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Wasn’t a red card. He’s at an angle and there are players covering in the are he’s most likely to run into before the foul. Yellow was enough.

The Old firm constantly get a helping hand, particularly when they’re struggling in game. Then they cry foul at each other for getting all the decisions.

His next touch and its him on the keeper who is way off his line.

The angle he was at was directly towards goal. all the other defenders are behind him , if he wasn't through why did the defender pull him down on purpose, obviously to stop the danger.

The next defender is about 3 yards behind him, no chance of covering. Blatant denial of a goalscoring opportunity.

Look at the one Celtic got against them vs Rangers where nir bitton was sent off. Much much further out and still a red. Correct decision same as todays one.
 

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His next touch and its him on the keeper who is way off his line.

The angle he was at was directly towards goal. all the other defenders are behind him , if he wasn't through why did the defender pull him down on purpose, obviously to stop the danger.

The next defender is about 3 yards behind him, no chance of covering. Blatant denial of a goalscoring opportunity.

Look at the one Celtic got against them vs Rangers where nir bitton was sent off. Much much further out and still a red. Correct decision same as todays one.
Enjoy the title! You play some really good football and can see Ange eventually heading to the PL.
 

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obviously Furuhashi is the one that gets the plaudits and rightly so, his goals record is exceptional, but for me, the lad Hatate has been exceptional. His performances for what he cost, 1.4 million, the return his perfomances have been for that investment, unreal...
 

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obviously Furuhashi is the one that gets the plaudits and rightly so, his goals record is exceptional, but for me, the lad Hatate has been exceptional. His performances for what he cost, 1.4 million, the return his perfomances have been for that investment, unreal...
He's fantastic, and I'd take a punt on him. I think he's absolutely mint.
 

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obviously Furuhashi is the one that gets the plaudits and rightly so, his goals record is exceptional, but for me, the lad Hatate has been exceptional. His performances for what he cost, 1.4 million, the return his perfomances have been for that investment, unreal...
Problem is Scottish football is so poor. Don't think any SPL player is good enough for Prem apart from maybe Carter Vickers and Calum Mcgregor. Certainly don't think any player is good enough for Man Utd as they are a top 4 / top 6 team.
 

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Problem is Scottish football is so poor. Don't think any SPL player is good enough for Prem apart from maybe Carter Vickers and Calum Mcgregor. Certainly don't think any player is good enough for Man Utd as they are a top 4 / top 6 team.

Shane Duffy made a career in the Premier league. Many SPL players would be absolutely fine.
 

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Shane Duffy made a career in the Premier league. Many SPL players would be absolutely fine.
Shane Duffy was a decent defender. He had no pace and therefore wasn't suited to Celtic as we played / play a high line. Brighton defended in a low block when SD was there, therefore his lack of pace wasn't exposed.
 

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Shane Duffy was a decent defender. He had no pace and therefore wasn't suited to Celtic as we played / play a high line. Brighton defended in a low block when SD was there, therefore his lack of pace wasn't exposed.
He was shite in a low block for us too when we were backs to the wall. Awful football player. Many better in Scotland who would be fine in england.
 

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It looks like Dujon Sterling is away to Rangers. I’m surprised he’s moving to Scotland but Rangers are a huge club and Champions League football is a possibility at Rangers or Europe if they don’t make it.

I am supportive of young talent going to Scotland to develop. Some fold in that environment like Diallo but I think Sterling has the maturity and experience to be a great success if he stays fit.

Bizarrely his best position is right back and isn’t Tavernier undroppable? Unless Beale has plans to play him at centre back or left back, it’s a strange one. No way he moves to be a back up.
 
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It looks like Dujon Sterling is away to Rangers. I’m surprised he’s moving to Scotland but Rangers are a huge club and Champions League football is a possibility at Rangers or Europe if they don’t make it.

I am supportive of young talent going to Scotland to develop. Some fold in that environment like Diallo but I think Sterling has the maturity and experience to be a great success if he stays fit.

Bizarrely his best position is right back and isn’t Tavernier undroppable? Unless Beale has plans to play him at centre back or left back, it’s a strange one. No way he moves to be a back up.
Is Tavernier not out of contract this summer? I know a lot of Rangers players are, they are looking at a big clearout this summer
 

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Is Tavernier not out of contract this summer? I know a lot of Rangers players are, they are looking at a big clearout this summer
I have no idea. Sterling is a better defender though but absolutely nowhere near the attacking output of Tavernier. Not many are to be fair.
 

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Problem is Scottish football is so poor. Don't think any SPL player is good enough for Prem apart from maybe Carter Vickers and Calum Mcgregor. Certainly don't think any player is good enough for Man Utd as they are a top 4 / top 6 team.
Agreed on those two, think they are mint. Even as a Rangers fan I'd add Hatate to those? Think he's quality too, but has been injured recently.

Is Tavernier not out of contract this summer? I know a lot of Rangers players are, they are looking at a big clearout this summer
I think that's next season, but I wouldn't moving on from Tav. As great as he is being a threat in the final third he's caught out far too often for my liking, especially in the big games.
 

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From Celtic there are a few players who would slot into EPL teams.

The new right back is defensively excellent and would suit clubs who don’t rely on full backs to attack.

Carter-Vickers, McGregor, Hatate and Jota all have the talent to move to the EPL. McGregor’s age will go against him now though. I’d say Kyogo too but his age and injury record would go against him.

From Rangers it is more difficult though. Maybe Raskin who I think looks excellent. Cantwell can play in the EPL and has proven to play well however needs to rediscover that form. Rangers have a lot of garbage and it will be an interesting summer for you guys.
 

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He was shite in a low block for us too when we were backs to the wall. Awful football player. Many better in Scotland who would be fine in england.
We were never backs to the wall in the SPL bar maybe at Ibrox.

Also, his dad just died before he signed for us. His head was all over the place. Scottish football is glorified league of Ireland. Standard has never been worse.
He was shite in a low block for us too when we were backs to the wall. Awful football player. Many better in Scotland who would be fine in england.
We never played a low block in SPL bar maybe at Ibrox. Also Shane's dad died just before he signed for us, his head was all over the place. SPL standard has never been worse. Its a glorified League of Ireland. Sligo beat Motherwell last Summer in a European qualifier. SPL is awful. I hate saying it as a Celtic fan but it's true.
 

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Agreed on those two, think they are mint. Even as a Rangers fan I'd add Hatate to those? Think he's quality too, but has been injured recently.



I think that's next season, but I wouldn't moving on from Tav. As great as he is being a threat in the final third he's caught out far too often for my liking, especially in the big games.
Tavernier signed a new contract about a year ago. He has at least 2 years left on his contract. Hatate can't get in Japanese squad. Excellent at SPL level but it's a glorified League of Ireland. Jota may improve and get to EPL. He has ability, no doubt and is young enough to improve. Our right back looks decent. Perhaps if he keeps improving, he may get to EPL also.
 

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Shane Duffy made a career in the Premier league. Many SPL players would be absolutely fine.
To be honest there are loads of SPL players who were fine, are currently doing well, or could do a job. For example Joe Worrall and Scott McKenna are ever presents in the EPL this year yet neither were considered close to the cream of the crop up here. Someone like Tavernier despite his concentration lapses would be a far better attacking outlet than what most teams (such as United) have - he was top scorer in the Europa League. Goldson and Carter-Vickers would be comfortable. Porteus wouldn’t look out of his depth in the bottom third. Same for Kent who would enjoy the space he could hit in a counter-attacking team. Despite never being true standouts in Scotland, Henderson, Ferguson and Doig moved to Serie A and haven’t missed a beat. Same would apply for McGregor (far better than McTominay/Fred), Jack (better for Scotland than Mctominay/Cairney), Hatate, Jota, Duk, Kyogo, Maeda (would be valuable for any high-pressing lower-table team). Even Morelos if he could be arsed could be an asset.
 

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What a great game this has been again.

Cantwell is bossing the game so far.
 

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Surely Hart should have saved that second one? He just couldn't be bothered.
 

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Fun game so far.

Wonder how it’d feel for Celtic to lose big just a week after securing the title.
 

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People are very critical of Scottish football but today is evidence of how good it can be for certain players.

Todd Cantwell is brilliant and clearly overcome his mental struggles. He said himself, he has a new lease of life in Scotland, loves the country and loving football again. If he moves back to England he will be thankful for moving to Scotland.

Joe Hart has said the same. It’s a different world in Scotland and the rivalry is insane.

Rangers are being very clever moving for Dowell, Butland and D.Sterling.
 

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Surely Hart should have saved that second one? He just couldn't be bothered.
He needs replaced. Completely flat footed for that goal.

For the 1st goal, he should have palmed it towards the corner flag, not back out in to the danger zone. Ridiculous!

Very sore 1 to lose today, but we must ensure we properly strengthen in Summer.
 

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People are very critical of Scottish football but today is evidence of how good it can be for certain players.
People like this just need to get the feck over it tbh. Yes, it's a worse league than the one you're used to. That puts it in the same category as nearly 200 other leagues. It's fine to make that observation, but some people seem to get a perverse pleasure from hammering the point home.
 

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Problem is Scottish football is so poor. Don't think any SPL player is good enough for Prem apart from maybe Carter Vickers and Calum Mcgregor. Certainly don't think any player is good enough for Man Utd as they are a top 4 / top 6 team.
You can still recognise ability in a player though regardless of what league they play in. The dutch league isn't the strongest in the world yet Utd raided that this past summer. I'm not sure Scottish football is as poor as you are making it out, it's only a year ago since Rangers lost Europa league final on penalties. You see clubs like Brighton raiding so called smaller leagues, such as the Ecuadorian league for players like Caicedo. Even Celtic in the past , Wanyama came from Beerscot in the Belgian league, Van Dijk came from Groningen. Talent is out there in these leagues, clubs just have to find it.
 

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You can still recognise ability in a player though regardless of what league they play in. The dutch league isn't the strongest in the world yet Utd raided that this past summer. I'm not sure Scottish football is as poor as you are making it out, it's only a year ago since Rangers lost Europa league final on penalties. You see clubs like Brighton raiding so called smaller leagues, such as the Ecuadorian league for players like Caicedo. Even Celtic in the past , Wanyama came from Beerscot in the Belgian league, Van Dijk came from Groningen. Talent is out there in these leagues, clubs just have to find it.
I am talking about presently. Presently, Scottish football is at its worst ever standard. There will be always be 1 or 2 players that play in Scotland that are good enough to play in a stronger league.

Regarding Rangers getting to a European final last season, the big game they won was Dortmund and Doetmund technical director described their performance over 2 legs as their worst ever. Rangers set up to counter attack and they rode a crest of a wave last season. This season, they got completely embarrassed in Europe. Play 6,got hammered in 6. Both Celtic and Rangers are really poor teams. When we had Larsson, Sutton, Agathe Moravcek, we were genuinely a good side. Those days are long gone. Sad because both club are genuinely huge clubs with ridiculously passionate fan bases.
 

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Congrats to Kevin van Veen on equaling Mark Viduka's record of scoring in 10 consecutive SPL games, its quite suprising how that record has lasted 23 years given some of the strikers Celtic and Rangers have had in that time.
 

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Congrats to Kevin van Veen on equaling Mark Viduka's record of scoring in 10 consecutive SPL games, its quite suprising how that record has lasted 23 years given some of the strikers Celtic and Rangers have had in that time.
He’s a brilliant finisher, great at free kicks and cool from the spot.

He will have one final payday I believe as his age is definitely going against him but he’s been brilliant against every team including the Old Firm teams. A move to an English club, league one or championship I reckon.