- They have not taken 1.5 billion out of United (unless you engage is lazy accounting like David Conn)
I just asked the guy and said he did not answer him. But he said Moaid is a very respectable source and has many connections in the state, he said it is very unlikely he is talking without really knowing something.
Brilliant, thank you for letting us know. Yea, I'd be very surprised if he was bullshiting, but only time will tell. Keep us posted if you do hear anything else. Appreciated.
It's how football works everywhere apart from a handful of oil-rich clubs.
It's been 1 page of dismissing the story, followed by 23 pages of philosophising about what it means to be football club and a football club supporter.
https://therepublikofmancunia.com/shocking-figures-show-how-much-the-glazers-have-taken-from-united/
It has nothing to do with the world though, it's how @Dante and many people feel about something that his dear to them. And I share his point of view.
see, this is the norm, but it does not mean this is right. Sports and football specifically should not be about changing the clubs into a soulless organisation. That is why the clubs that have owners not intrested in making money out of the clubs will always be successful. Look at Bayern Munich, Barca and Madrid. Every money they generate goes to the club. While we since the leeches took over we paid them and their debt 1 billion pounds.
1. Political contributions in America are often strategic. The Glazers have donated to both Democratic and Republican candidates. This is quite normal in corporate America due to lobbying.
Said no-one in Yemen....ever.
To stay away for ethical grounds one should not look at football at all. Doping, match fixing etc.
So who's behind ICE? Camps separating children from their parents? Are you also saying school killings haven't gone on the rise since Trump has taken power?
I don't know where you picked up that I am in complete support of the takeover, I just happen to think that it will happen and the prospect of the Glazers leaving excites me but even if they didn't leave and brought in someone who knows how to build up our football side without th comical errors from Woodward I'd still be content. I am just tired of seeing this club shoot itself in the foot.
There is a small difference of power between the leader of a republic like the US and the monarch of an absolute monarchy. Without even getting into your actual conversation that part is incredibly wrong.
Well both are happening so
Bit of a difference between the abhorrent exploitation of workers and state sponsored genocide
Agree with all that plus a lot of the kit manufacturers have question marks over them.
I don't want to discuss corporate finance on this thread as it's off-topic and not particularly interesting, but interest payments do not count as taking money out of the club when used to finance debt that brought money into the club (ie. working capital). Also, the Glazers secured part of the debt against their own assets which makes the dividends (only after 10 years of owning the club mind you) understandable.
MBS is bad news though. A Saudi takeover of United would stain the club with his misdeeds to where our brand would forever be linked to the Saudis.
Where do you draw the line in ethics?
A crime is a crime, no matter what. But at least MBS has started to change things in Saudi. Women allowed to drive. Concerts in Saudi. New cinemas to be open there.
I don't know anyone from Yemen to be honest.
All the people that you mentioned are and have been criticized for the entirety of their ownerships and they are all a lot more ethical than Saudi Arabia which is something. And funnily enough Qatar are in immediate danger when it comes Saudi Arabia who will vaporise them at the first chance. And while Qatar are far from perfect they are not comparable to Saudi Arabia.
Yea, agree with this. I bet most of us, disgusted with human rights have visited places like Dubai or Abu Dhabi and caught an Emirates flight.
ICE pre-dates Trump. Trump hasn’t bombed anybody indiscriminately like Obama did/Clinton pledged to - the reason he’s portrayed as a tyrant by the propaganda media is because he doesn’t toe the NeoCon line. The economy is prospering, and minorities are massively better off as a result - another reason for the true racist elites to dislike him.
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I think the smart money will be on the Saudis using a proxy, I doubt being a head of state he would ever come out as the owner of United or link the club to their sovereign fund. It wouldnt be smart but no doubt after the deal is done we might see him coming to watch matches or the team going to SA for visits and dropping by to visit.
Where are you getting your information from?
Your first sentence make little sense and that's where the problem comes from. Trump isn't the US he is only a representative among many, MBS is Saudi Arabia because he is the absolute ruler. You are comparing two completely different postions, if the US wanted to buy United you may have a point, about the US.
Despite the hue and cry we wouldn't lose many fans.
