Sony hack and the movie The Interview

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I guess the ball is in Dennis Rodman's court.
Dennis Rodman was, is and will always be a cnut in my book. He can shove his "friendship" with the fat walrus up his ass.

This isn't going to end well for NK. They think they can be this little runt of country, going around throwing out idle threats, knowing their big brother China has their back. But not anymore. China's economy cannot afford the stupidity of North Korea, they're slowly backing off from them and rightly so. Yeah, USA is indebted to China in the TRILLIONS. But that means fcuk all when a country of 1 billion goes belly up and they have no western trade partners.

Went off on a tangent there. My point being, North Korea is that little cnut who thinks he's hard yet has soon as you go head to head with him, he backs off, tail between his legs knowing everyone in the class thinks he's a cnut.
Yeah and someday, the little cnut should get one hell of a beating that he and even his ancestors will feel it in their bones. This is the kind of cnut against who a head-to-head is not enough, but a severe beating is.

In the current situation, Obama should give a green light to the US Cyber Command in Fort Meade to hack into the NK utility grids, controlling water, electricity, transportation and even the nuclear plants. If the North Koreans want to see a threat, they should taste it through someone from outside making the threats after taking control of their nuclear plants and standing on click away of doing whatever he wants with the plants.
 

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I'm excited to see USA respond, but what can they do realistically? Genuine question.
Considering that worked out when Stuxnet was dug inside the software that was sent for Iranian nuclear program in 2007, nothing's impossible. If it was for me, the US should try hacking into North Korea's utilities and even their nuclear plants. Blackmail them with the threat of provoking massive chaos in Pyongyang.

Push for further sanctions is all they will do.
That shortsighted if they do. Things will only work if it hurts the NK people immediately. <_<
 

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Considering that worked out when Stuxnet was dug inside the software that was sent for Iranian nuclear program in 2007, nothing's impossible. If it was for me, the US should try hacking into North Korea's utilities and even their nuclear plants. Blackmail them with the threat of provoking massive chaos in Pyongyang.

That shortsighted if they do. Things will only work if it hurts the NK people immediately. <_<
It is the only real overt option they have. If they plan to hack North Korea back it won't be any time within the next 2 years (too obvious) and we won't hear about it anytime soon.
 
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Considering that worked out when Stuxnet was dug inside the software that was sent for Iranian nuclear program in 2007, nothing's impossible. If it was for me, the US should try hacking into North Korea's utilities and even their nuclear plants. Blackmail them with the threat of provoking massive chaos in Pyongyang.



That shortsighted if they do. Things will only work if it hurts the NK people immediately. <_<
The main problem is that North Korea is basically a closed network, both digitally and physically. Iran is significantly more connected than North Korea so cyberwarfare is a lot easier.

North Korea probably also spends much more money on cyberwarfare per capita than most, if not all, countries in the world. It's a form of asymmetric warfare and one of the few ways it can fight the US on a more even footing.

North Korea's cyberwarfare is basically like China's but significantly more difficult to attack.
 

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Considering that worked out when Stuxnet was dug inside the software that was sent for Iranian nuclear program in 2007, nothing's impossible. If it was for me, the US should try hacking into North Korea's utilities and even their nuclear plants. Blackmail them with the threat of provoking massive chaos in Pyongyang.



That shortsighted if they do. Things will only work if it hurts the NK people immediately. <_<
Madness. They can't threaten punishment against millions of innocent people over this. Any retaliation will have to be directed towards the perpetrators.
 

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Lets start a Caf led pointless gesture on Twitter and facebook. I posted "I'm so Ronery" publicly on my FB profile and asked everyone to share it.

So North Korea are hacking the idiots at Sony and have managed to get the film The Interview withdrawn. I for one don't want someone else's lunatic dictator telling me what I can and can't watch even of it was probably going to be rubbish, so I'm going to post a Team America clip (from a legal source) and urge everyone to share it (and make it public) as a miniscule and futile 2 fingers up gesture.


And Tweeted

North Korea can't tell me what crap comedy to watch. Share this clip to annoy them. http://bit.ly/1iowjn9 #NorthKoreaSucks

That will bring them to their knees ;)
 

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Went off on a tangent there. My point being, North Korea is that little cnut who thinks he's hard yet has soon as you go head to head with him, he backs off, tail between his legs knowing everyone in the class thinks he's a cnut.
So basically North Korea is Jack Wilshire
 

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It is the only real overt option they have. If they plan to hack North Korea back it won't be any time within the next 2 years (too obvious) and we won't hear about it anytime soon.
Considering that North Korea have attacked both South Korea and the US with cybertattacks, I don't see the point of waiting instead of dropping the hammer right on them. Who would dare blaming the US for making that "little cnut" (borrowing the previous analogy) taste his own medicine? From what I have seen in my days as a kid in school, little wannabe hard boys often end up getting thrashed by the real top dog.

So basically North Korea is Jack Wilshire
That's another guy who deserves a genuine kicking. (End of off-topic)

Posted Wibble's video on FB and Twitter as well. Hoping it will get viral. :)
 

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Considering that North Korea have attacked both South Korea and the US with cybertattacks, I don't see the point of waiting instead of dropping the hammer right on them. Who would dare blaming the US for making that "little cnut" (borrowing the previous analogy) taste his own medicine? From what I have seen in my days as a kid in school, little wannabe hard boys often end up getting thrashed by the real top dog.



That's another guy who deserves a genuine kicking. (End of off-topic)

Posted Wibble's video on FB and Twitter as well. Hoping it will get viral. :)
You're not really comparing this to your days at school are you?
 

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You never know. It could be hilarious if a Caf instigated campaign went viral.

I have high hopes for the #NorthKoreaSucks hashtag. Political comment at its finest ;)
 

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Er... Yeah so I'm guessing you don't live in Seoul then.
I'm aware of that situation, but can Seoul afford to live in that climate of fear any longer? Also I don't see why South Korean cyber-warfare divisions cannot launch anything of their own to disrupt something big on the other side. It's not as if South Korea don't have the resources to fight and make a big hit in this kind of warfare.
 

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South Korea don't want to push North Korea into a violent confrontation and NC aren't very vulnerable to hacking as they aren't connected to the outside world much.
 

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Has there been any word yet on what action is likely to be taken?


While the hacking itself is somewhat trivial when you compare it to other stuff going on in the world right now, America won't see it as such. In simple terms their citizens privacy was illegally undermind and they will be treating it as serious as such.

What is very serious however is North Korea making threats of terrorism on US soil. Thats incredibly serious and the 9/11 references are completely unacceptable.

It'll be very interesting to see how America respond to that.
 

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It seems misguided to make a movie based on the assassination of a living person/leader that has the potential to offend an entire nation and an unpredictable one at that. They could just as easily have made the movie about a fictional country loosely based on something real. Did they really have to kill him in a huge fireball? It was designed from the start to provoke a response.

Thank you Canada for "giving" us Seth Rogen, now we have our national security threatened to protect his useless movie.
 

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Considering how Saddam Hussein was parodied and killed several times in fiction (especially that one time with a piano on his head :lol:) while Iraq was yet able to keep it frosty, it just shows how North Korea are just too mentally retarded and incapable to understanding humor in any form.
 

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This is a tough one because you simply cannot attack North Korea or harm the people anymore than they are already being harmed by their own leader. It's the regime that needs attacking not the people. Any retaliation would have to be aimed directly at KJU and his regime, and that of course limits the responses available.

Massive airdrops of food, medicine, information about the North Korean regime, and information about the outside world would be far more beneficial than more tit for tat hacking. Either that or send Rodman in with a "body bomb" and detonate when he's sat chilling with the Supreme Leader in a buy one get one free type deal.

Saddam Hussein in bed with the Devil and being his bitch in The South Park Movie is way more offensive than anything thrown at KJU or KJI. Obama's speech could actually now open the floodgates for all out mockery of KJU on a grand scale.
 

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Considering that North Korea have attacked both South Korea and the US with cybertattacks, I don't see the point of waiting instead of dropping the hammer right on them. Who would dare blaming the US for making that "little cnut" (borrowing the previous analogy) taste his own medicine? From what I have seen in my days as a kid in school, little wannabe hard boys often end up getting thrashed by the real top dog.
I think if you are expecting much more than sanctions you are kidding yourself. America already has its hands full with oversees military support/action and no Western country can be seen to be openly hacking another state (even though they all have covertly).
 

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Most forms of retaliation would look a bit schoolyard-ish wouldn't it?
At the same time they shouldn't really let themselves be bullied and shown up, as well as threats to their people be made.
 

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Most forms of retaliation would look a bit schoolyard-ish wouldn't it?
At the same time they shouldn't really let themselves be bullied and shown up, as well as threats to their people be made.
The CIA should set every computer in N Korea to meatspin.
 

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That just shows the hypocrisy from the Republicans and their supporters. Although not surprising as they often call for video games to be banned, rap music to be banned etc, usually when defending the sale and availability of guns.

Most forms of retaliation would look a bit schoolyard-ish wouldn't it?
At the same time they shouldn't really let themselves be bullied and shown up, as well as threats to their people be made.
It's a tough one and a bit of a lose/lose for Obama/America. He can't retaliate with force, silly and completely over the top reaction. He can't hack them back (although they are always doing it covertly) as it's tit for tat and childish, not to mention illegal. More sanctions will only hit the poor suffering people. It's quite hard to see what can actually be done. I think the best option would be to make a film ridiculing The Supreme Leader KJU and mocking his way of life whilst pointing out how his people live.
 

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Explain me that. What would go wrong if that happens while China and North Korea are not shy about it?
If you asked China whether they have ever done it, their answer would be no. No state that is respected on the world stage will ever admit to doing something that is counter trust and illegal (look at America's stance on bugging the Heads of State of their foreign allies) as at the very least it would further legitimize all of those hackers who have been prosecuted for hacking into American intelligence agencies files (although they all know the truth and hypocrisy behind it already).

To openly admit to doing such a thing would open all sorts of doors that have yet to be opened in terms of this kind of illegal and covert activity. Even North Korea with their soiled reputation on the world stage have not and will not openly admit to the hack. When asked previously they denied it but called it "a Righteous deed".
 

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This is very entertaining, all that is missing is a statement from Weaste.

5 stars, comedy of the year, serious business indeed.
 

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It seems misguided to make a movie based on the assassination of a living person/leader that has the potential to offend an entire nation and an unpredictable one at that. They could just as easily have made the movie about a fictional country loosely based on something real. Did they really have to kill him in a huge fireball? It was designed from the start to provoke a response.

Thank you Canada for "giving" us Seth Rogen, now we have our national security threatened to protect his useless movie.
Its amazing misguided. Imagine a rupublican backed company making a movie about killing Obama. Or a German company making a film about killing the Israeli leader.

Very silly
 

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That just shows the hypocrisy from the Republicans and their supporters. Although not surprising as they often call for video games to be banned, rap music to be banned etc, usually when defending the sale and availability of guns.
The Second Amendment to the US Constitution protects the right of citizens to 'keep and bear arms'. It obviously has nothing to do with freedom of speech.

Almost all countries practice selective censorship of the media and public culture in general. Although, for instance, some of the more liberal Nordic countries permitted the legal sale of child pornography in the recent past. In any case, there's nothing precedential or inherently outrageous about Republicans asking for controls on music videos, lyrics etc.
 

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That just shows the hypocrisy from the Republicans and their supporters. Although not surprising as they often call for video games to be banned, rap music to be banned etc, usually when defending the sale and availability of guns.



It's a tough one and a bit of a lose/lose for Obama/America. He can't retaliate with force, silly and completely over the top reaction. He can't hack them back (although they are always doing it covertly) as it's tit for tat and childish, not to mention illegal. More sanctions will only hit the poor suffering people. It's quite hard to see what can actually be done. I think the best option would be to make a film ridiculing The Supreme Leader KJU and mocking his way of life whilst pointing out how his people live.
And if they have a movie showing a sniper killing Obama you think the democrats would be quiet? We are talking about a comedy about the worst dictator since Hitler.
 

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And if they have a movie showing a sniper killing Obama you think the democrats would be quiet? We are talking about a comedy about the worst dictator since Hitler.
What's he done so far to indicate that? He's a horrible, evil dictator but he doesn't compare to your Mao Zedongs, Pots and a few others in terms of being the worst dictator since Hitler. Unless of course by worst you mean he's utterly useless, in which case I'd agree.