Well saidWhy do people, after it's constantly shown time after time to be rubbish, still talk about Smalling and Jones as if they are at a similar level?
Jones is an injury plagued wreck. Last season was arguably his best ever season for us and he still wasn't good enough.
Meanwhile Smalling has basically been relied on to be a one man defence for the last five years, constantly switching partner because they invariably get injured or simply get dropped for poor form. Not to mention also having to cover a fullback who regularly gets caught out of position and is absolutely terrible at playing the offside trap. The only time in his entire career here that he had a steady partner for an entire season, he ended up our players player of the year.
Best case scenario is that Smalling ends up as a squad player. Worst case scenario is selling Smalling and then having to rely on the other injury prone disasters as squad players. Pick one.
Edit: Actually, the worst case scenario is even worse if Smalling is leaving on a free so we don't even get a transfer fee for him.
You seriously think he's a Championship defender?Can't get excited about this. If we hadn't extended his contract he would have found his level back at Fulham, West Brom or Sunderland.
95% guarantee we won't sell jones, rojo, or bailly. Everyone's getting extensions, the supporters should get use to it. The club is an investment to make money, not win trophies. Cheaper to extend, than to buy.
Four years is it?, fecking hell. He should be kept for a couple of years maximum while we sell jones etc and get more quality in.
of course, its 4 year deal with a player option for 1 more for a 29 year old cb. Its a terrible contract, just as bad as Rooney's before his decline. He's going to be 34 when the contract expires, most cb decline sharply after 30.People are just venting they frustrations on these transactions which is to be expected at the moment.
Yeah, he'll be tough to shift. I assume it was to secure the clubs investment so he can't leave for nothing, as even his squad number has been demoted. No idea who would want him though, since he's rarely fit and when he is he's total nutter.Problem is Rojo signed a new contract recently.
This.Not got a big problem with this, but if they give Phil Jones a contract I will punch somebody.
I'll admit to being a bit glib but I honestly don't think he'd look out of place in the Championship.You seriously think he's a Championship defender?
He'd walk into every team outside of the top 6.
Whenever I hear a supporter lump these 2 together I know instantly that he can't analyse football. It's a handy screening mechanism in some ways.Why do people, after it's constantly shown time after time to be rubbish, still talk about Smalling and Jones as if they are at a similar level?
Jones is an injury plagued wreck. Last season was arguably his best ever season for us and he still wasn't good enough.
Meanwhile Smalling has basically been relied on to be a one man defence for the last five years, constantly switching partner because they invariably get injured or simply get dropped for poor form. Not to mention also having to cover a fullback who regularly gets caught out of position and is absolutely terrible at playing the offside trap. The only time in his entire career here that he had a steady partner for an entire season, he ended up our players player of the year.
Best case scenario is that Smalling ends up as a squad player. Worst case scenario is selling Smalling and then having to rely on the other injury prone disasters as squad players. Pick one.
Edit: Actually, the worst case scenario is even worse if Smalling is leaving on a free so we don't even get a transfer fee for him.
It's a three year contract with an option (unknown whether it's a club option, player option, or both have to agree) of a further year. He'll be 32 when the original contract ends, 33 if the extra year is taken.of course, its 4 year deal with a player option for 1 more for a 29 year old cb. Its a terrible contract, just as bad as Rooney's before his decline. He's going to be 34 when the contract expires, most cb decline sharply after 30.
You should apply to be chief scout at the club. You will 100% get it and I'm not even jokingNice to see our twitter fans are clueless tits judging by those replies. He's a fine defender and should definitely be at least back up if we get better centrebacks.
The problem is that he isn't actually fit but he's likely going to play anyway since all the others are once again struggling with injury and form. It was fine against Arsenal and Fulham, but sooner or later our opposition are going to be able to take advantage of it and he'll take the blame. People are still talking about the match against Chelsea two years ago where he played with a broken toe and had his worst ever match.....hope this isn't the kiss of death for tomorrow's game if he's fit
Yes, and calamity Jones is good enough for England. Only England fans care about our players turning up for them. United first.Not good enough for England, somehow good enough for United.
How is Bailly better? He's ridiculously inconsistent, makes far more mistakes, and in his entire time that he's been here he's had a grand total of two good periods. The first was his first few months where he was our best, and the second was for about a month later in that same season (and Rojo was better than him at the time). Outside of those two periods, he's had as many terrible matches as he has good ones. There is a huge difference between being potentially our best (which he is) and actually being our best. Otherwise we'd be talking about David Luiz being one of the best defenders in the world, and he's far better than Bailly.I don’t understand you all who think Smalling is the best of our center backs. Bailly is undoubtedly a lot better than him in my opinion, and Lindelöf has been our best center back this season hasn’t he?
What utter nonsense. What you mean to say is "I do not care about England".Yes, and calamity Jones is good enough for England. Only England fans give a damn about England.
Yes, myself and many others who are not fans/followers/supporters of England, one of many who couldn't care less if United players get called up to play for the so called three lions.What utter nonsense. What you mean to say is "I do not care about England".
Well Calamity Jones is good enough for England.......Not good enough for England, somehow good enough for United.
Tell us how you really feel.Yes, myself and many others who are not fans/followers/supporters of England, one of many who couldn't care less if United players get called up to play for the so called three lions.
Thing is it may seem sensible now, but sign a top centre back in January (I'm taking it for granted that we will) then if we want to sign another in the summer (we should) Chris Smalling sitting on a 4 year contract with his big wages starts to look a problem.No point in not extending contracts of saleable assets like Smalling.
He's our best defender, and totally mediocre, but he'd be quite an easy player to sell to another Prem club.
It's extending the contracts of Young or Valencia or Matic that are more reason to groan. Even Lukaku needs to be kept in contract until a thick-as-pig-shit rich club come in for him.