Should managers only be allowed to move during transfer windows?

Berbaclass

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Quite an interesting thought this, actually don't hate the suggestion. Whether or not it's true though...

 

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Would potentially end up working against them, they’d still get ‘sacked’ if they underperformed, but would just be put on gardening leave and then be forced to wait almost half a season before they could work again.
 

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Would potentially end up working against them, they’d still get ‘sacked’ if they underperformed, but would just be put on gardening leave and then be forced to wait almost half a season before they could work again.
If it works like transfer windows then you can't bring in new managers, you could sack the current manager and just have the assistant take his place until the next window

I don't care about the idea either way. Would punish clubs who don't hire right so that's fine
 

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If ETH can find a way to take Antony with him, he can leave whenever he wants.
 

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Stupid idea. Imagine the carnage in January when half the managers get binned? You'll get less time as a manager because if you're having some shaky form coming into the window you're just going to get fired without getting the chance to turn it around because teams don't want to get relegated.
 

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Stupid idea. Imagine the carnage in January when half the managers get binned? You'll get less time as a manager because if you're having some shaky form coming into the window you're just going to get fired without getting the chance to turn it around because teams don't want to get relegated.
Or it just gets agreed outside the window that x manager will leave and y manager will come in once the window opens.
 

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Daft idea, since you need to be able to remove anyone from any organisation at the drop of a hat. Players can be frozen out for a while, like in our case. Can't do the same with the manager.
 

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How is it different to what Tuchel or Klopp is currently doing?
They haven't been sacked. They're either resigning or finishing up their contracts and leaving. People get sacked for being bad at their job, imagine we had to keep Ole, Moyes or Mourinho until the end of the season despite the shite they were churning out week after week? How is that a good situation for anyone involved?
 

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Out of contract managers should be free to move whenever. But as buying managers out of their contracts seems to become more of the norm, it would make sense to offer some protection for clubs and make moves like these possible inly during transfer periods. So I guess im in favour.
 

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They haven't been sacked. They're either resigning or finishing up their contracts and leaving. People get sacked for being bad at their job, imagine we had to keep Ole, Moyes or Mourinho until the end of the season despite the shite they were churning out week after week? How is that a good situation for anyone involved?
But surely if this rule was to come into action you'd see fewer 'sackings' as a result as teams would have to be more proactive than reactive. Also possibly shorter term deals a possibility?

Not saying it's a brilliant idea just found the concept interesting.
 

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I'd be up for it, if it means the contract is not payable in the summer.

No strings attached release in summer and winter transfer windows.
 

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But surely if this rule was to come into action you'd see fewer 'sackings' as a result as teams would have to be more proactive than reactive. Also possibly shorter term deals a possibility?

Not saying it's a brilliant idea just found the concept interesting.
Nah, you'll get more knee jerk sackings going into the window because that's your last chance before the end of the season to change the manager. The next time you get the chance to do so you might have already missed out on CL football or been relegated.
 

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Nah, you'll get more knee jerk sackings going into the window because that's your last chance before the end of the season to change the manager. The next time you get the chance to do so you might have already missed out on CL football or been relegated.
So we end up with managers still getting sacked but in a predetermined period of the season? I don't think in theory that's an awful idea.

Maybe in reality it might not work but again it's just an interesting proposal and I've not really thought about it in depth and what the potential effects may or may not be.
 

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So we end up with managers still getting sacked but in a predetermined period of the season? I don't think in theory that's an awful idea.

Maybe in reality it might not work but again it's just an interesting proposal and I've not really thought about it in depth and what the potential effects may or may not be.
But its counter productive to what it's trying to achieve. If you want managers to have more time then win games. Forcing them to stay in a job that's gone toxic isn't going to help the situation, and for the most part managers only go when it gets to that point and the players stop playing for them. With a window you're asking boards to proactively sack managers if they think there's a chance that might happen in the second half of the season. We've seen it enough times, by keeping managers too long, that is simply doesn't work to keep them around. We're all just waiting around for the inevitable to happen.
 

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But its counter productive to what it's trying to achieve. If you want managers to have more time then win games. Forcing them to stay in a job that's gone toxic isn't going to help the situation, and for the most part managers only go when it gets to that point and the players stop playing for them. With a window you're asking boards to proactively sack managers if they think there's a chance that might happen in the second half of the season. We've seen it enough times, by keeping managers too long, that is simply doesn't work to keep them around. We're all just waiting around for the inevitable to happen.
Is the potential toxicity not based on the current system where the players have too much power and a manager could literally go at any point? If there are windows then it could take some of that power away from the players as they know it won't be like that anymore.
 

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Is the potential toxicity not based on the current system where the players have too much power and a manager could literally go at any point? If there are windows then it could take some of that power away from the players as they know it won't be like that anymore.
The players should hold most of the power. You don't want a workplace that's run by a dictator. A good manager will get people onside or move them on if they're toxic. The worst thing you can do is give a bad manager more time than they deserve. You will lose all your best players.
 

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The players should hold most of the power. You don't want a workplace that's run by a dictator. A good manager will get people onside or move them on if they're toxic. The worst thing you can do is give a bad manager more time than they deserve. You will lose all your best players.
Can't agree with this.
 

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The players should hold most of the power. You don't want a workplace that's run by a dictator. A good manager will get people onside or move them on if they're toxic. The worst thing you can do is give a bad manager more time than they deserve. You will lose all your best players.
United's most successful manager was a footballing dictator!
 

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It could work against job security in the sense if some clubs are 50/50 about their current manager, but the transfer window was about to close…

Would push a few to bite the bullet and get rid while they had the chance.
 

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If it works like transfer windows then you can't bring in new managers, you could sack the current manager and just have the assistant take his place until the next window
I think Spurs did this with Conte and had his assistant step in when they sacked him.
 

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Clubs should be allowed have a squad of managers and should be allowed to pick whichever one they want to take charge of each game.

Or maybe they should advocate for sacking underperforming players the same way as underperforming managers get sacked.