Not sure. I did read something about how if one sells the voting rights are scattered proportionately amongst the others but that seems crazy how that could be done. You’d think one of them could just sell their voting right shares should they wish.
Sir Jim Ratcliffe: I want to buy Manchester United | Will make a bid for the club [Telegraph]
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The PL won’t sit there and allow that to happen
You'd certainly hope they would step in, and maybe I'm being cynical, but the PL stepping in and helping United is not something I would like to rely on. More likely they'd introduce new rules preventing this after it happened to us
And to think, all this just ‘cos Fergie felt entitled to some horse cum.
I hope so. Or if we are sold to an investment firm
I wouldn’t rely on it no but there would be a public outcry and given they are quite conscious of the fit and proper rules following Chelsea, and the debates raised in parliament, I’m confident that anything like that by the Glazers would result in an intervention
You're probably right, I'm just a bit bitter they introduced 'anti-Glazer' measures after we had to act as a bad example, measures that won't help us (the original victims) at all
Me too mate. They are bellends of the highest order.
They didn't back in 2005 so I wouldn't count on it.
Gotta keep cranking up the pressure on these pathetic people. We won’t accept selling off future tv rights or partial sales to investment groups. We want a full sale of the club to an owner who wants the best for United. We also won’t be blinded by shiny new signing in an attempt to keep us quiet. We now have a viable and what looks like a potential decent owner in Jim Ratcliffe, we must unite as a fan group instead of bickering amongst ourselves. We are all United fans regardless of our geographical locations and all want what is best for our club.
#glazersout
#glazersout
Sadly it can. Hopefully they can do it in some months though.
If the Glazers won’t settle for anything less than £3.5b (current value) and are paying themselves an annual dividend in the region of £22m that would mean based on the current arrangement, they’d be collecting the same amount for the next 160 years presupposing they refuse to sell?
I’ve been thinking about why there’s clearly been a shift in transfer policy. ETH didn’t want to move from De Jong because spending elsewhere could stop him getting him due to no funds. Rabiot was cheap so could be done. Nothing has changed with De Jong so the only other explanation is more funds. Why? I think we’re about to go batshit crazy in the next 10 days. Billions are at stake here. Ratcliffe is clearly using the press (Times and Sky) to try and force the glazers out via fan pressure. This will make their position more untenable and decrease the price needed to purchase the club. On the other hand Avram and Joel despite briefings deep down probably want to sell - but for a super high price so need it to be from a position of strength - the only way to stop the level of protests that are building in the short term is spending money and winning games - and if they’re selling anyway it doesn’t matter how much is spent - not their money or issue going forward. We can spend 250m net under FFP rules…
Power games are happening and the big winner over the next few weeks is ETH - he’s about to get whatever he wants. I think we’re about to have a cracking window and also get rid of the glazers in the medium term as fan sentiment isn’t for turning now there is at least one viable buyer - it’s all about the price. The club is waking up!
We’ll still getting smashed by Liverpool though
Power games are happening and the big winner over the next few weeks is ETH - he’s about to get whatever he wants. I think we’re about to have a cracking window and also get rid of the glazers in the medium term as fan sentiment isn’t for turning now there is at least one viable buyer - it’s all about the price. The club is waking up!
We’ll still getting smashed by Liverpool though
If the reports are true and only Joel wants to remain then that's progress!
Avram seems to have caved in that case!
Avram seems to have caved in that case!
Mass down-rating of all sponsors. Make it clear that United are bad for business
I have to point out that was 17 years ago and rules have changed since then
Maybe it was coming over to Manchester to hear the chants against them.
The issue with the Glazers is that they’re able to completely ignore what is happening over here and take the money. It’s easy for them. That’s why US based United fans also have a duty to make our feelings visible to them.
This will fizzle out. It always does.
Do it Jim. One true King to unite the armies. The North is ready!
Aged well
You’re 69, Jim. Crack on.
I’d take a night with Sir Jim in his stockings if it meant he put down a £6bn take it or leave it offer to the Glazer scum
JR is nearly 70. If he wants the club and to have a good run and rebuild it, he needs to start whipping his cash out
Hope this really accelerates in the coming weeks
JR is nearly 70. If he wants the club and to have a good run and rebuild it, he needs to start whipping his cash out
Hope this really accelerates in the coming weeks
How can we help his efforts?
What does Santa have anything to do with it?
Hey, his tactic worked, doesn't mean I was wrong
If Oliver had 70 million euros I'm sure the cook would have give him more.
As someone pointed out online... if the club is NOT for sale then the club needs to come out with a statement directly to say that this is the case to avoid market manipulation. You saw how the share price increased when the Elon Musk tweet came out, ironically the same day that the Ratcliffe story came about. And yet radio silence. I dont know seems a bit dodgy...
Again this forum needs to be the no1 on redcafe. The FDJ thread has over 1000 pages and this one has 36???? For me this is the only thread that’s important for the future of United. Not a thread about slagging off a player or a thread about ETH, this thread about removing this toxic ownership is the only thread we as a community should be focused on. Unite to get the glazers out not be distracted by paper talk of an incoming signing as that’s what they want to do, divide the fan base and hope that #glazersout just fizzles out once again until they take more money out of the club then we start up again. NOW is the time to force them out once and for all, enough is enough and it’s time for them to go. If the fan base put as much effort, passion and commitment into this thread like they do on silly transfer threads then we will start to gain traction and hopefully show a potential buyer that we both want and need them, now!!!!
#glazersout
#glazersout
A club not commenting on speculation is not market manipulation
Was also the same day the story about them looking at selling part of the club came out, so nothing ironic about it, just hard to work out what it all meant.
Whilst this is massively important for the club, you’re really not helping anything constantly making these points. You’re comparing something running constantly with updates (admittedly, always the same two updates) for several months to something with zero updates for less than a week in terms of posts. You’re taking side swipes at people you need to singing from the same hymn sheet for literally no reason.
You’re actively hindering the cause you’re trying to push with the tone you’re using.
Think that’s the funniest thing I’ve read in a while and proves my point about a divided fan base . Not quite sure how I’m hindering the cause, didn’t realise my words carried so much weight. If you’d prefer to focus on transfers etc then go ahead, that’s your choice but in my humble opinion all of our focus needs to be getting the glazers out of the club. Thanks for the compliment though, made my day
It's more that no one will take you serious
It’s that no one takes United fans or the club serious anymore. People don’t have to take me seriously FFS, but when the FDJ thread has 1000+ pages and this one has 36 there is the problem, a divided fan base and you getting all uptight proves it. The club is rotting from the top to the bottom and instead of a United fanbase we have lots of different agendas which doesn’t help. By the way if you keep replying then at least you’re listening
I’m not focused on transfers at all, in fact I literally said I agreed with your broader point. However your jabs at folk who might be more moderate is exactly how division occurs, and doing it endlessly just makes people zone out to what you’re saying.
There’s lots of ways to make the point without endlessly going on about how this is the single most important thing without actually adding anything, as if anything that anybody else is talking about is minor. Again, I agree with what you’re saying, it IS a much bigger picture, but getting high and mighty over it is only cutting the legs from under it. You convince people to join you by taking them on a journey and showing what could be, not by telling them they’re idiots for not immediately being sold on what you want them to be.
I think it's been mentioned Ratcliffe is being advised by a Co92 member, we know it's Neville. His relationship with Sky helps us there and as you said Times, and even the Athletic seem to be developing this anti-Glazer narrative. All good for us as fans need to read this stuff everyday to keep the pressure up on the Glazers.
Are you the Judean People's Front?
It's not reasonable to expect everyone to just forget about the football side. There is still an outside possibility that we may start doing well, it's possible to be pleased about that and still want the Glazers out. There are a good few people who have the drive and passion to focus only on that, and thank god for them, but they'll need everybody with them.
Everyone is welcome in the Glazerout family.
We don't
Who do you think it is if not him?