i don't entirely blame bart but - does he communicate well with the guys in front of him? i don't think so!
Sporting Lisbon 3-1 United.....06/08/03.....FR
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Originally posted by DLE:
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Did you decide before the match that Barthez sucks? Did you watch the whole match hoping he'd feck up?
Barthez was good tonight..not his fault.</strong><hr></blockquote>
it's true!
djemba and bellion are not players for manchester <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />
Originally posted by pipeau:
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no but i'm happy
with this game and the fact that quaresma don't go to man utd, it s a proof for the arrogant fans who thougt that sporting will be a feeder club for manchester</strong><hr></blockquote>
We will get Ronaldo tough
feck you all !!!
I didn't watch the match, but would it be fair to say that we lacked creativity in midfield?
And this on the day we sell Veron to Chelsea - and they have just agreed a fee with Inter for Vieri.
And this on the day we sell Veron to Chelsea - and they have just agreed a fee with Inter for Vieri.
no i think bart is ok not great and will not be our #1 for very much longer. he saved MUFC's arse in many matchs last yr. , but gave up too many softies. i do not gain confidence w/ bart in the net anymore.
Originally posted by Nico:
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We will get Ronaldo tough
liverpool and juventus offered 7 millions euros for him..and tonight rosel and beguiristein were on the stadium..it will be difficult for manchester!
i hope that queiros has his eyes open
Are Sporting in the CL? Because I damn sure want them twice in group play with Howard, Giggs, RVN, etc playing. Maybe even Joaquin or Aimar by then too...and Trabelsi (sounds like it might be a done deal). Then we'll show these fools what real football is about. Has to be tough to take an 8 hour flight and expect to perform at 100% on basically one day rest.
Thanks for nothing
Originally posted by pipeau:
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liverpool and juventus offered 7 millions euros for him..and tonight rosel and beguiristein were on the stadium..it will be difficult for manchester!
i hope that queiros has his eyes open
Looked like one who likes to do things on his own. Not keen to pass the ball unless nothing else to do in the position..maybe I'm wrong.
Originally posted by MrMarcello:
<strong>Are Porto in the CL? Because I damn sure want them twice in group play with Howard, Giggs, RVN, etc playing. Maybe even Joaquin or Aimar by then too...and Trabelsi (sounds like it might be a done deal). Then we'll show these fools what real football is about. Has to be tough to take an 8 hour flight and expect to perform at 100% on basically one day rest.</strong><hr></blockquote>
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sporting is real shit compared with fc porto!
porto made a show in parc des princes
psg-porto 0-2
and made a show in riazor
depor-porto 0-2
ok common
Originally posted by DLE:
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Looked like one who likes to do things on his own. Not keen to pass the ball unless nothing else to do in the position..maybe I'm wrong.</strong><hr></blockquote>
the guy is 18!!!
let him play
Pipeau ,are ya Portuguese?
seems like the team is still in the US, i can't remember any match where we had less ball possession than this one.
Originally posted by laura:
<strong>Pipeau ,are ya Portuguese?</strong><hr></blockquote>
yeah i'm french-portuguese-spanich
i born and live in paris, my father is portuguese and my mother spanich
Originally posted by pipeau:
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the guy is 18!!!
let him play
Ok..
Originally posted by pipeau:
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yeah i'm french-portuguese-spanich
i born and live in paris, my father is portuguese and my mother spanich
what a mix!
I think people are taking the score of this game too seriously.
We fielded a weak team which was weaker due to major players being tired/jaded/hung over or whatever.
Sporting were more than up for it, because this is their first game in the new stadium, you don't want to lose that.
This game seems a bit unnecessary but I guess we had to play it due to our relationship (?) with Sporting, whatever strage link we got with them.
So basically, wait until after sunday with the doom and gloom.
We fielded a weak team which was weaker due to major players being tired/jaded/hung over or whatever.
Sporting were more than up for it, because this is their first game in the new stadium, you don't want to lose that.
This game seems a bit unnecessary but I guess we had to play it due to our relationship (?) with Sporting, whatever strage link we got with them.
So basically, wait until after sunday with the doom and gloom.
Well that was not a good game the end. Still rather they got that game out of the way and be fresh for Cardiff on sunday.
i think manchester'players don't like playing with 35°
Bit of a crap game really. Sporting played well but we were crap, looked tired and phased IMO.
Highlight of the game was Djembax2. He really looked the part. Whether this is because the rest of the midfield was so far behind the game, or whether he is world class, remains to be seen. But so far, so good.
Another good, solid game by Fortune too. Him and Djemba put in some hard tackles in the game. Nice to see.
Other than that, Ole, Scholes, Butt, JOS, Rio all looked like they were tired. Should be a different story on Sunday though.
Best team won.
Highlight of the game was Djembax2. He really looked the part. Whether this is because the rest of the midfield was so far behind the game, or whether he is world class, remains to be seen. But so far, so good.
Another good, solid game by Fortune too. Him and Djemba put in some hard tackles in the game. Nice to see.
Other than that, Ole, Scholes, Butt, JOS, Rio all looked like they were tired. Should be a different story on Sunday though.
Best team won.
Originally posted by Dervish:
<strong>Bit of a crap game really. Sporting played well but we were crap, looked tired and phased IMO.
Highlight of the game was Djembax2. He really looked the part. Whether this is because the rest of the midfield was so far behind the game, or whether he is world class, remains to be seen. But so far, so good.
Another good, solid game by Fortune too. Him and Djemba put in some hard tackles in the game. Nice to see.
Other than that, Ole, Scholes, Butt, JOS, Rio all looked like they were tired. Should be a different story on Sunday though.
Best team won.</strong><hr></blockquote>
fortune, a good game
we don't saw the same match!
he was constantly passed by luis filipe..who even scored the first <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
Originally posted by pipeau:
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fortune, a good game
we don't saw the same match!
he was constantly passed by luis filipe..who even scored the first
Fortune had another solid performance at Left Back. Fillipe got passed him once or twice but for the most part he was a commanding presence. Especially when he moved into Midfield. Fortune didnt keep Fillipe in his back pocket like he did with Quaresma the other night but he was still effective. The first goal was hardly Fortune's fault as Ole's original slip allowed for a teasing cross. If anyone had connected with it, it would be in the back of the net. United player or not.
Cant please everyone, cant please frenchie ABUs
Originally posted by redmad:
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Espirito Santo means 'Holy Spirit' as in Christianity.....strange name for a Bank! take your word for it I suppose...</strong><hr></blockquote>
before the match, a priest bless the stadium in front of first minister and president of portugal
Originally posted by pipeau:
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before the match, a priest bless the stadium in front of first minister and president of portugal
god was "sportingista" tonight <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
Originally posted by pipeau:
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fortune, a good game
we don't saw the same match!
he was constantly passed by luis filipe..who even scored the first
pipeau, you don't seem to get it. Fortune is a "solid player", "class", etc. With Veron and Blanc gone, the only player you can slag is Barthez. Doesn't matter if you think that Fortune couldn't start for Udinese, nobody's interested.
This has got to be up there with the worst matchday threads ever.
Don't care about the result since it was an experimental team and Jet lag cleqrly played its part - but I thought there were a few things to note:
Barthez was poor - somewhat mentally detached - I think he will be dissapointed with the 3rd goal and had a howler that was cleared by Lynch late on. My bet is that Howard won a 1st team place today.
Fortune is not a credible Left back - not his fault but let's stop playing him here- was much better when moved to midfield.
Bellion is VERY raw - no problem with this but doubt he will feature at all other than in Worthless cup games this year.
fletcher looks class - kid will breakthough this year. Richardson might - but it's not as clear that he reads the game well enough.
Ronaldo for Lisbon was great - now you understand why they were prepared to sell Queresma - this kid looked far more dangereous.
Barthez was poor - somewhat mentally detached - I think he will be dissapointed with the 3rd goal and had a howler that was cleared by Lynch late on. My bet is that Howard won a 1st team place today.
Fortune is not a credible Left back - not his fault but let's stop playing him here- was much better when moved to midfield.
Bellion is VERY raw - no problem with this but doubt he will feature at all other than in Worthless cup games this year.
fletcher looks class - kid will breakthough this year. Richardson might - but it's not as clear that he reads the game well enough.
Ronaldo for Lisbon was great - now you understand why they were prepared to sell Queresma - this kid looked far more dangereous.
I think United has found the new Andy Cole in Bellion - can't head, can't dribble, looks speedy but is not, has poor ball control, did not once beat his opponent in 8-9 attempts, falls over the ball too often, & can't pass! Can we return him to Sunderland?
But the United Blind Faith Brigade would see otherwise I'm sure.
As for the rest of the team, perhaps its fatigue but one thing's for sure - we don't have a strong squad anymore - Pugh & Bellion won't cut it. Richardson is another Chadders, & Fletcher needs to build up alot!
United sorely lacked the basic skill of passing & were run rings by Sporting who showed what confidence on the ball can do for a team - many times, there were 10-15 passes between them without a United player smelling the ball!
As for Barthez, I think his heart was not there last night, knowing he's not wanted at OT!
A consolation last night was the decent debut of Djemba2.
But the United Blind Faith Brigade would see otherwise I'm sure.
As for the rest of the team, perhaps its fatigue but one thing's for sure - we don't have a strong squad anymore - Pugh & Bellion won't cut it. Richardson is another Chadders, & Fletcher needs to build up alot!
United sorely lacked the basic skill of passing & were run rings by Sporting who showed what confidence on the ball can do for a team - many times, there were 10-15 passes between them without a United player smelling the ball!
As for Barthez, I think his heart was not there last night, knowing he's not wanted at OT!
A consolation last night was the decent debut of Djemba2.
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