So the truth is even worse.
Indeed.
Didn't Moyes win The Charity Shield? I don't classify it as a trophy though Jose does.Funny the inacceracies in here since yesterday alone: "Only manager post-Fergie to get us CL 2 years on the bounce" and "got us to two cup finals". The mental gymnastics to paint his tenure in a positive light is one thing, but the blatant lies are fecking hilarious
The best post!Guys, it's all very simple!
Mourinho? The most successful.
Solskjær? The most entertaining.
Van Gaal? The best press conferences.
Moyes? The most Scottish.
Hotel? Trivago.
Now go on with your lives! Need I remind you that we have Ten Hag, Varane, Martinez, Casemiro, Eriksen and Bruno?
So excellent at making adjustments that we had threads predicting when he’ll finally make a fecking sub.
People are terrible at the eye test. Over Solskjaer's last 50 games in the PL his average first sub time was the earliest in the Premier League by like 40 seconds. People only watch Man Utd, we weren't doing well towards the end so we ended up with arbitrary, nonsense complaints that even briefly watching other teams would highly how terrible they are.
Just like the away record, if it was that easy more teams would have done it. It isn't.
I must have suffered brain-damage. The EL and what's the second final?
Ole fan boys make up shit to make him look better. What a shocker
To honor his purchase of the unholy trinity: Maguire, AWB, VdB. Erect his statue asap !!!
They love pulling out the 2nd placed trophy a lot. Ignoring the fact that it was the worst second placed finish in the league for some time and that 2nd place is also.. not an achievement.Ole fan boys make up shit to make him look better. What a shocker
Yeah, most years the point total we got for second would barely make top 4, but you’ve them making it out to be a massive achievement for playing against injury hit teams while we were relatively healthy.
That's one way to look and the other is we literally stopped focusing on league games and were playing europa semis and finals. Played Liverpool and Leicester at home within 48 hourz, played a full makeshift side against Leicester. Were playing in half asleep mode against Fulham at home and Leeds away.
The real context you need is that Liverpool and Chelsea were so bad that our real competition for most of the time was a Leicester side which had a smaller squad and they still kept it close till the last few games. We rested players not because we had to prioritise Europa, we rested players because top 4 was already achieved and winning Europa was the only way it could salvage a season where we did feck all in domestic cups and we were not in the title race at all.
They have.
Do you see a single cupset there though? There is nothing more embarassing than losing to a lower league team and Ole knows this and respects the fans by making it to the latter stages. People are just finding things to criticise him for now.
Great post mate.Guys, it's all very simple!
Mourinho? The most successful.
Solskjær? The most entertaining.
Van Gaal? The best press conferences.
Moyes? The most Scottish.
Hotel? Trivago.
Now go on with your lives! Need I remind you that we have Ten Hag, Varane, Martinez, Casemiro, Eriksen and Bruno?
5 defeats to 5 worse teams in cup knockouts, in a row. Serial bottler.
Each to their own. Personally I was asleep during most of Van Gaal's time here, but I remember the Liverpool games fondly!
Is this correct? I seem to remember them saying he had bad luck in cup draws but I didn't know they were calling the likes of Wolves and Sevilla bad luck. Did they expect KO cup games against non-league sides?
*face-palm* draws in earlier rounds when there are a load of dosh ...... at semifinal stage draws rarely even matter. And for Europa cup draws don't happen for semifinals and finals ....
If you don't know how reported speech works there are plenty learning resources on the internet. Ole's excusers blamed his cup losses on unlucky draws. This is clearly not talking about earlier rounds so nice try lying about statements we all clearly remember being said. Why would the topic of bad luck even come up if discussing wins from earlier rounds? One wouldn't need to come up with mitigating reasons for those. The excuses were always clearly referring to his late round losses.
So in your memory the "bad luck" excuse was referring to earlier round games he won rather than the games where, you know, he actually lost and the opponents were tougher? If you even sat down to think about it for a second you would have quickly realised that conversation would have made no sense. I'm for sure talking to someone with zero deductive reasoning. Move along.
Just because it makes sense in your head doesn't mean it actually makes sense.
He had "bad luck" in the sense we got drawn against City in back to back league cup semis, but I didn't include them because we weren't favourites and it's only the league cup.
Fantastic post. Thanks for that I truly laughed out loud. Trivago. That's fantastic.Guys, it's all very simple!
Mourinho? The most successful.
Solskjær? The most entertaining.
Van Gaal? The best press conferences.
Moyes? The most Scottish.
Hotel? Trivago.
Now go on with your lives! Need I remind you that we have Ten Hag, Varane, Martinez, Casemiro, Eriksen and Bruno?
Proper answer from someone with a clue. Thanks by the way.
Mourinho did that too
Don’t count apparently. You have to do it by finishing top 4 twice.
Oh yes, top 4 trophy beats actual (European) trophy. Silly me
Clearly finishing 3rd with 66 points is a much better and more enjoyable way into the Champions League than winning a European trophy. (we only finished on 69 points that season and won another shitty cup for what it’s worth).
Are the any factual wrongs? I mean, one could undermine the best away record, the goals or Man City wins to one’s agenda. But the stats don’t lie, do they? What your subjective take on it really don’t count.Funny the inacceracies in here since yesterday alone: "Only manager post-Fergie to get us CL 2 years on the bounce" and "got us to two cup finals". The mental gymnastics to paint his tenure in a positive light is one thing, but the blatant lies are fecking hilarious
It's factually wrong. Jose got us into two CL tournaments back to back.
No cup sets though. Ole deserves credit for that. Not one of those results was a shock loss. He respect the fan.
Erm, yes
