"So many managers have been sacked"...

[edcunited1878]

Cleverly was surrounded by fat Ando. They were the midfield till Cleverly got injured. Tevez and Ronaldo were not there for the last CL Final. Good managers make good players better. Why did RVP score all those goals for United under SAF? Because as the players tell now, they were told they would be dropped if they do not pass to RVP if he was in a better position. And SAF would have dropped them. We see the selfishness of the players now and our manager sits there day after day looking at his ipad.

Haha. Cleverley and Ando were actually really decent before Cleverley got hacked down and was injured and before Ando kept eating poorly. That is to say, United still have reliable, high quality players to get their results. They performed a tidy and safe, but quick and disciplined role in title contending teams just like Henderson does at Liverpool.

Rooney, Berbatov, Giggs, Carrick, etc. I'm missing loads of players but you get the jist....and the most formidable defensive 5 in the club's history one can say. And United played to their strengths and it evolved, but shit was class and it worked.

Even without RVP, the team was good "enough" to only lose the title on GD the previous year. SAF would drop them for a good player...Rashford isn't going to be dropped for Dan James. Martial isn't going to be dropped for Ighalo. Greenwood isn't going to be dropped for Lingard or Mata, rotated at best. I feel like Pogba should only be getting 30 minutes off the bench in PL matches behind DVB, but that's the managers call and seems like the only way Pogba can get into match fitness, but his brain and decision making is still quite the same under Ole as it was under Jose.

 

[Madridista2000]

And that would have solved the problem?

For good or worse RM is not a place where you give the manager time.
Will sacking help solve the problems? I don't believe that. If you keep sacking managers that means the people hiring managers in the first place is making a mistake. You need to look at other problems in the team as well.
This is just the culture at Madrid. There is not much patience when things does not go to plan.

 

[eltigreFalcao]

The only one of the clubs mentioned in the OP worth making an example of is Bayern and that's mainly because their foundations are sustained by competent people on different sporting and non sporting departments that ensure the continuity needed to achieve greater heights. Our only hope for that was always getting a manager that actually thinks he can be a foundation himself, something we couldn't and wont find out there in the market. There's no changing managers if everything else remains the same. Rebuilding this club meant we needed to go slow at some point and we have just started. Is Ole the best manager imo? no, he is't but I believe is better to back him a little bit more. Anyways we're not hitting any lower than we actually are