Exactly my point.An Extremely Boring Man said:
Scousers disregard for the FA Cup is despicable
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How do you know Morientes wont be better for us than Owen? Whilst a great goal scorer Owen's team play was poor. Nando can hopefully form a partnership with Baros scoring goals himself and providing assists, something that Owen could never do.An Extremely Boring Man said:
Garica is probably on a par with Murphy at the moment, but when on form Garcia is the better of the two.
Too early to tell about Cisse but at least he will be played as an out and out striker rather than a target man, which left Heskey ineffective.
And that's why I think you're fecked, unless you sell out - and even then it will take a hell of a lot of money from the benefactor to put you back on competitive terms...LWAR said:
Nando?LWAR said:
Like 'Rafa' and 'Ged'?
I don't know, nor do you.LWAR said:
I think Owen is a better striker than Morientes.
Have seen nothing to suggest Garcia isbetter than Murphy, and Garcia is alo a lightwieght, which Murphy wasn't.
It's not only about the players capabilities. Although Murphy wa only a squad player (a handy one though) and Heskey crap, in addition to Owen, they were English and Liverpool through and through. You've replaced three English players, who knows the league etc with three foreign players, with all that that might bring.
Is there something wrong with them, that unable them to actually call a player by his proper name?spinoza said:Nando?
Like 'Rafa' and 'Ged'?
Carra
Ste
Pelle
etc
Just to think that United were linked to Dudek when he was still at Feyenoord. Glad that did not go ahead. 
being as that they were just playing in the same team and morientes was not getting games ahead of owen, i think it's pretty safe to say that owen is better than morientes.LWAR said:
To call Nunez a relative dissapointment is paying him huge and undeserved compliment. Even with your stolen scouse glasses on you have to see him for the shocker that he is.LWAR said:
Deserves the same status as Sean Dundee in the Liverpool history books.
I suppose it's slightly more inventive than Keano, Giggsy, Scholesy etc.spinoza said:Nando?
Like 'Rafa' and 'Ged'?
Dont forget the ugly sisters, 'Phizza' & 'Gazza'...LWAR said:I suppose it's slightly more inventive than Keano, Giggsy, Scholesy etc.
Let's not forget 'Becks' when he was there....
Owen is certainly the better striker, but my point is that I think Morientes might link up better with his team mates.An Extremely Boring Man said:
Garcia has shown flashes of brilliance but is far too inconsistent. Which I suppose is somewhat better than Murphy who was generally rubbish.
I wouldn't call Owen 'Liverpool through and through'. I don't think it matters much where a player is from if they're shite, Arsenal don't do too badly with only a few English.
DJS said:Dont forget the ugly sisters, 'Phizza' & 'Gazza'...
Let's not forget 'Becks' when he was there....
A better striker yes, but better in our team? Who knows.Kevrockcity said:
That's a bit harsh, he's only played five games I think.Furious George said:
LWAR said:
It's perfectly reasonable to judge a player after just a few games....(if he plays LFC, that is)...The epitome of this moronic type of thinking was highlighted and summed up beautifully by AEBM recently on a thread where, in expressing whether or not Tim Howard (signed summer 2003) was a good signing, AEBM explained that it was 'too early to say'....and then proceeded to conclude that Josemi, Garcia and Nunez (all signed in summer 2004) are 'shit'....
DJS said:
The epitome of this moronic type of thinking was highlighted and summed up beautifully by AEBM recently on a thread where, in expressing whether or not Tim Howard (signed summer 2003) was a good signing, AEBM explained that it was 'too early to say'....and then proceeded to conclude that Josemi, Garcia and Nunez (all signed in summer 2004) are 'shit'....
I don't mind, I'm used to Mancs and their inability to be objective. Oh wait, hold on, some of them rate Stevie G, how wrong I was! Some of them also rate Owen....now.
And they used to rate Morientes....but oddly enough, not any more....strange....
And they used to rate Morientes....but oddly enough, not any more....strange....
That Danny Murphy's a handy player too and Diouf's a great forward...now.DJS said:
Morientes and Owen are both good strikers, Gerrard is a good player as well...
I think the problem lies somewhere between "OH MY GOD RAFA AND STEVE WILL CONQUOR THE WORLD" and "OH MY GOD SCOUSERS ARE STUPID".
Obviously ramming your heads at eachother isn't changing anyone else's opinion. That's exactly what they are, opinions. Keano showed that Gerrard isn't the best in the world the other day... but on other occassions our players have disappeared too..
I think the problem lies somewhere between "OH MY GOD RAFA AND STEVE WILL CONQUOR THE WORLD" and "OH MY GOD SCOUSERS ARE STUPID".
Obviously ramming your heads at eachother isn't changing anyone else's opinion. That's exactly what they are, opinions. Keano showed that Gerrard isn't the best in the world the other day... but on other occassions our players have disappeared too..
Murphy's rubbishLWAR said:That Danny Murphy's a handy player too and Diouf's a great forward...now.
So's Diouf
Morientes was good, but ineffectual against us
Liverpool are currently shite, as they have been for most of the last 14 years
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DJS said:
Yes, also funny how Beckham is now world class and now Rooney is shite..
Never rated Morientes myself. Spent most of his time on loan or on the bench and didnt see anything last weekend to change my mind. Owen always had potential, but his last year at Liverpool was dire so if anyone rates Owen now thats more of a reflection of Liverpool's general poor performance not the player especially.
You are really slow, aren't you?DJS said:
The epitome of this moronic type of thinking was highlighted and summed up beautifully by AEBM recently on a thread where, in expressing whether or not Tim Howard (signed summer 2003) was a good signing, AEBM explained that it was 'too early to say'....and then proceeded to conclude that Josemi, Garcia and Nunez (all signed in summer 2004) are 'shit'....
Howard - had a good first season, a below par second season; i.e. Too early too tell what the real Tim Howard is.
Josemi and Nunez are just crap - it doesn't take a genius to see that.
Murphy is a good player to have in the squad. Can play across the midfield, and pops up with quite a few goals.spinoza said:
Diouf's rubbish.
Morientes I've in the past said is a Spanish Andy Cole - good goalscorer, but not a top drawer striker.
Beckham's always been shite. He's the most overrated player in football history and his talents consist of crossing the ball and looking pretty.Gutsy said:Yes, also funny how Beckham is now world class and now Rooney is shite..
Never rated Morientes myself. Spent most of his time on loan or on the bench and didnt see anything last weekend to change my mind. Owen always had potential, but his last year at Liverpool was dire so if anyone rates Owen now thats more of a reflection of Liverpool's general poor performance not the player especially.
Rooney's a twat but a good player, given the right coaching he should go on to be world class.
I think this is the consensus of most Liverpool fans.
Clueless idiotLWAR said:
Go watch some United games from between 1997 and 2000, and come back and tell us that Beckham have always been shite
Who said that then?Gutsy said:Yes, also funny how Beckham is now world class and now Rooney is shite..
LWAR said:
Calm it rent boy, just a difference of opinion! I've never rated Beckham, which considering he has no pace, can't beat a man and plays out wide is fair enough. Whilst I think he was better at Utd than at Real I just think he's been found out at the Spanish giants. With ageing galacticos around him rather than the players he had at Old Trafford he's proving me right.An Extremely Boring Man said:
I seem to recall some fans shouting the odds over United fielding weak teams against allegedly inferior opposition a while ago and going out and were strongly accused to defacing the competition. It was the FA cup also! Strange how things come back to haunt this people, isn't it?
Who shouted the odds over United fielding weak teams?soccerbest said:
LWAR said:
Nonsence, Beckhams being found out because he cant play centre midfield and he doesnt have Fergusons guidance.
A winger doesnt HAVE to have pace and ability to beat a man, you know. Im the furthest thing from a Beckham obsessive that you will find, but from 96-01 he was fantastic for Manchester United.
I never really rated Bex, ok he was great at what he did but waaaaaaay overrated. One of his best attributes imo was his workrate.
I never rated Owen either.
I never rated Owen either.
you scousers.DJS said:
Every single scouser and Liverpool fan?soccerbest said:
When was that?
God you are a pedantic gobshite sometimes.DJS said:
So why can't he?VanNistelrater said:
I always thought the likes of Giggs, Scholes and Keane were far superior yet rated less. It's a funny old game.
LWAR said:
Becks was top notch pre 2000. Great stamina, hunger and the ability to put in amazing crosses. Yes he was limited, but what he didn't have, he made up with his desire. Of course he was overrated, but to call him shite is taking the piss.... and that comes from a person who wanted him out of Old Trafford since way back in 2001!
Good player at this best.... (Fergie got the best out his 'limited' ability.... )
Not surprised he's failed big time at Madrid, tho'. He was never destined to be a central midfielder. Couldn't tackle, had no pace, his short passing wasn't all that good....... but heh, did he listen???