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Gonna lick every seat on the bus and then go visit an old folks home.Do all of your vices at once. YOLO
Gonna lick every seat on the bus and then go visit an old folks home.Do all of your vices at once. YOLO
Kudos! Everyone is gonna die anyway, plus old people by definition are old.Gonna lick every seat on the bus and then go visit an old folks home.
Nice to know we did our bit beating City , it makes it more likely they will do it now .The season will keep going just long enough to confirm them as champions. These sorts of things always end in tragedy.
Who was it that said any civilisation is 3 meals away from anarchy?There will be a run on the shops though. People buying three times what they need, unless the shops themselves prevent this from happening.
Googled it. Lenin. Interesting quote.Who was it that said any civilisation is 3 meals away from anarchy?
It’s frightening now but on a purely academic level it’ll be interesting how things progress.
I do think the UK is faring better.Absolutely. They are doing as bad as the other states, just that they started earlier. Entire Europe/US is gonna be in the same scenario soon.
I wonder how is the situation in South America / Africa, and why so few infected people? Not reported, not much travel going on, or really the warm weather is gonna save us.
Just don't get caught licking their toes.Gonna lick every seat on the bus and then go visit an old folks home.
I am not clicking that but I hovered over it and was not remotely surprised to see it was your state.Just don't get caught licking their toes.
I think it remaining in the pool of colds that circulate is highly likely at this stage but like flu a limited immunity will build up in the world's population which will reduce the impact especially if we get a vaccine.True, but not many people have been working on it. SARS was essentially eradicated so there was no economical benefit on actively doing research on it. For this one, people will be working, so I guess it is likely that an effective vaccine will be discovered within next year.
However, I read that won't necessarily be enough. Apparently, the world has a capacity of 900 million doses per year or so (not sure how reliable), so even if a vaccine is found, probably not everyone (or even the majority) will get vaccinated.
I guess the strategy is hope for a miracle (which could be costly like Spanish flu, or not that costly like swine flu). The worst case is if this becomes endemic and attacks us every year. Maybe it is mother's Nature solution to global warming.
Runny nose is supposedly not one of the usual symptoms, and they say it's a dry cough. Not that that's any reason not to take precautions, of course, just a heads up.So my wife treated a patient about 10 days ago that had been in Beijing a week prior.
She now has come down with symptoms of a fever, runny nose, cough with phlegm, and mild respiratory trouble.
Yay
Slightly contradicts the theory that the arrival of warm weather will help.I do think the UK is faring better.
Case increase over the last 5 days:
Italy - 138%
France - 233%
Spain - 337%
Germany - 242%
Switzerland - 259%
UK - 177%
Italy's numbers are skewed by the fact we have so many cases here, so comparing the increase when we first passed 1,000 cases - 252%
Lenin.Who was it that said any civilisation is 3 meals away from anarchy?
It’s frightening now but on a purely academic level it’ll be interesting how things progress.
Probably needs to be warmer than March in Spain, which I imagine is quite nice weather. Try Florida in the summer warm.Slightly contradicts the theory that the arrival of warm weather will help.
Yes, that is very possible.I think it remaining in the pool of colds that circulate is highly likely at this stage but like flu a limited immunity will build up in the world's population which will reduce the impact especially if we get a vaccine.
You're also in control of how many people you meet and shake hands with.I’d say you have a lot of control looking left and right and choosing to take a step out into the road. (If you dont I apologise for not realising your disability).
Thanks, also thanks @Hugh JassLenin.
And there figures for the proportion of those with the illness who need ICU treatment is about the same as elsewhere which means that as little as 1% of the population infected at any one time will overwhelm our ICU capacity - once at capacity things only get worse until the death/recovery numbers exceed the number getting sick and requiring ICU treatment. This is why containment is so vital.Unfortunately, you are wrong. It is 0.007 or 0.7%, 7 times higher than that of seasonal flu.
Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Figures are variable all round, for various reasons. But a big one is that there are/may be 2 strains. And who/where gets what is unclear.The fatality rate in South Korea is 0.007%, the closest to seasonal flu, despite it having 7K+ cases.
This gives hope that with proper measures, the death rate could be minimized.
The cure rate there is not hight yetthough 2.2%, but of the currently active cases 7259, only 36 are in serious/critical condition.
I care more about the fatality rate.The spread is harder to control imo.
The idea here is that if there was a less dangerous strain and we all got it, it would be like a vaccine in that we'd then be immune from the dangerous one?Figures are variable all round, for various reasons. But a big one is that there are/may be 2 strains. And who/where gets what is unclear.
Very good news too, if the less dangerous strain becomes dominant.
Runny nose is definitely on the symptoms list put out by the WHO and CDC.Runny nose is supposedly not one of the usual symptoms, and they say it's a dry cough. Not that that's any reason not to take precautions, of course, just a heads up.
The most aggressive one is found on 70% of infected, with the less (and original) strain being found in the remaining 30%.Figures are variable all round, for various reasons. But a big one is that there are/may be 2 strains. And who/where gets what is unclear.
Very good news too, if the less dangerous strain becomes dominant.
Ah, right. Ta.The most aggressive one is found on 70% of infected, with the less (and original) strain being found in the remaining 30%.
To be fair, this is weird, the less dangerous one should be the dominant one (in this way the virus can spread better).
Is it best if they self isolate?Runny nose is definitely on the symptoms list put out by the WHO and CDC.
The cough was dry. It just started producing phlegm today while I was at work.
I went a bit deeper and some are also saying it is trotski and others. You know how the internet is with quotes.Thanks, also thanks @Hugh Jass
I don’t read much non fiction and am pretty sure I heard it on a tv show but every day is a school day for me!
It’s only recently I’ve stopped to think how potentially fragile things are. Despite hundreds/thousands of years of no Armageddon it really is 24h away maybe.
A nice soothing thought to go to kip with anyway...........
Many people do. Far too many.People thinking this isn't a potentially very bad situation need to wise up, seriously.
The dancing, or the licking the poles after?I think some adults go around licking poles too. I went to a club and there were women climbing up the poles and dancing all over them. Disgusting.
Bang on the money, best post I've seen in this thread by some stretch. You can't just stop everything. People over here won't put up with that, no one in this country likes to be told what to do.Find all the ‘lost year’ and ‘write off’ comments almost as baffling as the general panic and worry that people are going to die. We all die. Some naturally, some in tragic circumstances. Some way too soon, some probably way too long.
I don’t understand people wanting to halt absolutely everything in life because they hope it’ll get better. It’s such an odd way to live your life, worried about things you have no control over.
Thing is - it didn't. Flu shots right now are still trivalent and quadrivalent and still include H1N1 after all these years because it's still around:Yes, that is very possible.
I wonder why Spanish flu and swine flu (both occurrences of H1N1) 'miraculously' went away. Of course, this is a totally different virus, but would be great if it goes away on its own.
Yes.So in China it started real REAL bad. Am I right I’m saying it has/is slowing there?! It’s not like China cases/deaths are continuing to increase at the same rate Italy now is.
Does that mean containment is working/can work?
That’s what she’s doing. I’m just hoping I don’t get whatever she’s got.Is it best if they self isolate?
I had no idea about it. So, whoever got the flu shot, didn't get H1N1 in 2009?Thing is - it didn't. Flu shots right now are still trivalent and quadrivalent and still include H1N1 after all these years because it's still around:
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/quadrivalent.htm
I was diagnosed with Influenza A myself two weeks ago.
This is completely untrue. Also the “two strains” thing has got a LOT of stick from actual credible sources. That one Chinese document is not the basis for facts that you seem to be certain of, especially considering it was from 100 people. Please, please, only say factual information.The most aggressive one is found on 70% of infected, with the less (and original) strain being found in the remaining 30%.
To be fair, this is weird, the less dangerous one should be the dominant one (in this way the virus can spread better).
I just said what I read on that study (which yes, I should have added that it is just an unconfirmed study at this point). Point taken though, thanks for the advice.This is completely untrue. Also the “two strains” thing has got a LOT of stick from actual credible sources. That one Chinese document is not the basis for facts that you seem to be certain of, especially considering it was from 100 people. Please, please, only say factual information.
The is NO information on the severity of disease between mutations (which is what a virus does by the way ).Only that the “S” type came first, then the “L” type, but the L type actually was seen less after January in that study.