else.
His contract has 2 years remaining - ends in 2022
I don't fault his effort, he just is physically shot. He has lost his acceleration, he can't beat players anymore. Even in his latter days at Arsenal, Wenger was playing him as a CF as he started to rely more on the technical side of his game as he was losing the physical and he was doing quite well there.
Nothing we can do about it if he's just done unfortunately - even if he does train hard, which allegedly he really does, and it can be seen in his professionalism and willingness to play for Chile at all costs. He just won't get to the level of 5 years ago.
Balls to that so. Nothing to see here.
I wonder. I feel like a guy who is giving everything he has but is simply physically shot just calls it a day and retires. It would be too soul destroying to be giving your all and coming up short the whole time.
Many thought this about Rooney at one point. He was on a fat salary for us but also wasn't physically at the level he used to be at. Likewise for Torres, Kaka and Pato who had sharp declines.
There will be no return. Ole will not want his personality and attitude around the squad.
Loan, sell or go to the u23s.
Loan, sell or go to the u23s.
He's finished here. Deport him to China the moment he sets foot in England.
What's wrong with his personality and attitude?
By all accounts, he's a person that loves the game. Obsessed with playing for his national team instead of taking any kind of break and a person that takes responsibility.
Loner in the dressing room at Arsenal who was very critical of team-mates, apparently.
Is his contract up in 2021? I though it was 2022, delighted if I'm wrong
I'm not sure the manager has the power to reject working with a player. Maybe fergie, but otherwise, it's Woodward's decision.
He's past it and doesn't fit into what Ole is trying to do so there's pretty much zero chance that Ole will actually play him. He's well down the pecking order.
If Ole won't play him there's no point in having him around the squad because he'll most likely sulk and bring down the mentality of the group. There's zero benefit in having a guy doing nothing and getting 350k a week for it and all the other players seeing it every day.
So as happened this season, Ole won't want him around. If that means paying a large chunk of his wages to go on loan again so be it. There is zero upside and a lot of potential downside in having him with the squad.
I can point out to Torres entire time at Chelsea as an example of managers not wanting him around and the player still playing
This isn't Chelsea.
Only the MLS or China can save us now
didn't see that one coming.Contract expires in 2022.
another 2 years of this or at least a year and a half before he’ll have to start taking any initiative.
another 2 years of this or at least a year and a half before he’ll have to start taking any initiative.
I don't think it's personality issues or the pressure or anything.
His legs gave in and he aged. Simple as that. Not every player has ability to age like Zlatan, Gigge or Cr7.
His legs gave in and he aged. Simple as that. Not every player has ability to age like Zlatan, Gigge or Cr7.
Not everyon's 31 is the same. Plenty of players went past it as they turned 29/30 and some keep playing at the top till their mid thirties. The human body is not that predictable for everyone.
Think you’re on to something here. Maybe he’s the answer to improving the atmosphere in an empty stadium.
Sanchez won't be leaving us anytime soon. We have him his last big pay cheque and he'll hold to it till the end. We can
a- come out with some mutual agreement were he agrees to leave for a big lump of money
b- send him on loan again and be ready to pay for most of his salary
c- keep him here
As a player his legs are gone which means he can really only play as a striker these days. He can become an adequate cover for Martial/Greenwood. Unfortunately that salary alone will cause problems in the dressing room
a- come out with some mutual agreement were he agrees to leave for a big lump of money
b- send him on loan again and be ready to pay for most of his salary
c- keep him here
As a player his legs are gone which means he can really only play as a striker these days. He can become an adequate cover for Martial/Greenwood. Unfortunately that salary alone will cause problems in the dressing room
I was under the impression he was alright for Inter when he played?
Didn't really get much time to show consistency but when he was playing into some form and having a good Copa America I think he got injured at the end of the tournament.
I thought the last year was an option (which I was presuming we wouldn't take up) ifnits not then yeah 40 million or so in wages and 2 years we will be stuck with him
I think inter only paid half his wages this year and they seem to think that has not ended up as a good deal
Agreed, nearly every pic you see of him is training at home or in a gym. He has just played too much for peak premier league football
Rooney, even at his very worst, was several levels above the best we've seen from Sanchez.
Why can't we just loan him out again? Surely loans will become more popular if clubs have less money to spend. There's plenty of idiots out there who would still see him as a big signing, worth taking a chance on. I can see West Ham or a newly rich Newcastle taking him on, could be a good gamble for a club like Monaco or Lyon where he may excel in a weaker league. Covering a small percentage of his wage is better than nothing.
It pains me that we are about to lose a talented young player in Gomes that has been at the club from the beginning of his career and we are about to see the return of an absolute shit bag at the end of his career who doesn't give a feck about the club.
People praise Jose for the Rooney problem but in all honesty he ended up landing us with a player on equal or higher wages who cared about the club less than Rooney and was also a million times worse than Wayne was at the end. Rooney at the very least would provide the odd moment of genius but Sanchez has been awful. Thanks very much the 'special one'.
For me Sanchez is an ideal symbol for what went wrong at this club after Fergie left. Thankfully Ole is dealing with this bit by bit and the next port of call would be to make Sanchez train on his own away from everyone with his shit attitude and force him out of the club.
People praise Jose for the Rooney problem but in all honesty he ended up landing us with a player on equal or higher wages who cared about the club less than Rooney and was also a million times worse than Wayne was at the end. Rooney at the very least would provide the odd moment of genius but Sanchez has been awful. Thanks very much the 'special one'.
For me Sanchez is an ideal symbol for what went wrong at this club after Fergie left. Thankfully Ole is dealing with this bit by bit and the next port of call would be to make Sanchez train on his own away from everyone with his shit attitude and force him out of the club.
This is the issue.
I think he needs to get his fitness up and train by himself. If he can do that, he can train with the first team. If he can do that, then he can play league cup matches and come on in matches to give others a break.
Otherwise he can stay at home
He had a great Copa America just last year - there's still a top player in there he's not finished, just hasn't seemed arsed. I'm holding out a 10% chance he can get his crap together and play a part in the team.
Just a strange situation. I would not say he has 0 % chance of returning - but if I was the club I would try lower his wage and say - if you get your act together we still think there's a player in you who can help us challenge for trophies. But we really don't know enough other then he's been poor BUT then so have the team.
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