This.I don’t really see a problem with it to be honest. It’s just being proactive trying to get an advantage for your team.
Going to a game is a bit different to sneaking into a training ground and hiding in a bush.feck me the media make such a shit storm out of nothing, are managers that go to opposition games there to *spy*? The same fecking papers
That but phones and back emails for stories, gutter trash.
Is it going to tell you any more really? If a team poaches a coach or manager from another team they will learn certain things. It’s a storm in a tea cup and quite *Frankly* Frank has made a tit out of him self, should have laughed it off and moved on. I watched most of the game and Derby were simply out played, would have happened, Bond or no Bond.Going to a game is a bit different to sneaking into a training ground and hiding in a bush.
Why do it if there's no benefit?Is it going to tell you any more really?
And every club subscribes to some service where they can probably see every match their opponents have played in the last decade. And they have one of their analyst cut up video of every time the opposing winger used their weaker foot if they wanted to.Whatever happened to analyzing opponent's games? Buy a few match tickets and watch your opposition from the stands or record the matches on TV.
Mind games, if you make another team believe they have an advantage they probably will. Given the deal Lampard made of it didn’t help, one training session, probably not hearing anything that is being said won’t tell you a great deal IMO. Given that Belisa seemed to enjoy owning up to it leads me to believe it was just a head feck.Why do it if there's no benefit?
Saudi Embassy style?Well said by Lampard I guess.
They should've just beaten the spy to a pulp and cut his fingers off to send the right message to Bielsa imo.
This all happened yesterday, Lampard said nothing about it until he was asked in an interview this evening. He said nothing about it until Bielsa came out and admitted it. Don't think it's fair to characterise that as making a big deal. It pissed him off and that came across in the interview.Mind games, if you make another team believe they have an advantage they probably will. Given the deal
Lampard made of it didn’t help, one training session, probably not hearing anything that is being said won’t tell you a great deal IMO.
No idea, I still think Lampard would have been better off laughing it off than coming out with *that shit shouldn’t wouldn’t happen in England*. I like Lampard and I want him to do well, Gerrard too but they are very green and need a bit more nouse, which they will get.This all happened yesterday, Lampard said nothing about it until he was asked in an interview this evening. He said nothing about it until Bielsa came out and admitted it. Don't think it's fair to characterise that as making a big deal. It pissed him off and that came across in the interview.
I don't think its the worst thing in the world by any means but they (I say they because of course it goes on more than we probably know) do it to find out about who is going to play and what sort of formation/set pieces they are working on, it's not just "mind games". The bloke was hiding in a bush, do you think he was trying to get caught?
If it is happening this is the first time in a while someone is getting caught.Are people seriously acting like this isn't something that happens in the country? Just like English players don't dive? Seriously?
Well said sir!Liverpool have appointed Neil Ruddock as security for their training sessions. He's told people he'll 'eat them' if he suspects anyone of spying. So there'll be no doubt whatsoever as to 'who ate all the spies'.
Right now, most of football is and has been for a while.Its unsportsmanlike in my opinion.
Doesn't mean it shouldn't be called out.Right now, most of football is and has been for a while.
Would not really surprise, or? There is so much money in football to win or lose!Doesn't mean it shouldn't be called out.
What's next? Bugs in dressing rooms? Tapping phones?
It happens pretty regularly. Villas-Boas famously did it when he was part of Mourinho's staff for example.I can't imagine Bielsa is the only manager ever to do this, anyone know of any other examples?