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Saudi Takeover - Claim deal done
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If you look at what I've written, I haven't actually said that. I don't know what the proper response to this is as a United fan and a democrat, that's pretty much why we're here 51 pages deep into a thread based on a single tweet by a person no one here had heard of beforehand. I simply made the case that heaping the Glazers in the same category as the Saudi Royal family was flawed thinking. I also don't see how you can make the case that just because our system is flawed and their system is seriously flawed, anything goes. Surely in both cases the onus is always on the individual. The sovereign individual that beholds well-articulated moral virtue reforms the state. Merely saying you don't have a responsibility as a human being to take a stand against something that is wrong does nothing for anybody. The problem here is determining whether this is wrong or not, being satisfied with "we do bad stuff too" or "the Glazers aren't perfect" doesn't constitute proper justification for supporting this.
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Exactly it’s not real, the person this stemmed from has already started backtracking. I’ve seen more people desperate for Saudi’s to take over than saying they’d give up club.
Where were all these fans who are so desperate for club to be sold when there was a chance to to buy shares and stop Glazers or anyone else taking other. Not giving a toss because team was doing well. Now teams not doing well they’d happily see it sold to pretty much anyone I’d imagine.
Well, do the math then if approximations are not good enough. Deduct the $ we would've had to pay in taxes because we don't have a debt + dividends. Even assuming a 35% tax rate, it'll be 65M instead of 100M we could've spent on players. I assume there's much more I'm missing but overall there's no way the debt + dividends are good for the club.
Dividends are paid after tax.
Compared to emigrating, its a hobby. Unless you're going home and away. Which just about no one is.
I assumed that he included the servicing of the debt, which he did.
It's neither a hobby nor emigrating
Call it what you want pal, the comparison to emigrating was still a shite one.
I love the way you talk about "selective morality" like you don't exhibit it yourself. Anyone who wants a display of Sammsky's selective morality can read Plech's post calling him out on it here in the current events forum.
Sultan had to edit your post because you called for Israel to be wiped out, yet you talk about selective morality.
How would you feel about the state of Saudia Arabia purchasing United?
How would you feel about the state of Israel purchasing United?
You posted about how you have "huge issues" with the people of Israel so I imagine you'd be against the state of Israel buying the club too.
I'm sure you can come up with your own reasons why one is different from the other just like how you came up with a nonsensical, biased, selectively moral reply to Plech's post.
Few more years of not winning any trophies should do it for some i would imagine.
I never made that comparison.
I know.... i'm not sure why you waded in really.
Well in your case it seems pedantry is the motivation. Most people want to have a debate about football.
Took a step back when glazer took over, haven't given the club a penny since. But the glazers are saints compared to the scum united are currently linked with
I've already said this, but if we get bought by religious dictators with horrific human rights abuses i would even watch united on tv. The club would be dead to me.
You went through a decade worth of posts to dig that out
Unless you've been on here before
Anyway you all are mental, 52 pages and counting.
And of course he lied by saying I 'called for Israel to be wiped out'. Along with the absurd Whataboutisms.You went through a decade worth of posts to dig that out
Unless you've been on here before
Anyway you all are mental, 52 pages and counting.
As a pedant i'd thought you'd be able to see the difference but i guess not. Not sure you actually ever said those words either. You just wanted to query the use of the word hobby.Stating football is more than a hobby to me isn't talking football...
Honestly
Hopefully the take over never happens and topic can get thrown in the bin.
Rich coming from you. And I think it's pretty obvious what this post from Sultan meant:
But yes anyways, we all know you'd object to the Israeli state buying the club. Hypocrite.
Rhymes but no better than David Moyes Red & White Army.
So you can't produce evidence to back up your statement. I'll take that as admission that you lied.
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I thought Brexit was bad but this is another level, we've got 47% Ole in and now let's add a poll in here and Brexit looks like a needle in a haystack compared to this sh1t.
I don't like the Saudis. If it's up to me I would not allow it (if it's real).
However, it was not up to me. So, IF it happens, I will still continue supporting United as before. I have been watching United for 20/34 years of my life and I am not planning to change it anytime soon.
However, it was not up to me. So, IF it happens, I will still continue supporting United as before. I have been watching United for 20/34 years of my life and I am not planning to change it anytime soon.
I think he's a returning member of the caf who was previously banned.You went through a decade worth of posts to dig that out
Unless you've been on here before
Anyway you all are mental, 52 pages and counting.
The books showed Euros. The Zidane payment came in installments, 2 years before the Beckham transfer. You have to adjust for inflation considering today's market.
You must have been apologising for something else, not "wishing to see [Israel] wiped out"
So I'll ask again, please state where I 'called for Israel to be wiped out'???
You must have been apologising for something else, not "wishing to see [Israel] wiped out"
You can post as many links, Jpegs and anything else. I just want proof.
Or admit you have lied and deal with those consequences.
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If that isn't by far the most elaborate reference in Redcafe history I've been posting in all the wrong threads.You must have been apologising for something else, not "wishing to see [Israel] wiped out"
It's either 'Fearless' or 'HolyLand Red'.
Man I miss those crazy whacko's. Same tactics they used in those days, they post crap and run.This topic has gone quite off topic. We should return to discussing the takeover rumours rather than getting sidetracked by Sammsky's anti-Semitism.
Wasn't it you that brought it up in the first place?
Yes. I didn't anticipate it taking it over the thread. I just wanted to point out his hypocrisy.
You accused someone of saying something but couldn't provide the evidence to back up your accusation.
He literally quoted the mod who edited his post apologising. The mods have the edit history.
Regardless of how the deal was structured do you accept that the fee was around £46m and not over £60m?
The exchange rate in July 2001 was around 1.66 and in July 2003 it was around 1.44.
https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/b...rical-spot-exchange-rates/gbp/GBP-to-EUR-2001
https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/b...rical-spot-exchange-rates/gbp/GBP-to-EUR-2003
Do you mean the currency inflation or transfer market inflation because they are not the same thing?
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If it's the poster previously known as 'Fearless' or ‘holyland red’ , this is the MO of thier ‘divert and run’ trolling Style. Hopefully the mods will ban him again.
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We're you also a participant in the thread at the time?
Just joined this thread but from the quote that was provided you are clearly clueless about Israel.So I'll ask again, please state where I 'called for Israel to be wiped out'???
You can post as many links, Jpegs and anything else. I just want proof. Or admit you have lied and deal with those consequences.
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