Played really well for 5/6 seasons
.We pass just fine to players who move for the ball. The fact you want us to pass more to a player standing still in poor positions says all we need to hear about the depths of your football wisdom.
Should we give up on Anthony Martial?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
.We pass just fine to players who move for the ball. The fact you want us to pass more to a player standing still in poor positions says all we need to hear about the depths of your football wisdom.
Hey no - but comparing a player who's won a few trophies for us, scored 80 goals with someone who's never had a premier league appearance is the real football wisdom.Played really well for 5/6 seasons
We pass just fine to players who move for the ball. The fact you want us to pass more to a player standing still in poor positions says all we need to hear about the depths of your football wisdom.
Pointless post, he is going nowhere.
Martial has only really 2 good enough seasons for United in these 6 years, the first one and 2019/2020. The rest has ranged from outright bad (like that last season or 2016/2017) to decent but nothing spectacular.
Cavani probably made more runs into space in 6 months than Martial had in 6 years.Played really well for 5/6 seasons
We pass just fine to players who move for the ball. The fact you want us to pass more to a player standing still in poor positions says all we need to hear about the depths of your football wisdom.
I think he’s a decent player and arguably second most clinical in front of goal at the club but when you can say that and also probably correctly argue his departure would likely barely be notice it says all you need to know
At his best I think he's a reliable rotational attacker for a title winning team or the top 3 scorers in a top club in Budesliga or Ligue 1. If we want to win the title we need players with his quality on the bench. That said, I wouldn't mind selling him to fund a DM cause it seems we dont have the budget for one
I've explained the Morrison point about 6 times at this stage. If you're incapable of reading the context there's nothing more I can do to help you.Hey no - but comparing a player who's won a few trophies for us, scored 80 goals with someone who's never had a premier league appearance is the real football wisdom.
Why don't you tell us again how shit Messi would be if he was stuck playing with Rashford and Greenwood.
This. When he was injured no one really missed him and we started scoring more goals.
Yes.
Give up as in sell him this summer? No. We don't have the depth to afford it, but we should be looking to bring someone to replace Cavani, Martial is not the guy to bet on.
No club will accept his obscene wages, so we’re stuck with Martial unless we offload him on a free transfer. If he can accept being a squad player and put in a meaningful shift when called upon I’d gave no problem keeping him.
But it’s clear as day he’s done with us.
But it’s clear as day he’s done with us.
Honestly, I love him as a player but it depends. If we can get 50m+ and are using that to invest in the CB/CDM area, it's a no-brainer.
Despite having ole and cavani to learn from he has actually got worse. Some people can't be helped.
Yes, his salary is a top class salary, but if you compare him and aged Cavani, he looked like he is not good enough in that position in premier league.
Also, his performance is extremely different when he is good and bad form which cannot bring us to another level.
Also, his performance is extremely different when he is good and bad form which cannot bring us to another level.
Yes.
My first reaction was to keep him for another season but the more I think about it, I suspect it’s difficult to have a player on 250K wages per week sit on the bench. Then everyone who is in the first 11 will want to be at that same wage. Can we use a mix of James, Amad and Elanga as rotation options assuming Mason is backup 9? Mason looked pretty good in that Leicester game when he started at 9.
Actually the gave up on himself I think. Drooped shoulders, sulking and half assed jogs becoming his style too often. When was the last time he misplaced a pass, quickly get up and run down the opponents, or even visibly try to do something like that? Is not like we are asking for him to do a rooney, at least try what alan smith did. Show some hunger. Its seems to me he kinda resigned. Such a drop in standard. Im not sure if his mentality or some other personal issues. I like him but the man need a major bollocking. Sell him? Maybe if the money is good, or else just stay as cover for rashford and cavani. Im sure a senior striker like him would cost a fortune at todays rate.
So you want him to be top scorer playing from the left? That was never going to happen under Jose, with Lukaku or Ibra up top.
Signing Sancho on the right gives us another creator, rather than having Rashford, Martial, James who all rely more on pace (although we’ve seen Rashford get better in this regard, before his form really fell off a cliff). This is why I believe Southgate started Saka on the opposite flank to Grealish.
If we can get £40/50 million then we should take it and spend in midfield, but I doubt anyone is dropping that kind of money during COVID, after the season he just had.
Offer him plus money to Spurs for Kane. I think otherwise hes a good squad option unless you can get good money for him
What is the plan for Greenwood? Are we going to turn him into a striker? If his future is a striker then there is no point to keep Martial if there is decent offer coming. We can use his wages to give Pogba a new contract and the transfer fee to buy new midfield.
spot on, I dont miss him if he leaves. 250K a week, Stealing money.
Would someone offer £40-50 mill for him? Hes too inconsistant and cant take criticism and rise above it, it seems. I cant see a regular starting place for him and hes paid too much to sit on the bench.
I think plenty of teams would take a chance on him but not with the wages he’s on. He might go on loan with an obligation to buy but otherwise we’re probably not going to be able to move him on. I’ll choose to see the positives on this and that Martial and Rashford vying for the left side of attack would push both of them to up their consistency or lose out.
Is he definitely on 250k
Think so. He will rotate between right and up front whilst he grows into his body, but I do think the club sees him as a striker.
I do think if he was willing to take a pay cut we would find some clubs interested in his services,
Yes but whenever we do sign a player or look at signing a player majority on here are like ‘but what about that player’.
Ohh well in that case we may as well sell the majority of our squad because they are all inconsistent while earning large sums of money.
Martial is still our only attacking player besides Cavani who can properly play with his back to goal and link up the play.
Wouldn't mind if we replace him with someone who can fill that striker role. Can fetch us good money as well.
He has had enough chances here. Time to move on.
He has had enough chances here. Time to move on.
I'm all for getting rid now but your post has given me a reason for a rethink. When you see it written down it probably is the most obvious solution.Play Martial on the left awhile and I think he'll come alive again. Rashford needs operating on and/or resting, now's the time to do it, give Martial a good long spell there before the January transfer window, and we'll see where we are then
How come?
I was trying to say that unless we get a good offer for him (£50 million +) which provides us the funds to re-invest, then I think he should stay as he still has some quality to offer as part of our squad rotation.
I’m not desperate to see him sold, so I don’t think we should just sell him for the sake of it.
Ask yourselves this: have you seen any improvement in Martial since he exploded onto the scene on his debut? To me he is still much the same player and hasn’t added anything new to his game. In fact, he’s stayed static or regressed a bit.
Yes, it's very apparent his attitude sucks. That became even more noticable with cavani coming in.
Cavani would run none stop for 90 mins. He'd help out defensively and be constantly making runs up front. Then you've got martial who just walks around all game and barely sprint's.
It could be a lingard type situation where a move away is better for everone concerned.
Cavani would run none stop for 90 mins. He'd help out defensively and be constantly making runs up front. Then you've got martial who just walks around all game and barely sprint's.
It could be a lingard type situation where a move away is better for everone concerned.
Yes, get rid.
From another perspective, what does it say about Martial that he hasn't performed consistently for any of those 3 managers although they are all in different styles? If all our 3 managers are in the same mound of Jose, then you may say that about Martial.
If you look at the nigh-incalculably-idiotic fellow who ran the club for the past few years, it seems highly probable.
This is actually true which says it all really. There are probably less than 5 players in the EPL who don't have a better workrate than Rashford.
He'll score 5 goals in 6 games and then be awful for three months, score another 5 in 6 and continue that cycle.