Desert Eagle
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Think we'd want a higher standard than better than the Glazers.If he literally just takes us over and does nothing more he’ll be way better than the current owners.
Think we'd want a higher standard than better than the Glazers.If he literally just takes us over and does nothing more he’ll be way better than the current owners.
That was pretty much my thinking to? Yes an owner putting in some money to help us is the goal, and Ratcliffe can invest in stadium and infrastructure and clear the debt without putting in too much because he's not a gulf state. But it's my understanding we are a pretty self sustaining club in terms of everything else because we are so big and we earn a lot. We just need owners who will allow alot of the income to be invested back into the club and not drained out by the owners instead. Give me Ratcliffe any day of the week over blood money like Dubai. No Billionaire is a saint but there is levels.At least he’s not a gulf state. We don’t need money, we need somebody who cares about the club and allows us to spend our own money well without taking it out.
That was pretty much my thinking to? Yes an owner putting in some money to help us is the goal, and Ratcliffe can invest in stadium and infrastructure and clear the debt without putting in too much because he's not a gulf state. But it's my understanding we are a pretty self sustaining club in terms of everything else because we are so big and we earn a lot. We just need owners who will allow alot of the income to be invested back into the club and not drained out by the owners instead. Give me Ratcliffe any day of the week over blood money like Dubai. No Billionaire is a saint but there is levels.
But how will the idiots be placated if we’re not spending 600 million every summer? Doesn’t matter how many thousand slaves have died raising that fund.That was pretty much my thinking to? Yes an owner putting in some money to help us is the goal, and Ratcliffe can invest in stadium and infrastructure and clear the debt without putting in too much because he's not a gulf state. But it's my understanding we are a pretty self sustaining club in terms of everything else because we are so big and we earn a lot. We just need owners who will allow alot of the income to be invested back into the club and not drained out by the owners instead. Give me Ratcliffe any day of the week over blood money like Dubai. No Billionaire is a saint but there is levels.
I'm not sure what Jim will do, but I guess its speculation because we truly don't know, the question is, is Jim the right person? based on his other clubs, maybe not.
No one is going to pay the entire billions from their personal account. It will be come in the form of lending which means, there will be a debt on the club. All depends on how much money can the buyer raise without taking money on the club. So this idea that we don't need money from outside isn't correct.At least he’s not a gulf state. We don’t need money, we need somebody who cares about the club and allows us to spend our own money well without taking it out.
I cannot see a difference between him and the Glazers other than nationality
Why not?
Read up on what he’s done at nice and it’s grim.Why not?
At least he’s not a gulf state. We don’t need money, we need somebody who cares about the club and allows us to spend our own money well without taking it out.
Ya I’ll take that with a pinch of salt. This guy supports Man Utd and knows the shitshow that is currently going on at the club. The other alternative is an another American owner or if you dislike Jim so much why not hang onto the Glazers and let them bleed the club dry ? Or maybe you want some Arabs taking over ?We do not want Ratcliffe - we’d be calling for the Glazers back before long…..
This is what a French flair on r/soccer said last time the Ratcliffe news popped up.
You should look at what they are doing with the football club they currently own. Their methods may work in lesser sports, but they have zero knowledge about football and they lack the humility to realize it.
Brailsford has apparently taken a liking to being a sporting director, but he's completely out of his depth and it shows in Nice.
And another comment
Every interview with sports directors who've left the team is the same retelling of how Brailsford (the baldy) hires smart people with huge wads of money, those people make smart decisions, then Dave gets into one of his nervous panics, decides he knows better demands they do everything differently and things fall apart
But at least in football there's no doping questions to literally run away from, like he did with that journalist in 2015
This is a comment about another club he/INEOS owns.
He (or rather his company INEOS) also own Swiss side Lausanne Sport and they're absolutely shit now. They've basically been (ab)used as a loan farm for OGC Nice players. They had absolutely no strategic vision for the club. They've transformed more and more into a plastic club without any true identity. Last season they got relegated despite some fairly hefty investments made by INEOS over the years. It's quite surprising given that other clubs manage to stay in the Swiss top flight despite far lower budgets
We do not want Ratcliffe - we’d be calling for the Glazers back before long…..
This is what a French flair on r/soccer said last time the Ratcliffe news popped up.
You should look at what they are doing with the football club they currently own. Their methods may work in lesser sports, but they have zero knowledge about football and they lack the humility to realize it.
Brailsford has apparently taken a liking to being a sporting director, but he's completely out of his depth and it shows in Nice.
And another comment
Every interview with sports directors who've left the team is the same retelling of how Brailsford (the baldy) hires smart people with huge wads of money, those people make smart decisions, then Dave gets into one of his nervous panics, decides he knows better demands they do everything differently and things fall apart
But at least in football there's no doping questions to literally run away from, like he did with that journalist in 2015
This is a comment about another club he/INEOS owns.
He (or rather his company INEOS) also own Swiss side Lausanne Sport and they're absolutely shit now. They've basically been (ab)used as a loan farm for OGC Nice players. They had absolutely no strategic vision for the club. They've transformed more and more into a plastic club without any true identity. Last season they got relegated despite some fairly hefty investments made by INEOS over the years. It's quite surprising given that other clubs manage to stay in the Swiss top flight despite far lower budgets
At least he’s not a gulf state. We don’t need money, we need somebody who cares about the club and allows us to spend our own money well without taking it out.
Jim'll fix it. Jim'll fix it for you.
No one is going to pay the entire billions from their personal account. It will be come in the form of lending which means, there will be a debt on the club. All depends on how much money can the buyer raise without taking money on the club. So this idea that we don't need money from outside isn't correct.
What makes you support Jim so highly?Ya I’ll take that with a pinch of salt. This guy supports Man Utd and knows the shitshow that is currently going on at the club. The other alternative is an another American owner or if you dislike Jim so much why not hang onto the Glazers and let them bleed the club dry ? Or maybe you want some Arabs taking over ?
Hell get outbid unfortunately
Shouldn't he be a bit competent though?
Well, for starters, he'll be using his own money to buy United rather than leveraging heaps of debt onto the club.
He actually won't. He does not have anywhere close to 6 billion in cash and so if he buys the club he is going to do it with a loan. He is also not some altruistic soul who is going to dip into his own pockets to pay off the existing debts.
On the offchance that he is going to make a serious offer for the club he is going to finance it through a bank and secure it with his assets, he would be free to shift the burden for that financing onto the club if he is succesful which is effectively what the Glazers did. There is nothing to suggest he will be any less motivated by self interest and greed than our current owners, if you look at his past dealings it is quite probable he would be worse. It seems a lot of people are being hoodwinked by the he is a local boy who supports the club narrative but the truth is he is a shark who openly supported Chelsea for many years. The whole package is all a bit project Leave for my tastes, promise the world and deliver disaster.
We’ll be called noncechester United.Jim'll fix it. Jim'll fix it for you.
He actually won't. He does not have anywhere close to 6 billion in cash and so if he buys the club he is going to do it with a loan. He is also not some altruistic soul who is going to dip into his own pockets to pay off the existing debts.
On the offchance that he is going to make a serious offer for the club he is going to finance it through a bank and secure it with his assets, he would be free to shift the burden for that financing onto the club if he is succesful which is effectively what the Glazers did. There is nothing to suggest he will be any less motivated by self interest and greed than our current owners, if you look at his past dealings it is quite probable he would be worse. It seems a lot of people are being hoodwinked by the he is a local boy who supports the club narrative but the truth is he is a shark who openly supported Chelsea for many years. The whole package is all a bit project Leave for my tastes, promise the world and deliver disaster.
Shouldn't he be a bit competent though?
Bit harsh on De Gea, he’s not been awful this seasonIf he does take over 1st major appointment should be Edwin Van Der Sar in at the club.
unless someone comes along like an oil state it’s only going to get worst really, United will just be paying the interest on 6b of debt instead of 600m it’s getting a bit daft tbh
He actually won't. He does not have anywhere close to 6 billion in cash and so if he buys the club he is going to do it with a loan. He is also not some altruistic soul who is going to dip into his own pockets to pay off the existing debts.
On the offchance that he is going to make a serious offer for the club he is going to finance it through a bank and secure it with his assets, he would be free to shift the burden for that financing onto the club if he is succesful which is effectively what the Glazers did. There is nothing to suggest he will be any less motivated by self interest and greed than our current owners, if you look at his past dealings it is quite probable he would be worse. It seems a lot of people are being hoodwinked by the he is a local boy who supports the club narrative but the truth is he is a shark who openly supported Chelsea for many years. The whole package is all a bit project Leave for my tastes, promise the world and deliver disaster.
Why is he the best option?With the glazers it'll be the highest bid available that wins, also if it's from an oligarch or a state. Not sure Sir Jim can offer that much, but give it a go, Jim - you're the best option for us fans out there it seems
. The only owners not motivated by profit will be oil states and so with that in mind is Ratcliffe a better bet than any other investment group? The performance of Ineos with Nice, Lausanne and their other sporting interests would suggest he is at best incompetent and has a track record of not delivering on his promises.
Why is he good option? Because he is United fan? He doesn't even have enough money. He needs investors.With the glazers it'll be the highest bid available that wins, also if it's from an oligarch or a state. Not sure Sir Jim can offer that much, but give it a go, Jim - you're the best option for us fans out there it seems
You think he will buy the club from his own personal wealth? It won’t just be him. It would be a consortium with him at the head.