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He's a journalist who was seen with RA recently over in SA.I have no idea who he is?
He's a journalist who was seen with RA recently over in SA.I have no idea who he is?
And somebody connected with Saudi hierarchy and was with RA recentlyI'm not sure about what you are trying to prove, he seems to be a football fan and potentially a fan of United.
هاها لا لي لاI have no idea who he is?
Yes, so we're left wanting something that might kill the club that we know, all because the Glazers won't grasp what is staring everyone else in the face.I agree with the top paragraph. We don't need the Saudis for their money as such, we just need someone to allow us to be more competitive and have the correct structure in place. Glazer's have proven that they will not do this.
That lad! Love him.هاها لا لي لا
Go home, you're drunk.هاها لا لي لا
In what way do you mean kill the club?Yes, so we're left wanting something that might kill the club that we know, all because the Glazers won't grasp what is staring everyone else in the face.
Apologies, my left hand is rubbish.Go home, you're drunk.
Making the point that to even suggest owning a football club would make even the slightest change is naivety of the highest order,When did I say impresd the Stretford end?
I don't know we'd be recognisable as United under ownership like this, we would be joining the clubs everyone says who's successes are meaningless (City and PSG), becasue they are owned by who they are, yet we'd be owned by an even richer and worse regime.In what way do you mean kill the club?
But yea, Glazer's are clueless.
Ok. So what would be their motive in buying United? Why have the added scrutiny of buying United?Making the point that to even suggest owning a football club would make even the slightest change is naivety of the highest order,
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...iegel-accused-uefa-ffp-sponsors-a8627741.htmlOk. So what would be their motive in buying United? Why have the added scrutiny of buying United?
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I'd like to think we wouldn't need to fiddle the books to spend to comply to the FFP, like the other teo clubs mentioned. I'd like to think we'd be allowed to spend our income and have placed competent people in charge of the club.I don't know we'd be recognisable as United under ownership like this, we would be joining the clubs everyone says who's successes are meaningless (City and PSG), becasue they are owned by who they are, yet we'd be owned by an even richer and worse regime.
We are still the club with the highest turnover, biggest stadium, most support, etc, in the prem, we don't need this, we just need more intelligent football people running the club.
No, I'm just providing anti Saudi posters some context and inviting them to explore any hypocrisy in those views.Have you taken out a patent on this corruption-meter?
Didn't they literally just chop up a journalist last year.If any of these rumours are remotely true then I am putting a positive spin on the takeover. Very likely due to my deep-rooted affection for the club.
It's great and exciting to witness changes that are emerging in Saudi over the last few years. If anything, these changes should be supported. Purchasing United will be a massive catalyst for those changes. It will give the country and it's leaders more media attention either positive or critical and will add pace to the changes.
If we're going to be judging buyers of multi-million/billion businesses on their present and past conduct then there are a lot of examples of massive businesses owned by corrupt individuals and governments. I'm not saying this is ethically or morally correct but it's the way of the world and big business. Personally, I may not be morally or ethically upstanding as some of the posters in this thread, so you have my respect if you're disgusted and appalled by any prospective purchase of the club. You are better people than myself.
So a person in Saudi Arabia tweets they would like owners to leave and that’s evidence of a sale?. Seems a stretch.Oh ok, how do you know he's a nobody in terms of the Saud family? And when did he say the Saud family had bought United?
Then comes this guy...
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Is he a nobody too?
And mass-beheaded 37 people in April.Didn't they literally just chop up a journalist last year.
My point was obvious mate i've reiterated it a few times now. Which was everyone can and does have their own opinion on what is and isn't morally right/wrong. You can't make absolute statements likeMate, you replied to my comments originally, not the other way around. So you obviously had some point to make, which it seems to have gone missing.
But what point have you been trying to make in our subsequent discussion though mate?They can't pick and choose when it becomes immoral.
Its all paper talk but even if true they are immune to scrutiny.Ok. So what would be their motive in buying United? Why have the added scrutiny of buying United?
Who are you implying here?So a person in Saudi Arabia tweets they would like owners to leave and that’s evidence of a sale?. Seems a stretch.
The guy who started this is a nobody in terms of Saud family, he’s just someone in a press office for one person. That’s it, it’s distasteful how desperate so many fans are to be owned by the Saudi’s. People should look into what they regime does and how they treat people and not what some low level employee is posting on LinkedIn.
Cheers.And mass-beheaded 37 people in April.
My statement is, like someone has just replied to one of my above posts, that they feel fans who want this buyout from Saudis to happen is distasteful.My point was obvious mate i've reiterated it a few times now. Which was everyone can and does have their own opinion on what is and isn't morally right/wrong. You can't make absolute statements like
But what point have you been trying to make in our subsequent discussion though mate?
Thats a genuine question i would honestly like to know as i accept i could be completely missing it.
Saudis would be immune to scrutiny? By whom?Its all paper talk but even if true they are immune to scrutiny.
They're going to be buying United to "keep themselves accountable" after allCheers.
Maybe in honour of buying United they'll it cut down to just 20 people at a time. Progress my friends, lovely sweet progress.
That would be nice. And maybe offer an incentive to Rashford. For every goal scored we'll remove one person from the execution list.Cheers.
Maybe in honour of buying United they'll it cut down to just 20 people at a time. Progress my friends, lovely sweet progress.
You believe this to be true? Interesting.They're going to be buying United to "keep themselves accountable" after all
Nah I'm paraphrasing an idiotic post I saw earlier. Let me see if I can find it.You believe this to be true? Interesting.
Oh, it was you.Like you say, using United to better themselves maybe a way of them making themselves more accountable? Maybe or maybe not. But I will like to believe so. Half glass full kind of guy me.
What scrutiny?Saudis would be immune to scrutiny? By whom?
That would be nice. And maybe offer an incentive to Rashford. For every goal scored we'll remove one person from the execution list.
Oh boy.
90 +5 min - Rashford penalty is saved.
Jeff Stelling - ''And we go live to the director box at Old Trafford''
Hahahaaha. Who's the idiot here? I asked the question and you latched on to it? I never said it was for accountability but you certainly did. What a funny person you are.Nah I'm paraphrasing an idiotic post I saw earlier. Let me see if I can find it.
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Oh, it was you.
If you are immune to international scrutiny then armchair football supporters are not going to change your behaviour.Saudis would be immune to scrutiny? By whom?
The fans of Manchester United? There is a billion of them after all.What scrutiny?
I read reports about them donating substantial amounts of money to big media groups in Europe. I assume that a number of politicians are also recipients of similar "donations".
So I wonder why who ll do the "scrutiny"..
Even asking the question is next levels of naivety.Hahahaaha. Who's the idiot here? I asked the question and you latched on to it? I never said it was for accountability but you certainly did. What a funny person you are.
Which I totally get. But my question is again, why would MBS want to buy United if they're is no positive gain for him? Maybe it is true then that MBS doesn't want to purchase United, maybe it is some other Saudi?!If you are immune to international scrutiny then armchair football supporters are not going to change your behaviour.
Hahaha ok.Even asking the question is next levels of naivety.
'Might Jamal Khashoggi have been saved if the Saudis owned United?'