BluesJr
Owns the moral low ground
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And that says a lot about this setup.Mount was obviously our primary midfield target
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And that says a lot about this setup.Mount was obviously our primary midfield target
How are we competing with Forest? He’d never consider them….I mean our number 1 CM we are competing with Forest. Maybe alarm bells should be ringing. But no!!
I'm just referring to the desperation from United supporters on here and social media. They're talking as though this guy will transform our team, when Fiorentina are practically begging for a buyer and our only competition is Nottingham Forest. I'm just highly sceptical of how good this guy actually is.Who thinks he’s prime Busquets, by the way?
Not a genuine midfielder though.Mount was obviously our primary midfield target
It says we didnt want someone who isnt even Fiorentina's best midfielderAnd that says a lot about this setup.
He’d play every week for those teams and be one of their best players.Forest and Galatasaray. That's his level.
He’s decent. We could do with “decent” right now.I'm just referring to the desperation from United supporters on here and social media. They're talking as though this guy will transform our team, when Fiorentina are practically begging for a buyer and our only competition is Nottingham Forest. I'm just highly sceptical of how good this guy actually is.
That has been going on for 10 years now.We are humiliating ourselves in public.
Well we clearly do want him so not sure that’s the best reply.It says we didnt want someone who isnt even Fiorentina's best midfielder
Decent is better than incompetent which is what our midfield literally always is.He’s decent. We could do with “decent” right now.
That's good but what happens when all of those players return? Do we bench £70m Mount? Does Mainoo go back to the U21s? Early retirement for Eriksen or Casemiro? Like you said, McTominay barely features, wait until we add Mainoo and Amrabat back in to the mixWe've sold Fred, we're doing everything to get rid of Donny, Mainoo is injured, Mount is injured and McT doesn't seem to be a go to since he got on the pitch in minute 88 vs Wolves, minute 85 vs Nottingham and didn't get to play vs Spurs...
Besides Amrabat we've only been linked to Höjbjerg and we all know what Levy will do if we come asking this late in the window. Unless we're really going for him (Amrabat) in one way or the other, what's the options?
Hoping that Eriksen and Casemiro can play every game and McT can get some minutes if we somehow manage to kill a game early on (we all know that's not something we're good at)?
Giving Hannibal some game time, is he really up for it?
I can't see any other scenario than us really going for Amrabat in one way or the other
This guy was one of the stars of the World cup and in the best xi from the tournament. shaking my headForest and Galatasaray. That's his level.
Now now, stop kink shamingWe are humiliating ourselves in public.
So was Marcos Rojo.This guy was one of the stars of the World cup and in the best xi from the tournament. shaking my head
https://broadwaysportsmedia.com/2022-world-cup-best-xi/
What are you on about? Of course he’s Fiorentina’s best midfielder. What has he done to this poster - maybe he used to date someone close to you? You seem to have a real agenda against him for whatever reason.It says we didnt want someone who isnt even Fiorentina's best midfielder
Never judge players on the World Cup. Liverpool did that with Senegal in 2002 and look where that got them. There are always players that shine at the World Cup that continue to be average when it is all over. Look at the list of clubs this guy has played for....Utrecht, Feyenoord, Club Brugge, Hellas Verona, Fiorentina. At 27 years old I really doubt he has slipped through the net of big clubs and his talent gone unnoticed.This guy was one of the stars of the World cup and in the best xi from the tournament. shaking my head
https://broadwaysportsmedia.com/2022-world-cup-best-xi/
Napoli the same club who offered a loan deal?How are we competing with Forest? He’d never consider them….
It’s more like competing with Barcelona and Napoli…. And he’s chosen United already.
I think it’s been said enough. But there is a list an arm long of this not working. You could even look as close as Kleberson.This guy was one of the stars of the World cup and in the best xi from the tournament. shaking my head
https://broadwaysportsmedia.com/2022-world-cup-best-xi/
We’ll get this done surely now it’s so publicly out there.
There are also players with great WC that continue to be great, there are examples of both. This transfer, like any other, is a risk, we bought so many players on the back of good seasons that turned out crap here, so we can all just wait and see before dooming and glooming.Never judge players on the World Cup. Liverpool did that with Senegal in 2002 and look where that got them. There are always players that shine at the World Cup that continue to be average when it is all over. Look at the list of clubs this guy has played for....Utrecht, Feyenoord, Club Brugge, Hellas Verona, Fiorentina. At 27 years old I really doubt he has slipped through the net of big clubs and his talent gone unnoticed.
The bolded part is something no one ever mentions and makes me irrationally mad.Four obvious points spring to mind.
First, Chelsea generate a lot of money from selling players brought through their academy. The way FFP and amoritization works is that for accounting purposes you can spread the cost of the incoming signings over multiple years so you can spend up to 5 times what you make. That is a very simplistic take but essentially it works that way although at some point you will have to stop spending because of all the amoritized fees you are carrying.
Second, owners can inject capital into the club to help balance the books and Clearlake have done this. The Glazers on the other hand have never put one penny into Manchester United and never will.
Third, Chelsea had transfer losses of over 1 billion which were transferred to a holding company owned by Roman who then kindly forgave the lot when selling the club so the new owners inherited a team that was completely debt free, we are hamstrung by colossal debts that have cost us over 1 billion in interest payments.
Fourth and final, according to the likes of Simon Jordan Chelsea actually don't give a flying frak about FFP and have already budgeted for the inevitable fines which they will consider money well spent if it tilts competitive balance in their favour.
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Yeah I do get what you're saying, too early to tell and all that. I've just got a bad feeling we're loading the club up with deadwood again that would be useless to another manager.There are also players with great WC that continue to be great, there are examples of both. This transfer, like any other, is a risk, we bought so many players on the back of good seasons that turned out crap here, so we can all just wait and see before dooming and glooming.
We are humiliating ourselves in public.
Rotation... I'm not saying two players are gonna play 95 minutes of every game. But with all our injuries atm, that's what we're looking atThat's good but what happens when all of those players return? Do we bench £70m Mount? Does Mainoo go back to the U21s? Early retirement for Eriksen or Casemiro? Like you said, McTominay barely features, wait until we add Mainoo and Amrabat back in to the mix
Come on now, this is Ten Hag we're talking about. You and I both know that at least 2 of these players won't see the light of day this season.Rotation... I'm not saying two players are gonna play 95 minutes of every game. But with all our injuries atm, that's what we're looking at
Managers can change and evolve, let's hope that is the case with ETH and his rotation of players.Come on now, this is Ten Hag we're talking about. You and I both know that at least 2 of these players won't see the light of day this season.
Come on now, this is Ten Hag we're talking about. You and I both know that at least 2 of these players won't see the light of day this season.
The desperation is for a good squad addition, one who is better than McT. Not desperate that we are missing out on prime Busquets as you put it.I'm just referring to the desperation from United supporters on here and social media. They're talking as though this guy will transform our team, when Fiorentina are practically begging for a buyer and our only competition is Nottingham Forest. I'm just highly sceptical of how good this guy actually is.
Nothing wrong with quality squad fillers. We really should be taking advantage of this market more often. Weghorst and Sabitzer loans allowed us to wait for Hojlund and Mount.The bolded part is something no one ever mentions and makes me irrationally mad.
Not to mention the debt part.
This tweet illustrates our problem. As long as the Glazers own us, we will not win a title. 100% sure of it.
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Rushing to spend the money they saved by not buying Dean Henderson.You have to admire the balls of Forest there
Instead they bought a worse keeper in Matt Turner and have just been snubbed by Amrabat.Rushing to spend the money they saved by not buying Dean Henderson.
We've just signed Mount for big money and McTominay has played about 5 minutes in 3 games so far. Honestly at this stage I'm convinced it's panic stations at Old Trafford after the start we've had and we're throwing enough shit at the wall that we hope something sticks. This is the approach that got us into the mess we are in, constantly trying to get rid of players that don't work out and were never good enough in the first place.The desperation is for a good squad addition, one who is better than McT. Not desperate that we are missing out on prime Busquets as you put it.
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This is off topic, so apologies.Nothing wrong with quality squad fillers. We really should be taking advantage of this market more often. Weghorst and Sabitzer loans allowed us to wait for Hojlund and Mount.